A Bit Worried

[Xananos]

Technology has traditionally been marketed toward males, and most video games are not exactly designed to appeal to the "delicate female tastes", so awkward /b/tards (or an analogous group) decided that since the few females they knew hated the idea of spending their days on the internet or fragging insertentityhere, that must be an accurate cross section of the female population, and therefore there would be no females on the internet. Combined with the huge number of guys who pretend to be girls who really DO get found out, anon does deliver, after all, and the relatively masculine nature of most conversations on internet forums or imageboards (Porn, games, hentai, murder, mayhem, etc.), it was assumed and still is assumed that females do not use the internet for anything more than social networking sites and pictures of small mammals.

... I think.

[Sainiku]

Technology has traditionally been marketed toward males, and most video games are not exactly designed to appeal to the "delicate female tastes", so awkward /b/tards (or an analogous group) decided that since the few females they knew hated the idea of spending their days on the internet or fragging insertentityhere, that must be an accurate cross section of the female population, and therefore there would be no females on the internet. Combined with the huge number of guys who pretend to be girls who really DO get found out, anon does deliver, after all, and the relatively masculine nature of most conversations on internet forums or imageboards (Porn, games, hentai, murder, mayhem, etc.), it was assumed and still is assumed that females do not use the internet for anything more than social networking sites and pictures of small mammals.

... I think.

never thought about it like that.

But in this day-and-age, that idea needs to get phased out. My father runs his own business fixing up computers for other companies. He was sitting me at his commadore 64 when i was a baby, and letting me mash on the keyboard. Computers and gaming are in my blood, moreso then most boys i meet.

[Xananos]

You just said, in essence, that society needs to move on from its prejudices. That is not going to happen so easily. At least not until men can be househusbands, women can be paid equally as a worker, etc. etc.

Silly Sainiku. It ain't going to happen.

[Sainiku]

You just said, in essence, that society needs to move on from its prejudices. That is not going to happen so easily. At least not until men can be househusbands, women can be paid equally as a worker, etc. etc.

Silly Sainiku. It ain't going to happen.

A woman can dream. :3

[Surskit]

From what I've seen since I was 11, if you're age is <15 and you're a girl, you're probably roleplaying the entire time you're online. If you're 15-19 (+/-3 years), you're probably stuck on facebook waiting for that bubble to pop up saying someone gave you attention. Anything above that age doing otherwise is fair game, and anything below that age is a minority relative to the rest of the demographic.

Edit: Oh! Oh! My post went through without having to be approved. Happy Days~

[CmdrFenix83]

I knew a couple 'women' back in EQ that later admitted that they were actually guys and just preferred the way they were treated when everyone thought they were chicks. Most guys act differently in 'mixed company'. And some guys are so desperate that they'll start buying stuff for said 'female'.

I was in a raiding guild in EQ for many, many months. Had a friend there, a monk named Sohrob. He had begun flirting around with a 'woman' playing a Dark Elf Magician. Over the weeks they flirted more and more and got rather cozy. Eventually they were talking about a relationship. They found out they lived fairly close to each other and started getting more personal. One day the guy calls his soon-to-be girlfriend's dorm room and another guy answered. After a bit of confused conversation, it turned out that the guy answering the phone was the roommate, and that this 'woman' was actually a gay guy. Apparently this guy was good enough to even fake a feminine voice on the phone. Rob there was pretty devastated and hurt, considering he was quite enamored by this 'woman' that had been lying to him the whole time.

The stigma of "no girls on teh interwebs" isn't born out of some misogynistic desire. It's more of a way to keep easily manipulated guys from handing over everything they have to the first individual that claims to have a vagina. The general rule of thumb is: "Everyone on the internet is male until proven otherwise." If you don't like being treated equally as if you were a guy, then you have to look at those individuals that have caused the stigma.

[Ariel]

If you don't like being treated equally as if you were a guy, then you have to look at those individuals that have caused the stigma.

That is the problem people have, because the people who cause the stigma are all men and not women. Why should one group have a stigma against them because of something another group does on its own and is of no fault of their own. That is like saying all Christians eat babies until proven otherwise, because some Buddhists pretended to be Christians and they were eating babies.

Most women don't cause the problems, its the way men react to women that causes the problem so why should women be characterized negatively for something they have no control over? Misogyny is just a mask for insecurity.

I'm not saying you personally are misogynistic, but you have to understand why women are entitled to be offended by the way we are treated.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who is male or female in real life, people should be respected (or not) based on their actions and not their identity anyway.

Edit: I just realized it is a bit silly to be having these types of conversations here but oh well.

