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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.1) (07/22/16)

Postby random Crow » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:08 pm

IxFa Wrote:I tried it in a clean save, that's where I found the shifting and disappearing rooms.
Only noticed madeline vanishing in the old save, but I might not have tested the tease animation


Okay, I got why Madeline disapears on tease animations. It happens in the right wing of the brothel (everything right from the elevators)
At some point I hit a few numbers on the keyboard by accident, or wanted to do something different in another part of the code, but instead I messed with hers.
Long story short: the y axis where madeline should be is 30. In the hotfix version it's 13030 :? Well, shit happens I guess.

The thing with the disappearing rooms: I can't find any mistake :/
Maybe I find it at pure random while coding other stuff for the next version.

I throw out a hotfix though, to get rid of the 'no madeline tease animation' bug, and the 'endless day' bug.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Jlokison » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:07 pm

Noticed a couple of things that kind of conflict with each other:

I know you fixed it so a client doesn't ask for open hair and pony tail at the same time, or long and short, or light and dark hair at the same time. I also know that the pony tail counts as long hair, however clients can ask for pony tail and short hair which contradict each other.

Now maybe I haven't searched the forest often enough but I only ever find plantgirls with short open purple hair, does the purple hair count as light or dark, I'm assuming it counts as exotic. My point is there dosn't seem to be much variety in the plantgirls at the moment. The reason I mention this is I get clients asking for plantgirls with long hair and/or pony tails, and light or dark hair, if they want plantgirls shouldn't their hair preferences be limited to what plantgirls offer?
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:41 am

Hey there,

Jlokison Wrote:however clients can ask for pony tail and short hair which contradict each other.

Thank you, I must have overlooked that one.

Jlokison Wrote:Now maybe I haven't searched the forest often enough but I only ever find plantgirls with short open purple hair, does the purple hair count as light or dark, I'm assuming it counts as exotic. My point is there dosn't seem to be much variety in the plantgirls at the moment. The reason I mention this is I get clients asking for plantgirls with long hair and/or pony tails, and light or dark hair, if they want plantgirls shouldn't their hair preferences be limited to what plantgirls offer?


Purple hair counts as exotic hair as well as for dark hair.
Dark hair: purple + blue --- Light hair: red + yellow --- Exotic hair: all variations

It seems like you just got no luck in finding a different one. There are 12 variation of the plantgirls in total.

(the yellow is a brighter color since release)
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby ElPresidente » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:12 pm

Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first avilable room.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby IxFa » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:43 pm

ElPresidente Wrote:Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned.

I like this idea, and I support it.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:14 am

ElPresidente Wrote:Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first avilable room.


Frankly said, I don't want to change big chunks of the code, because I want to develop further ahead. But since you already have IxFa as a follower I would like to hear in which way you would change the assignment in detail. The order of events. Maybe I can do something about it then.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Ungawa » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:20 am

random Crow Wrote:
ElPresidente Wrote:Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first avilable room.


Frankly said, I don't want to change big chunks of the code, because I want to develop further ahead. But since you already have IxFa as a follower I would like to hear in which way you would change the assignment in detail. The order of events. Maybe I can do something about it then.


How hard would it be for the girls to be on the right side of the screen for the day and available through a separate elevator set than the customers? In that way, the girls can go to assigned rooms along with the patron. Meanwhile, you could have the service wenches (maybe add a second one?) that work the bar also work to clean rooms with the girl after a service to compensate.

Just a spitball, but it's worth looking into to have this free up the girls...
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Justapuppet » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:40 am

Nice update; personally I far prefer non-human animals (humans ugleh) so I particularly like this update.

I did notice a few bugs though, although I got lazy about reporting them right away. It seems you already caught one or two of them, but I also noticed a couple others:

- After a while, my level of fame seemed to sortof weirdly taper out and stop being able to increase... or at least so it seemed. I did have a couple of private show rooms, but other than that, I feel like I was doing things pretty much the same way as before, and eventually once I got to "Well known" I couldn't get it any higher. Even though I was giving almost every client just what they wanted (with the exception of luxurious rooms I didn't have yet), I eventually gradually went back down to "unheard-of." Unless there was a balance change that made giving a client something they don't want much more punishing again, I believe this is a bug.

- This was a bug I noticed a while ago, but I thought you got rid of it because I never saw it in 1.3. But nonetheless, occasionally a plantgirl's "sitting" pose (when assigned to a room) will just fail to show up. In my testing this is always with specific plantgirls; those plantgirls will continue to have that missing pose each day, regardless of placement, and it also persisted even if closing and re-loading the game. Other plantgirls will appear fine though, and I believe this is somewhat rare. Other poses aside from the simple sitting on the bed appear to always be fine.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:34 am

Ungawa Wrote:
random Crow Wrote:
ElPresidente Wrote:Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first avilable room.


