Sakyubasu no Tatakai I (Finished)

[EugineKrabs]

This is my favorite project so far. Well done!

[whatdontlookaatme]

Good game! Ive got some ideas for you!
1. The mistress rides the brutes dick at the of level 1( reasoning for this is the brutes cum isnt toxic to the zerglings cum if the brute doesnt cum inside of the mistresses vagina)

Yeah, the "Plot justification" for why the brute scene ousts the zergling birth scene is shakier than a house made of unbound feathers.

What im saying is that the mistress should somehow get the brutes dick in her vagina and have it cum inside her so the toxic cum destroys the zerglings cum that would result in impregnation. Just want it to be a little more realistic thats all, and im sure somevpeople would like to see her shove some of that giant dick up her

[SteelSaurus]

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It's funny. I was trying to make a worm like this for the Samus game.

[BlueLight]

game was uploaded on funnygame again, along with another one from this site


this is getting irritating.

Hell im happy it's up there. Can you imagine uploading a game that called you a douchebag?
Some one even made a comment about it.

Why are you guys all so pissed off about this? o_o. Is it because you feel like funny-games "stole" the game? Why do you feel like they "stole" it? If someone makes a good flash, and it's spread across the net, the author is renown. You're not making money anyway, so might as well be renown.

This is how I see it.
1. people will see the good game on funny-games or some other well-known website and know it is from LoK
2. people will visit LoK for more
3. people will register at LoK and constantly check back for more.
people won't look at funny-games's LoK uploads because they know it is outdated,

Before I go on, I would like to point out that I don't really care about funny-games. I just check it biweekly to see if any new games are released (most of them are horrible crap) and good games like this are a pleasant surprise. Now that I know you guys exist and have a ton of constantly updated games, I'm not going to be bored for a while.

I do not understand what the big problem is. They're not stealing... they say it is from LoK. I highly doubt this site can get more viewers if their games are entirely localized here. funny-games isn't taking your money or credit, or your "business." I joined this site today because the un-updated, slow as fck version of this game on funny-games impressed me and I wanted more. I would have never known LoK was making good games like this because the official page and the official version of the LoK are 99999 years old and have absolute no mention about other games like this. They should change the homepage. It took me forever to find this thread.

So my question is, why are you guys so pissed off? o_o

Do note you pissed me off and i sorta think your a idiot, it's that or someone that believe whatever someone tells them.

First off don't act like we're the same person as you. I want my money not fame and if no one going to pay then that's okay. notoriety only last so long as you use the same Username.
I might release a game for free but that doesn't mean i want people to steal and void MY RIGHT to the copyright. Sorry i misspoke there. It's not the copyright it's MY COPYRIGHT. As for not getting money hell i could sell the right to upload the game to these sites or upload it to my own site and have ads. Money right there.
You don't think people spend all this time making flash games because they find it fun? Some of them do it for the money.

This is how I see it.
1.I'm on LoK forums for the people. But In the end i'm out for my self but if i can help someone i am willing to do so.
2. Okay so what? I've already stated that im out for myself here. I don't care if the forum grows. I won't impede progress but no one has ask me to help by giving away my copyright to help.
3. Good for them.

{skips funny-games comment }

I do not understand what the big problem is. They're not stealing... they say it is from LoK.

put in Definition of stealing and you get this.
1. Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: "thieves stole her bicycle"; "she was found guilty of stealing from her employers"; "stolen goods".
2. Dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own.

Now take without permission or legal right sounds like what funnygames is doing. However the question we should ask before using that Definition can intellectual properties be stolen. Well yes and no. for that we'll try

put in to google definition copyright
Verb: Secure copyright for (such material).
Noun: The exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same.

Now while you can't physically steal data from a computer you can however steal information which goes under copyright infringement and data theft. Besides what your saying is like say i can steal a copy of any retail game legally which if you think about it sounds stupid as hell most likely because it is.

I highly doubt this site can get more viewers if their games are entirely localized here. funny-games isn't taking your money or credit, or your "business." I joined this site today because the un-updated, slow as fck version of this game on funny-games impressed me and I wanted more

True about the localized... so what?

