[Krystal] My hand is open

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[Krystal] My hand is open

Postby -Soloid- » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:59 pm

Hi people.
I did'nt introduce myself in the general topic, because I will only post on this board, so I think It's better like this, I'll just have my own topic to talk.
Before saying anything, you have to know I'm french, so please excuse my language and my future mistakes. Don't hesitate to correct me.
During the vacations, I was thinking about LoK, I'm a great fan and I think this flash game is the one which really makes me want to learn flash. If Renara show this : thanks <3
So, I was thinking about the game, and wondering about the principle of animation, learning from the original LoK .fla file.
After some ressearches (I'll post them if you want to), I decided to make my own version of Krystal, and make here capable of any position without graphic bug of strange connection. So here it is, I hope you'll enjoy it.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Kryger » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:50 pm

Pretty shweet. I like it.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:20 pm

There is things I don't like but also things I really like. The head is just a really good edit of the original and it shows much potential as well as hands and feet is fairly good. The cum-shot is also showing good potential especially because it is frame-by-frame and it is hard to get it to look good/smooth.

What I don't like is how weird shaped the body is and how short it is, makes her look more like a cub. Also how some of the parts are put together, like the legs and the body/calves and the jaw with the head.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Cryl » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:43 pm

I like it...


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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby ByHisBillowingBeard » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:51 am

It's pretty damn good. I appreciate that it requires touch-ups so shall not go into them, in particular the hip area.

Good animation and a fantastic start.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Reapergod36 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:26 am

The bottom of the penis is sticking out of her mouth. Make sure to correct that...
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby haloman » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:28 am

I like it! but ill give some advice to buddy.
Her knees look like they are detached from her calves (in the BJ)
Her neck looks REALLY skinny
Her right hand only shows a single finger, which if you look at it you can see its JUST a finger moving over the cock, id say add more of the hand behind the cocks lair (in the BJ)
Her hips are a little... off. Kinda hard to explaine
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby xcommando » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:52 am

Well first I think it is damn good. I like your style. I do agree with what KaTsuO_O said somewhat, but I feel like once you touch and neaten up your work it will look extremely well. I also understand his point about how small she is, like a cub, but to me she just looks like a more petite Krystal in my opinion... Which I like~
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby FuzzFace » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:20 am

Very good! besides what the others have said, it has turned out good.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby trunks2585 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:23 am

Well nice to see you contribute something on your first post, that's a great start.

That being said, I feel like I'm looking at midget porn.

Let's start with something simple, the average person is between 7-8 heads tall, get krystal up to about 7 heads tall and show us what you got then. And don't just stretch her out, it's painfully obvious when that's all that's been done and won't correct other problems that come form being too short.

I do like the detail to the hands, feet i'm not sure on, but i won't say they are bad.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby BlueLight » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:50 am

trunks2585 Wrote:Well nice to see you contribute something on your first post, that's a great start.

That being said, I feel like I'm looking at midget porn.

Let's start with something simple, the average person is between 7-8 heads tall, get krystal up to about 7 heads tall and show us what you got then. And don't just stretch her out, it's painfully obvious when that's all that's been done and won't correct other problems that come form being too short.

I do like the detail to the hands, feet i'm not sure on, but i won't say they are bad.


The head thing is important for art. You'll see it in at least 75% of books about drawing people and really i just gave the lowest possible number.

The neck needs some work. One of the things that annoyed me when i tried to draw people was the neck. It was a pain in the ass.
Now i'm not at all a art expect and i've only had one drawing of a human being that came out well. but i would think of the neck as a candle stick. Basically a cylinder on top of a shushed cone.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Abstraction » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:51 am

Very smooth animation. Nice cumshot. I've got to agree with the comment about "midget porn" though. Taller would be better.

On the English note I just have to say it's "her" not "here". I speak French as well (although not naitively) so I think I understand the confusion on the addition of the e for the feminine. But in English it's just her :D

Seems like a really small thing but I figured I'd point it out, only because you asked.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Sync » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:34 am

haloman Wrote:I like it! but ill give some advice to buddy.
Her knees look like they are detached from her calves (in the BJ)
Her neck looks REALLY skinny
Her right hand only shows a single finger, which if you look at it you can see its JUST a finger moving over the cock, id say add more of the hand behind the cocks lair (in the BJ)
Her hips are a little... off. Kinda hard to explaine


If you look carefully...her right hand is on the ground next to her when she kneels. I'm guessing it's supposed to be the thumb of the left hand you're seeing on top of the cock - but if that's the case, it's a veeerrryy long thumb (or the hand is in a very strange position... >.> )

Otherwise I'm going to go with most other comments:
* her head is good
* her torso is good
* her hips are...wierd (too wide...?)
* her legs are too short

She looks, body-wise, like a dwarf version of Krystal. :-/

The animation is pretty good, too. :)
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby -Soloid- » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:15 pm

About the height : I wanted her to be that height, but if you think she's too small, I'll correct it.
About the hands : I didn't spend much time on it, so it has to be better.
About the hips : difficult part, cause I cut the part of her body a way she could have any position.
About the cock under the mouth : my fault, didn't see this.

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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby kojiro » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:47 pm

nice edit. only suggestion i have is to remove the lines where the different body parts connect so it doesn't really seem like everything is divided into pieces(even though hey really are)
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby LouDiamonds » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:44 am

I love the way you've animated krystal, it looks great. All the issues i saw were mentioned already. Her tongue is the best i've seen so far.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Smackman » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:35 pm

the pelvis is protruding over her leg, what i think you need to do is rework the outlines in that region (and some of the colouring) think 3 dimensionally instead of 2, you probably shouldnt be able to see the pelvis on one side
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:35 pm

Just did a fast edit of the original and I think it would look almost perfect like this:
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Note how she was about 4.5 heads tall and now only 1 head taller so 7 heads tall would be a bit too tall in my opinion.

Also, here is a edit I did in flash after I posted this post and I think it looks even better:
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby trunks2585 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:02 pm

I'd add at least one more head to her, also did you do in the first edit what I specifically told the OP NOT to do, and just stretch out the body? I know you cleaned it up in the second post, but sometimes it's better to mostly redraw the body and just trace the parts that were perfect and move them down as needed (in this case the hands at least).

Anyways I'd say she's about as tall as the actual in game model of krystal from the actual starfox games, while playshapes went with a more realistic height krystal, that's why I'm pushing for making her a bit taller. Either way it's up to the OP we'll see what he does with it.
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Re: [Krystal] My hand is open

Postby Maryann93 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:38 am

Hey Soloid! I see you said your french =P I would really like to speak french wit someone on this forum ^^ (great work!!)
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