Frankly said, I don't want to change big chunks of the code, because I want to develop further ahead. But since you already have IxFa as a follower I would like to hear in which way you would change the assignment in detail. The order of events. Maybe I can do something about it then.


How hard would it be for the girls to be on the right side of the screen for the day and available through a separate elevator set than the customers? In that way, the girls can go to assigned rooms along with the patron. Meanwhile, you could have the service wenches (maybe add a second one?) that work the bar also work to clean rooms with the girl after a service to compensate.

Just a spitball, but it's worth looking into to have this free up the girls...

I get a lot of input here from you guys. Quite a while a ago I thought of similar things how to do the assignment thing and ended up with the current one. Back then different aspects hold me back to try something else, but I'm sure I am capable to make the whole assignment better. This would change quite a few things. But it won't happen in the next few versions though, since I first need to figure stuff out. In the mantime you can post your suggestions here; there will be no better time for this then now.

Justapuppet Wrote:- After a while, my level of fame seemed to sortof weirdly taper out and stop being able to increase... or at least so it seemed. I did have a couple of private show rooms, but other than that, I feel like I was doing things pretty much the same way as before, and eventually once I got to "Well known" I couldn't get it any higher. Even though I was giving almost every client just what they wanted (with the exception of luxurious rooms I didn't have yet), I eventually gradually went back down to "unheard-of." Unless there was a balance change that made giving a client something they don't want much more punishing again, I believe this is a bug.


The only thing where you can loose reputation is by dismissing a client and let his patience run out by waiting.
To get from "well known" to the next reputation level you currently need double the points.
You wen't back to "unheard-of"? While playing the game or after reloading it? Because this should actually be quit impossible :?
And no there weren't any balance changes lately.

Justapuppet Wrote:- This was a bug I noticed a while ago, but I thought you got rid of it because I never saw it in 1.3. But nonetheless, occasionally a plantgirl's "sitting" pose (when assigned to a room) will just fail to show up. In my testing this is always with specific plantgirls; those plantgirls will continue to have that missing pose each day, regardless of placement, and it also persisted even if closing and re-loading the game. Other plantgirls will appear fine though, and I believe this is somewhat rare. Other poses aside from the simple sitting on the bed appear to always be fine.


I found the bug. It happens with all the long purple haired plantgirls. I'm glad you noiced that and brought it to my attention. I'll changed it for the next update.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Ungawa » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:29 am

Am I missing something when I try to put a girl in the private room and she doesn't go at all?

Also, it seems that the "pause and customers keep coming" bug is still there even on the public version...
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:45 am

Hey Ungawa,

I've already fixed a bunch of bugs for the next version, but I'm not sure if these you mentioned belongs to them.

Ungawa Wrote:Am I missing something when I try to put a girl in the private room and she doesn't go at all?

Need more information:
Can you click the room (green frame around the private room), after clicking her assign?
If you could click the room, has she disappeared from the mansion but never showed up in the privateroom? Or is she still in her chamber?
Did this happen with all the girls or, for example, just with the slaves?

EDIT:
Oh, i just remembered: If you haven't a wolf, you can't choose the private show room since it only works with animals at current.

Ungawa Wrote:Also, it seems that the "pause and customers keep coming" bug is still there even on the public version...

"keep coming" in the sense of they appear at the brothel? or just just keep doing an animation and suddenly finish while its actually paused?
in which rooms this happened? (bar, animal show, private rooms, etc...)

Sorry for interfering with your gameflow.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Ungawa » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:03 pm

Oh, i just remembered: If you haven't a wolf, you can't choose the private show room since it only works with animals at current.


Oh boy, that's some crazy implications...

"keep coming" in the sense of they appear at the brothel? or just just keep doing an animation and suddenly finish while its actually paused?


The issue is that the pause function prevents me from ending the day near the end. So they come into the bar, sit down, I can get the money, but always another person comes in so that it's without a stop to the flow.

I paused near the end of the day and was like "hey, this ain't bad" but then I realized it wasn't stopping so I had to start over.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:35 pm

"keep coming" in the sense of they appear at the brothel? or just just keep doing an animation and suddenly finish while its actually paused?


The issue is that the pause function prevents me from ending the day near the end. So they come into the bar, sit down, I can get the money, but always another person comes in so that it's without a stop to the flow.

I paused near the end of the day and was like "hey, this ain't bad" but then I realized it wasn't stopping so I had to start over.