Funny-Games is using copyrighted games that don't belong to them and they didn't ask to use to make money and i believe by law any money you make from some one elses copyright belongs to the copyright holder unless a contract is made. So in sense they are stealing and some one could take out a lawsuit on them for doing it. also why do i care if more people are lurking on the site stealing bandwidth, making my connection slower, and not even trying to give anything back?

* Twiddles thumbs*

Now ya i come off as a douchebag. I don't care. The whole statement was about how we couldn't make money and how it helps the site so it's okay. It's not okay.
While yes i act like money is the only thing i care about and that i couldn't care less about the site thats more or less what i felt when i say the post.
Look i love the games here and i would love to help them any one i can. Sure i wouldn't pay for them however that doesn't mean you can't make money. In fact you can make money with a flash game that has sexual content that doesn't have graphics and isn't even version one. What's that you don't believe me. Well you got me it's not like i have a link or something ----> CLICK ME! YOUR A WINNER, COLLECT NOW. CLICK ME! <----.

Now if i get the choice to say if i can make money off this or not. Doesn't matter if i will.
Next i get the choice to say if i'm going to try to make money off this.

If a company or website wants to host my game they can ask me in a PM or email and then i get the choice to tell them "no", "yes", "pay me", or "demo or nothing"
They can't choice for me and neither can you legally.

As for LoK i love it and i would gladly help out. If I had a flash game the admins ask me to summit a version of my game on the web or Funny-games then i would likely do it since it was my choice. I can't say for a hundred percent if i would do it since i don't have a flash game and i haven't been asked.

Next time your going to make a statement like that make sure theses two things. Every one can agree on your logic and you know what your talking about.
I know a bit of law and your argument was based on the fact that it wasn't illegal since it wasn't stealing. However this is wrong because of copyright and intellectual properties, maybe even under trade secret how ever i believe you have to legally own a company and I don't think anyone can really get a case though the courts about funny games stealling a trade secret. It's not like we're putting are games under lock and key.

[GoRepeat]

game was uploaded on funnygame again, along with another one from this site


this is getting irritating.

Hell im happy it's up there. Can you imagine uploading a game that called you a douchebag?
Some one even made a comment about it.

Why are you guys all so pissed off about this? o_o. Is it because you feel like funny-games "stole" the game? Why do you feel like they "stole" it? If someone makes a good flash, and it's spread across the net, the author is renown. You're not making money anyway, so might as well be renown.

This is how I see it.
1. people will see the good game on funny-games or some other well-known website and know it is from LoK
2. people will visit LoK for more
3. people will register at LoK and constantly check back for more.
people won't look at funny-games's LoK uploads because they know it is outdated,

Before I go on, I would like to point out that I don't really care about funny-games. I just check it biweekly to see if any new games are released (most of them are horrible crap) and good games like this are a pleasant surprise. Now that I know you guys exist and have a ton of constantly updated games, I'm not going to be bored for a while.

I do not understand what the big problem is. They're not stealing... they say it is from LoK. I highly doubt this site can get more viewers if their games are entirely localized here. funny-games isn't taking your money or credit, or your "business." I joined this site today because the un-updated, slow as fck version of this game on funny-games impressed me and I wanted more. I would have never known LoK was making good games like this because the official page and the official version of the LoK are 99999 years old and have absolute no mention about other games like this. They should change the homepage. It took me forever to find this thread.

So my question is, why are you guys so pissed off? o_o

I won't make as long of a post as Blue, but will summarize this way:

Funny-games makes ad revenue off our work. That revenue is not going towards the upkeep of LoKF. That is kind of bad... You are right, this is a free public game, and I made with that intention... I want it out there and enjoyed by as many as possible, but:

They upload old versions of demos/alphas submitted by anyone, even though it would take two seconds to check with the real author (they even reference the lok forums in the summary) and make profit off it. You really think it would have taken them long to come to lok forums and post asking if its ok in thread? How long did it take you?

Also, they disable links back to original websites/authors.

That = douchbaggary

Do I care, really? No. Half the stuff isn't mine to even get angry about!! Sprites done by lots of people, I just take and animate. Not my place to speak for them. Its a free porn game I am making for fun. But does all that mean that justify douchbaggary? Nope.

