Breeding Season: Alpha Version 5.3 [Update 11/3/14]

[GoRepeat]

Still salvageable, look for an artist who'll want to take the reins. S-purple has a habit of not finishing projects, see it through with a fresh face, it might be the boost you need. It's not over yet, just a bump in the road.

I'll make Breeding Season vG out of spite! Give me a month or two

[Yamemai]

I'm disgusted with S-Purple. I actually funded the game as well. Then to find out it all went to him funding an entirely different game that basically he just stole the money for.

I hope S-Purple gets caught with karma, and his fans bring him down a notch.

Actually, I read, in another forum, that H-bomb did something similar, early on in the game -- where he took donations and went awol for a year, or so, then came back when people were discussing rebooting the game. Note, this is only at least 3rd-hand knowledge, so don't quote me on it, though you may find clues on it in this forum, if you go through it. (Reason why I said blame game :p -- there's a theory that they're faking this lol)

@GoRepeat, wish you luck.

[zolpidem]

Purple-S just destroyed his own credibility in one fell swoop. His undying supporters will throw their money at his new project (its first benchmark is $9,000! Jesus H. Christ!) until they get burned again.

It seems that H-Bomb was an inept manager, but Purple-S obviously did this out of malice. Yamemai already points this out. Purple-S says one thing and does another. I'm glad I only gave the minimal donation for only two or three months before this project went tits-up.

[Nevyn]

I'm disgusted with S-Purple. I actually funded the game as well. Then to find out it all went to him funding an entirely different game that basically he just stole the money for.

I hope S-Purple gets caught with karma, and his fans bring him down a notch.

Actually, I read, in another forum, that H-bomb did something similar, early on in the game -- where he took donations and went awol for a year, or so, then came back when people were discussing rebooting the game. Note, this is only at least 3rd-hand knowledge, so don't quote me on it, though you may find clues on it in this forum, if you go through it. (Reason why I said blame game :p -- there's a theory that they're faking this lol)

@GoRepeat, wish you luck.

*there's a theory that they're faking this lol*

unlikely, seeing as the patreon page for Breeding Season is gone, so if they are faking it they are doing something really wrong or to well.

[Valaska]

Still salvageable, look for an artist who'll want to take the reins. S-purple has a habit of not finishing projects, see it through with a fresh face, it might be the boost you need. It's not over yet, just a bump in the road.

I'll make Breeding Season vG out of spite! Give me a month or two

A saint among us most unsaintly this one is! I'd totally dust off ye'old bones and such to help out with a project like that. I still have some artist friends from GiS days, again sorry that project fell through ._.

I'm disgusted with S-Purple. I actually funded the game as well. Then to find out it all went to him funding an entirely different game that basically he just stole the money for.

I hope S-Purple gets caught with karma, and his fans bring him down a notch.

Actually, I read, in another forum, that H-bomb did something similar, early on in the game -- where he took donations and went awol for a year, or so, then came back when people were discussing rebooting the game. Note, this is only at least 3rd-hand knowledge, so don't quote me on it, though you may find clues on it in this forum, if you go through it. (Reason why I said blame game :p -- there's a theory that they're faking this lol)

@GoRepeat, wish you luck.

*there's a theory that they're faking this lol*

unlikely, seeing as the patreon page for Breeding Season is gone, so if they are faking it they are doing something really wrong or to well.

This made me chuckle! I agree, typically when you fake your own death you don't actually commit suicide!

[Just that guy]

hey GO repeat

i have a ver of breeding season 6.5 if you want to rework it, pm me if you do

[Just that guy]

i hate to see it go but i hate to see it abused even more by spurple

[Yamemai]

Yeah, worded that poorly -- I meant, they're faking the whole 'fiasco' argument, so they have an excuse to quit BS; pretty much, I'm quitting, but since I don't want to seem like an a-hole, taking all this money, I'll put on an act. [Diverting the backlash, as the person who posted this theory (ulmf, page 19, Haxor101), stated] (I think there was another, better explained one, but can't find it.)

Though not likely, from what I've read/inferred (You can feel the anger in H's rant.), it could be possible. Some reasons:

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

1. ulmf, BS thread, page 18, censuur
2. H-Bomb and co decide to just wash their hands of the project, rather then to hire more members with the current funds/savings (what was it, around 100+k? They were make like 30-40k before expenses each monthfor crying out loud).
3. Was after Vanilly gave her/his resignation letter, and from the looks of it, s/he was the only real one working.

Ps. Can'r quote right now, since I'm on my tablet.

[Dead2112man]

Yamemai, if you had keep up with the games blog you would know that
1. There where looking to hire new members on as they posted so on July 7
2. People don't say "here take all this money even though you will never get a job as an artist again by me putting on an act"
3. there is a lot of proof before showing that S was diverging from the project and secretly making his own until trying this
and well yea, Vanilly was over worked from this stunt from S making Vanilly do all of what he was meant to be working on instead.

[MechDragon]

GOrepeat, if i were you, i'd sift through the assets, find out what belongs to whom, and contact them to make sure they are fine with you starting it up again. while you could infer that he intended that from the way he posted about it, you might wanna double check. just so you don't end up in legal trouble.