It seems like those clients just couldn't accept closing time! Those perverts!
But seriously, I found the bug and fixed it for the next update.
Thank you for telling me!
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby Justapuppet » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:40 am

random Crow Wrote:The only thing where you can loose reputation is by dismissing a client and let his patience run out by waiting.
To get from "well known" to the next reputation level you currently need double the points.
You wen't back to "unheard-of"? While playing the game or after reloading it? Because this should actually be quit impossible :?
And no there weren't any balance changes lately.



Unfortunately, I've been too busy to do much more testing with this. I played with the game a bit more, loading the same save later (it seemed like the reputation was sortof "stuck" at that point?), but haven't had the time to start over and see if I could get it to happen again, to even be more sure of how I did it. I think I actually did re-load it to see if it would change anything when I first noticed it seemed weird, and that might have been what caused it to drop back down to the lower level, where it just kinda... stayed indefinitely.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby random Crow » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:00 pm

Justapuppet Wrote:
random Crow Wrote:The only thing where you can loose reputation is by dismissing a client and let his patience run out by waiting.
To get from "well known" to the next reputation level you currently need double the points.
You wen't back to "unheard-of"? While playing the game or after reloading it? Because this should actually be quit impossible :?
And no there weren't any balance changes lately.



Unfortunately, I've been too busy to do much more testing with this. I played with the game a bit more, loading the same save later (it seemed like the reputation was sortof "stuck" at that point?), but haven't had the time to start over and see if I could get it to happen again, to even be more sure of how I did it. I think I actually did re-load it to see if it would change anything when I first noticed it seemed weird, and that might have been what caused it to drop back down to the lower level, where it just kinda... stayed indefinitely.


I worked on the displayed reputation and found a few inconsistencies. I fixed it up for the next update. Maybe your bug vanished with it alongside.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (Hotfix 1.4.2) (07/24/16)

Postby ElPresidente » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:40 pm

random Crow Wrote:
ElPresidente Wrote:Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first available room.


Frankly said, I don't want to change big chunks of the code, because I want to develop further ahead. But since you already have IxFa as a follower I would like to hear in which way you would change the assignment in detail. The order of events. Maybe I can do something about it then.


The reason I'm saying this is because it's impossible pot have the exact girl in the exact room (since you don't know in advance what a client will want), and once assigned you can't switch. Not that rooms are that important in a brothel anyway, but assuming they are, there would be little sense in permanently tying a girl to a room.
I don't know how you coded it so I won't comment on it, nor how hard it would be to change.

Ideally (and how most brothels with different rooms work), is that you have a room where the girls hang out and they go to a room with a client as needed.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (version 1.5!) (08/01/16)

Postby random Crow » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:27 pm

New version released. Have fun testing it out!


Some other stuff:
IxFa Wrote:I've run into those same bugs, Kozd
It was kind of bizarre. I put a kennel in there, in the back of the house, then it switched to the front where a slave chamber used to be
Then it just disappeared altogether.

I found the bug. Thanks Kozd and IxFa!

ElPresidente Wrote:
random Crow Wrote:
ElPresidente Wrote:Reccomendation:
- do not tie a girl to a room. Makes little sense.

Rather, rooms will be automatically assigned. In other words, select a girl for a customer. If a room he wants is available, he will go there and the girl will go there. Otherwise, they will go to the first available room.


Frankly said, I don't want to change big chunks of the code, because I want to develop further ahead. But since you already have IxFa as a follower I would like to hear in which way you would change the assignment in detail. The order of events. Maybe I can do something about it then.


The reason I'm saying this is because it's impossible pot have the exact girl in the exact room (since you don't know in advance what a client will want), and once assigned you can't switch. Not that rooms are that important in a brothel anyway, but assuming they are, there would be little sense in permanently tying a girl to a room.
I don't know how you coded it so I won't comment on it, nor how hard it would be to change.

Ideally (and how most brothels with different rooms work), is that you have a room where the girls hang out and they go to a room with a client as needed.

Thanks for the explanation. I will play around with some different assignment scenarios in my head. I really can't tell you if I will change it in the first place though.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (version 1.5!) (08/01/16)

Postby masonjason » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:43 pm

Man you are on fire with the updates lately! Nice work.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (version 1.5!) (08/01/16)

Postby masonjason » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:20 am

I have noticed a bug though. When a human girl offers her 'services' in the bar, she seems to be sinking in to the floor further each time she does it. Please view the attachment for clarification.
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Re: zum Damenhaus (version 1.5!) (08/01/16)

Postby random Crow » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:23 am

masonjason Wrote:I have noticed a bug though. When a human girl offers her 'services' in the bar, she seems to be sinking in to the floor further each time she does it. Please view the attachment for clarification.


Haven't you heard? All slaves are now ghosts!

But in all seriousness, I don't even need to take a look at the code, since I already know why this bug is happening :/

Thanks for the report! I'll fix it for the next update.
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