[origamitoast]

stuiped funny games ^^ they cant figure out the controls

[Blurry Creature]

Quite a good game! Very well done with flash , i might add! Looking forward to later versions, keep up the good work!

[BlueLight]

I won't make as long of a post as Blue, but will summarize this way:

I agree. Really pissed off people make the longest post.

[Lucky777]

Even if a person affiliated with Funny-games.biz or the other sites comes here with the sole intention of taking alpha versions of games without permission and displaying them for ad revenue, they take not one cent out of the game creator's pockets.

Rather the opposite, they let the creators and the site become known, increasing the number of people who can potentially ask for commissions if any one of the creators decides to take his pornographic business in that direction - though I admit, "commissions" featuring the LOK engine will be few and far between, or nonexistent. Even so, it is a spreading of renown, at no charge, which results in no financial harm to the creators of the content.

If the games had been made for money, and they were marketed for money, like, say Zone's work on HentaiKey, then annoyed authors would be expected to some degree: people who can get their work for free need not pay for it, and thus the author's revenue will be decreased.

These games are not made for profit, and they are uploaded to a public site where all may see them for no charge, and thus they are in an entirely different ballpark. In the game itself one can mention that they are betas and not finished products, since funny-games and company seem not to take the time to specify themselves.

Complaints are groundless.

[BlueLight]

Even if a person affiliated with Funny-games.biz or the other sites comes here with the sole intention of taking alpha versions of games without permission and displaying them for ad revenue, they take not one cent out of the game creator's pockets.

Your statement is void because i don't care if i'm making money or not.

Rather the opposite, they let the creators and the site become known, increasing the number of people who can potentially ask for commissions if any one of the creators decides to take his pornographic business in that direction - though I admit, "commissions" featuring the LOK engine will be few and far between, or nonexistent. Even so, it is a spreading of renown, at no charge, which results in no financial harm to the creators of the content.

Ya it is. I am releasing the game for free on a site with the URL http://legendofkrystal.com not anywhere else. Anywhere else has to pay me to upload the game so it is financial harming to the creators of the content.

If the games had been made for money, and they were marketed for money, like, say Zone's work on HentaiKey, then annoyed authors would be expected to some degree: people who can get their work for free need not pay for it, and thus their revenue will be decreased.

These games are not made for profit, and thus they are in an entirely different ballpark. In the game itself one can mention that they are betas and not finished products, since
funny-games and company seem not to take the time to specify themselves.

Doesn't matter really if they are or aren't beta's. They are still copyrighted to us.


It isn't a matter if it seems to harm us. it a matter of COPYRIGHT and taking the time to contact us would likely get a yes and a up to date version.

Let me state this for the few arguments

I don't care if i'm making money or not.
I'm on a site where they make porn games and review them. I am not partnered with the website nor have i been ask in anyway to help it get popular.
Getting people on the site isn't even on the bottom of my todo list.
I am making a game because i want to.
Funny-games is causing copyright infringement and that is illegal under international law. Not US or Europe laws how ever US and internal laws were pushed to go in a European style so they are basically the same any ways.

[Lucky777]

Your statement is void because i don't care if i'm making money or not.

It is not a matter of whether you care or not, even in the slightest. It is a matter of the measure of damages, which is to restore the wronged party to the position he would have been in if the wrong had not been committed. If the original position is that you make and can make no money from the creation, you are likely to be awarded nominal damages or NONE, and end up having to pay the other party's costs.

That is JUST the tortious measure of damages in common law jurisdictions, though, so 1) The measure might be different in the US specifically, and 2) The question of a specific fine or penalty imposed by a copyright statute is a separate question.

Ya it is. I am releasing the game for free on a site with the URL http://legendofkrystal.com not anywhere else. Anywhere else has to pay me to upload the game so it is financial harming to the creators of the content.

All right, that sounds like a legitimate argument to me. Since it's actually possible to have a sensible position on both sides of the question, one can't go any further without the caselaw and the statutes, which will hold the answers. I withdraw my statement that complaints are NECESSARILY groundless, though I still suspect that they are.

