The Plan 2.0

Discussion about Legend of Krystal. For now this also includes any feature-requests or other ideas.

Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby MirceaKitsune » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:10 am

dndman997 Wrote:seems 0.3 will be much better and different then how LOK first started


Can't wait. Been long since 3.0 was announced though, so I'm not sure when it will happen.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby adalada » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 pm

somebody tell me if they're still working on it or gave up :|
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby georgeman23 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:11 pm

adalada Wrote:somebody tell me if they're still working on it or gave up :|



they are most certainly still working on it and if you had read around you would know that
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Renara » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:58 pm

Still trundling away ridiculously slowly as ever :)

I've been having a spate of computer troubles lately so I've managed to get a sum total of nothing done for the last three weeks or so, thanks to wireless networking issues, internet connection issues, and a computer… well not a crash exactly, it just decided I wasn't allow to work for more than 10 minutes before it'd seize up. Anyway, I'm mostly set-up again, but now I have paid work to catch up on, bah!

As ever I can't stress enough how much everybody's patience is appreciated, and in the mean time there are tons of creative folks plugging away on their own great games. LoK will get its update eventually :)
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Fenrakk101 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:38 pm

Renara Wrote:Still trundling away ridiculously slowly as ever :)

I've been having a spate of computer troubles lately so I've managed to get a sum total of nothing done for the last three weeks or so, thanks to wireless networking issues, internet connection issues, and a computer… well not a crash exactly, it just decided I wasn't allow to work for more than 10 minutes before it'd seize up. Anyway, I'm mostly set-up again, but now I have paid work to catch up on, bah!

As ever I can't stress enough how much everybody's patience is appreciated, and in the mean time there are tons of creative folks plugging away on their own great games. LoK will get its update eventually :)


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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby killj0y500 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:31 am

will you be adding the morality system to the game
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Renara » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:01 pm

killj0y500 Wrote:will you be adding the morality system to the game

To some degree, it depends exactly what you mean by a morality system. My preference for such a feature is toward simply having scene options or game-play abilities where possible that can let you have krystal be as slutty or reluctant as you like, not sure if I'd bother having it do anything beyond this though, but there's always the possibility of tracking how often the player errs towards the slutty or innocent options in order to trigger cosmetic differences.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Fenrakk101 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:40 pm

Renara Wrote:
killj0y500 Wrote:will you be adding the morality system to the game

To some degree, it depends exactly what you mean by a morality system. My preference for such a feature is toward simply having scene options or game-play abilities where possible that can let you have krystal be as slutty or reluctant as you like, not sure if I'd bother having it do anything beyond this though, but there's always the possibility of tracking how often the player errs towards the slutty or innocent options in order to trigger cosmetic differences.


Perhaps it could only change her walking animation, i.e. a "sluttier" Krystal will walk with her tongue hanging out in a dirt manner and a "reluctant" Kystal will attempt to cover her breasts and crotch with her hand as she walks?
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby MirceaKitsune » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:10 am

I'd rather suggest a mood system personally. Which could change her face expressions and such, based on what events she does. Given of course that she can find and do some things that make her happy :) Just my idea.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Renara » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:54 pm

MirceaKitsune Wrote:Given of course that she can find and do some things that make her happy :)

If you wanted to play a slutty Krystal, then surely everything that happens will make her happy? :D
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby MirceaKitsune » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:50 pm

Renara Wrote:
MirceaKitsune Wrote:Given of course that she can find and do some things that make her happy :)

If you wanted to play a slutty Krystal, then surely everything that happens will make her happy? :D


Yeah, that's the idea ^^ It would depend if she's enjoying it or not in given circumstances. Sometimes she might enjoy it, making her happy, at other times no, making her sad.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Inflectrum » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:21 am

Can't wait til the next version, though it looks like you guys are adding quite a bit per version. I have no experience or idea about flash programming, but to me, it sounds like your biting off a litle more then you can chew in each version. Id prefer, and id also assume most other people, small regular updates instead of large ones where we have no idea whats going on, but thats just my opinion. Your the developers, feel free to do what you want, its your game. ;)
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Renara » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:17 am

Inflectrum Wrote:it sounds like your biting off a litle more then you can chew in each version