[Renara]

I dunno, I've always wondered a bit about the people that get involved like that in the first place. I mean I have friends on Second Life who are in these "relationships" but I've never understood what it is, I mean I consider people I chat to as friends but they're a completely different type of friend than those I go to the pub with locally, as I've never met them. I mean sure, I'd like to some day, but to me they never have (and simply can't) go beyond being people that I enjoy talking to or virtually hanging out with, it's never really been apparent to me how others can have real feelings without even seeing an image of the other person, a webcam feed or whatever.

Pretty much everyone lies on the internet, or acts completely differently to how they act in real life, so why are some people so willing to assume someone is telling the truth about their gender? I'm not suggesting anyone here has done so, but if someone tells me they're male or female online I'll think of them as such only because they either might be, or enjoy the persona they built, not because it really matters to be in any way.

[CmdrFenix83]

I follow the phrase myself. I just assume everyone is male(as it is in proper English). Does that really matter to you, or anyone? I'll treat you no different than I would anyone else. The only people I've encountered that have had a problem with the assumption are those that actually were trying to exploit the 'female' card in an MMO in an attempt to get free stuff.

As to the relationships, I've met no fewer than 3 couples that had met online, moved in together later, and have been happily married for years. In fact, 20% of all marriages in the US now are started online.

[prettypinkpwny]

Not off-topic at all, guys.

[Xananos]

What's a topic? <.< In other news, I want V0.3. I'm worried that I'll go mad before I get it. How'ssat?

[Sainiku]

I follow the phrase myself. I just assume everyone is male(as it is in proper English). Does that really matter to you, or anyone? I'll treat you no different than I would anyone else. The only people I've encountered that have had a problem with the assumption are those that actually were trying to exploit the 'female' card in an MMO in an attempt to get free stuff.

I mainly have a problem with people who point at me, calling me a liar. I want to be treated just like anyone else. But I often get asked "are you a girl" when i'm chatting in a game because of something i've said. Then they suddenly throw it back in my face, calling me a liar. :\

I fail to understand people like that. And even though i shouldn't care, it does bug me a bit. :\

[prettypinkpwny]

What's a topic? <.< In other news, I want V0.3. I'm worried that I'll go mad before I get it. How'ssat?

Well, the devs better hurry up before they lose a faithful fan to madness. I think I can manage to wait for it, trusting that the devs are working hard and diligently on the project. I'm sure that when they finally release it, v0.3 will be phenomenally epic, and that's the sort of mindset that's keeping me sane while waiting for the release.

[DemonFiren]

Oh, I do it with a slightly different method: Trying to get access to the dev forum until v0.3 is out, so the tension won't kill me, but desperation will.

(Joking, of course.)

[Renara]

Oh, I do it with a slightly different method: Trying to get access to the dev forum until v0.3 is out, so the tension won't kill me, but desperation will.

We do actually get an unusually high number of failed requests for topic numbers that don't exist (or are in the developer forums), as well as the URL for v0.2.swf but changed to v0.3.swf, as if tweaking URLs would get you access to such things

[DemonFiren]

I know, that's why I wrote the joke.

[Poob]

as well as the URL for v0.2.swf but changed to v0.3.swf

So much fail...

[magnusadder]

I mainly have a problem with people who point at me, calling me a liar. I want to be treated just like anyone else. But I often get asked "are you a girl" when i'm chatting in a game because of something i've said. Then they suddenly throw it back in my face, calling me a liar. :\

I fail to understand people like that. And even though i shouldn't care, it does bug me a bit. :\

in my experience most of those with friends most of those arguments end with the one calling you a liar demanding you prove it by showing your tits... which is his entire point of calling you a liar... i mean what straight guy doesn't want to see tits?

[Haldor]

Strange how i've never heard of a woman in a forum asking someone to prove that he's a man

[Mechanios]

I mainly have a problem with people who point at me, calling me a liar. I want to be treated just like anyone else. But I often get asked "are you a girl" when i'm chatting in a game because of something i've said. Then they suddenly throw it back in my face, calling me a liar. :\

I fail to understand people like that. And even though i shouldn't care, it does bug me a bit. :\

in my experience most of those with friends most of those arguments end with the one calling you a liar demanding you prove it by showing your tits... which is his entire point of calling you a liar... i mean what straight guy doesn't want to see tits?

The kind who is a gentleman. :p Tits are great and all, but pshaw. Either way, that's how the internet could be for anyone of the female kind. You will be ragged upon and (sometimes) put down because of a stupid meme or stereo-type. It's unfortunate, but that's how it works.