Doesn't matter really if they are or aren't beta's. They are still copyrighted to us.

I was addressing a separate complaint, namely that by holding out unfinished (and thus unpolished) betas as finished products (and thus as products that the authors are satisfied with, and consider polished), funny-games and others give the impression that the artists at LOK have terribly low quality standards for their finished products. I didn't make that perfectly clear though, so no shame in not knowing what I was getting at.

[GoRepeat]

It is not a matter of whether you care or not, even in the slightest. It is a matter of the measure of damages, which is to restore the wronged party to the position he would have been in if the wrong had not been committed. If the original position is that you make and can make no money from the creation, you are likely to be awarded nominal damages or NONE, and end up having to pay the other party's costs.

That is JUST the tortious measure of damages in common law jurisdictions, though, so 1) The measure might be different in the US specifically, and 2) The question of a specific fine or penalty imposed by a copyright statute is a separate question.

They are redistributing a free product for profit without license from the owner.

BUT ANYWAYS

I would appreciate it if this discussion continued outside this thread (you too BLUE)

[Lucky777]

I would appreciate it if this discussion continued outside this thread.

Won't say another word on the subject in the thread then : O

[whatdontlookaatme]

so hows the worm fight scene going?

[GoRepeat]

I am very impressed with what you've done, and very excited for what's to come. Good luck.

A quick question. Is the Soul Grid Thinggumy a "tree" that you have to fill out each layer of to get to the next, or can you just buy whatever whenever you've got the souls for it? I ask because the ultimate lust ability will give you lust souls, so unless you DON'T need all of them to get it...

It will be a tree; right now costs are high because stuff isnt fully implimented. Souls will be used for other things besides buying abilities, thats why you would still want lust souls even though your abilities are capped

I hate to seem like a leech, with this being my first comment, but I really like how this game is turning out.
If I may suggest, I think it would be freaking awesome if the dogs in the first part had a forced oral scene (mouthfucking, etc.) or even if you could devise a DP scene with the dogs or something. I wasn't able to get past the first mini boss of the second level (wtf do I do against him?) but the mini monster guys have a nice scene. Where's the gallery part of it at?

There will be more scenes for each enemy during the "polish" phase of game (read: later ). Will keep this in mind. With the revamp controls, I might start throwing more things at the player since game is much, much easier now.

Yeah, the "Plot justification" for why the brute scene ousts the zergling birth scene is shakier than a house made of unbound feathers.

not so much plot justification, as easy clue so people on boards could find - remember that is from my post not in game, I will be sure to make actual "plot justification" much less.... feathery?

It's funny. I was trying to make a worm like this for the Samus game.

You need to make more sprites because your work is great! Digfree just beat you on this one

so hows the worm fight scene going?

Good! But next update won't be for a while. I just moved and don't even have internet hooked up yet. Making these posts from my laptop tethered to my phone Still a lot of unpacking to do. Maybe next weekend, who knows.

[whatdontlookaatme]

As long as you will keep updating all of your fans will be happy

[panama]

I was enjoying very much the game, but I've gotten to the boss thing and I just can't defeat it.

It says the armor is too strong so I have to bring it's shields down by getting it to hurt itself, when it rears up to make the rock spikes happen I stand under it and then dodgebackward at the last second, this makes the rock spikes appear right under the creatures head but I don't see to be having any noticeable effect at all, is there some other trick to this or do you have to do it a huge number of times?

[whatdontlookaatme]

Will the next update include sound?

[BlueLight]

I would appreciate it if this discussion continued outside this thread (you too BLUE)

Yep i was going to make a new thread if some one replied but the post doesn't really have enough content to warnt it so i'm just going to let the dust settle... then stirke your thread when you least su... wait i should tell you my plan. Anyways let me read what's new that's been posted about the game.

[PatchPirate]

You could always sue... They're making money off of YOUR work. Ad revenue and all.

ANYWHOOZLE. I'm lovin the last update. Game feels LIGHTNING quick now. I don't have to give myself two seconds for the animations to finish up. Very nice.