Definitely :)
The aim is for v0.3 to be one big update from the point of view of the programming, graphics, and animation. After that we can hopefully move to small improvements on those, while mostly focusing on adding piece after piece of new content, until the whole thing is built. The aim is for v0.3 to be community oriented so more and more people can help out once all the foundation work is done, the problem is just that the foundation work has turned out to be huge, with rampant delays :)
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby titus_andronicus » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:58 am

Fenrakk101 Wrote:Perhaps it could only change her walking animation, i.e. a "sluttier" Krystal will walk with her tongue hanging out in a dirt manner and a "reluctant" Kystal will attempt to cover her breasts and crotch with her hand as she walks?

I really like that idea, I definitely think you should do that, that would be awesome.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby bed_intruder » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:30 am

titus_andronicus Wrote:I really like that idea, I definitely think you should do that, that would be awesome.

If done right, yea. But from most flash animations of tongues from side-view like in LoK it just looks awkward whenever anyone tries to animate them from this angle. Maybe something else like lightly blushing and a rape face type thing going on with the eyes.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby titus_andronicus » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:20 pm

Yeah I just meant the general slutty/non-slutty walk thing rather than the tongue hanging hanging out.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Untamed » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:52 am

How close are we to actually seeing a new release of LoK?

Be honest, because I'm getting quite tired of lurking the Creative Corner and seeing new threads that have no animated content (or any content at all) in them
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Ketsueki » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:10 am

The cold honest truth is; software is an both a science and an art. Engineering might be able to tell you about how long it should take to design something, but that's really just customizing an existing framework to some tolerances and checking that it will, in fact, perform as desired. Science and art, on the other hand, are about creating /new/ and /different/ things; this is more commonly called Research or Development. There's simply no good answer.

Though a heart beat every so often might be nice so those of us on the outside know things are still happening inside.
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby BlueLight » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:52 am

EDIT I have no idea what i'm saying for part of this. It seems i'm to tired to be post. So give me a minute to see if i can edit what i said to make sense.

Ketsueki Wrote:The cold honest truth is; software is an both a science and an art. Engineering might be able to tell you about how long it should take to design something, but that's really just customizing an existing framework to some tolerances and checking that it will, in fact, perform as desired. Science and art, on the other hand, are about creating /new/ and /different/ things; this is more commonly called Research or Development. There's simply no good answer.

Though a heart beat every so often might be nice so those of us on the outside know things are still happening inside.


True. And all your predictions go out the window if your programmers get hand cramps... xD

So heres something to try and will will warp every ones minds.
so if you have 2 rooms each with it's own computer and it's own programmer you get twice the amount of work done in theory. We'll just round it and say the same even though it depends on other factors the person. But in this case it's 2 clones.
however have another room with one computer and one keyboard and have 2 programmers in it and you've just increased your productivity more than both of the other programmers combined.
I believe this is called agile programming but i wouldn't bet my life on it.

Now I would love to hear why you(people of LOK forums) think this is true or false. Anybody?
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Re: The Plan 2.0

Postby Arvais » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:28 am

I was wondering Renara. I know your not sure when you'll be done, but certainly you have to have some sort of idea of idea of how long of a time frame you should defiantly be finished in. I'm just wanting to know do you believe this project will be finished within the next year or will it possibly be longer than that. Also I don't know if you would have the time for this, but without putting out an unfinished game or without revealing anything you don't want to reveal, could you possibly put out a list of all the changes and updates you've added to the game so far (new areas, types of new animations, characters added, game play ad-dons, etc). Then maybe a little about what kind of things you plan to add later. I would just like to know where the project stands a little better, not necessarily everything. I understand that this whole ordeal is a big challenge and takes a lot of effort and time even without the setbacks and delays, but I think everybody feels just a bit left in the dark and it gets frustrating even for the most patient of us. I don't want you to rushed or feel more pressed than you already probably do because that's how you start to really just want to stop doing anything. I'll be here even if it takes another 3 years (I hope it doesn't take that long! D:), because I'm thoroughly interested in this project. One way or another I support what your doing and look forward to whenever we get to see a release, cause god knows were all eager to see it...whenever it comes.
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