[MechDragon]

Because this whole thing reeks of legal sinkholes. also, as a PSA for all you aspiring creators, this could be prevented from happening again by forming a company. i'm gonna leave a paragraph in a spoiler explaining it if anyone wants it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

Okay. first i'm gonna say this. i have vary little training in business, this is literally just me spouting what i learned in a class last semester. there are three forms of management concerning legal ownership. an individual, a partnership, and a company. the thing about individuals is if for some reason someone sues you do to one thing you own, say a game, they can take everything you own, including your car and your house. the thing about partnerships is, the contract decides what happens, so if someone doesn't pay attention to how the contract is written, you can be screwed. the reason people choose either of these is because it's very difficult to set up a company. in order to get a company permit, you have to create mission statements, responsibilities need to be assigned, a board has to be created. what makes a company so great is though, should a lawsuit form over something it owns, the only thing that can be lost is what the company owns, like say rights to a game, instead of things like your car or your house. you can also write in the company contract that, one, all things made for the company is owned by the company, like say assets to a game should some one decide to jump ship. two, a non compete clause, saying from the time you started your job to a certain period after you OFFICIALLY are separated from the company, you are not aloud to work on, for, or with something competing with the company. there are more things to it, and more stuff about why you might pick one thing over another, but that's all i got related to this subject.
PM me if you have any questions, or corrections if i got something wrong. again, last semester was when i learned this stuff.

[Seriathus]

Still salvageable, look for an artist who'll want to take the reins. S-purple has a habit of not finishing projects, see it through with a fresh face, it might be the boost you need. It's not over yet, just a bump in the road.

I'll make Breeding Season vG out of spite! Give me a month or two

Pls no we're still waiting for Sakyu 3 and House of R'Toth

[nemoudeis]

I just hope people from the H-Game industry will learn from this story and make well-written contracts BEFORE starting their businesses. The whole drama could have been avoided if S-Purple and HBomb had thought about all the legal outcomes of their agreement before starting the venture. Even if they could not foresee their success at the time, they still could think about what would happen if everything went wrong in the future. That is what contracts are for.

[Deathisnotanoption]

I just hope people from the H-Game industry will learn from this story and make well-written contracts BEFORE starting their businesses. The whole drama could have been avoided if S-Purple and HBomb had thought about all the legal outcomes of their agreement before starting the venture. Even if they could not foresee their success at the time, they still could think about what would happen if everything went wrong in the future. That is what contracts are for.

I had the exact same problem with the hentai game I presented on this site. Made a contract with four artists and two programmers. Ended so terribly I wasn't able to even post concepts. ;---;

[Kaxlene]

If he really wanted, i could redraw every pose and image... though im not a animator... just a hentai artist ; n ;

[Darkone5315]

http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147484294391/breeding-seasons-cancelation-my-side-of-the

Just going to leave this here, if you guys want to read it go ahead.
i just believe both sides should be heard.

[evildumdum]

Just to make you people aware, yes, S-purple did a shitty thing. But the main problem of this project is and always has been H-bombs lack of commitment and management skills. You can attempt to reboot it but it will swallow money like a black hole and just fail in exactly the same manner.

H-bomb has collected enough money over the course of this failed development to set up a professional game studio with full time employee's. The fact that at the first excuse given (some art assets would be missing) he has shut the thing down and will no longer be working on it speaks volumes. Apart from that fact, most progress over the last couple of years has been art based. Plot and game engine has been negligible at best and mostly done by a freelance programmer. H-bomb himself has been mostly AWOL with a few streams of him playing x-box every now and then. In other words, this project is dead from lack of commitment, not art issues.

H-bomb, If you have any integrity you will use the hundreds of thousands of pounds you have acquired to make good on your promises despite this setback. You still have the rights to the game and the game engine. Art assets are easy to acquire if you have money, and you do. This time, properly commit.

[Cypress_z]

I've been around since this forum started in one form or another and I was developing before Breeding Season existed and watched them take off like a rocket - I was happy for them. But now I'm just frustrated with this whole situation. Stuff like this damages those of us making games that also rely on Patreon to support development because it erodes confidence in the platform people like HentaiWriter and I are trying to build. But somehow they just make crazy amounts of money even after disasters like this. I predicted this would happen a long time ago but that's not special; anyone could have read the writing on the wall. Yet the supporters didn't and got taken for a ride. Days after this whole thing happened S-Purple is already about to make more money than I worked years to build up to. I have an eight hour long game I successfully finished that I funded mostly out of my own pocket and I'm working on a second. It makes me feel like a huge failure in a lot of ways. Is it the style, the content, the huge promises? Is my work just terrible? I just don't know. I'm not the only one to work hard and put out games and I have to wonder if any of the other creators feel the same way I do. The whole situation just makes me question what any of this is all about.

I'm jealous and I'm frustrated that I'm jealous because I don't feel this way about any other creators. I wanted to be wrong and have this work out for them. I wanted them to help this new industry and make a real strong studio. I'd like to think I could have, if I'd been in their position. But most of all this whole situation makes me feel like a whiny jealous asshole, and that's what I hate most of all. I shouldn't give a damn about anyone else's work and focus on my own - complaining about how other people's work goes is just hurting yourself. But this whole thing just feels like a kick in the balls to everyone involved. The fans get screwed and other creators suffer from the platform taking a hit to its credibility in the fallout. And people just keep throwing good money after bad. I just don't know what to make of it all anymore.

[JacksonGood]

http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147484294391/breeding-seasons-cancelation-my-side-of-the

Just going to leave this here, if you guys want to read it go ahead.
i just believe both sides should be heard.

Cool. They all sound like Russian dudes.

[Borkenone]

http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/147484294391/breeding-seasons-cancelation-my-side-of-the
Just going to leave this here, if you guys want to read it go ahead.
i just believe both sides should be heard.

I don't know due, even if H.bomb was a terrible coworker and a shitty team leader, and was leading the project to doom.
"quit and refuse to sell the already in use are work while creating a similar project at the same time." is still too much of a backstabbing to be justified.