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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Lucky777 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:01 pm

It's true that this is more of a story than a game, more of a collection of scenes than a game, but adding gameplay elements doesn't seem to me like it would cause a later production to "top" this one.

In fact, it would not. It would simply cause the later production to have gameplay elements, which might or might not be worth anyone's time, depending on various criteria that have nothing to do with H scenes at all. Trying to strive for gameplay mechanic excellence would divert your valuable efforts into the irrelevant.

To make the next production superior to this one would involve adding yet more detail to the scenes. More varied models, more varied positions, more catering to various fetishes, more expressiveness in the faces of the characters, more and better sound effects, that sort of thing. A greater interactive element than simply "click the button to advance the scene" might help as well, like in the interactive touching game that you can find on funny-games.biz, featuring Tifa. Good luck coding that sort of thing if you DO try to do it, though, because I don't imagine it's particularly simple.

The bottom line is detail.

Better drawn characters are hotter than stick figures. More fluidly animated characters are hotter than jerky ones. More expressive characters are hotter than robots (unless a person has a fetish for robots.) Anything that conveys the excitement of the sex act and the building towards and enjoyment of orgasm is what you want.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:15 pm

@KaTsuO_O - Yes, true. You can't call this a real game, but people still enjoy it. And I think you know that all I can do with scripting is the button command. So puzzle in this game would be the same same thing as in those meet-and-fuck games [which I don't like btw]. But you have to give me one thing "I DID FINISH IT". I don't mean to be rude but how many games around this site are fisihed or at least half way done. I know that aiming higher should be my top priority. But you know. I know what I can do, and it's not making games. I did this only becouse it was requested. And that reminds me how is your work on Area 52 going 8-) ?

@Vice-a-Roni - thanks you :D . I am using your advice right now. If you want to post more than please do. I will use it and update the game once I finish all the edits.

@Lucky777- words of truth :ugeek:

One more thing- who found the 3 trolls I put in the game? :D
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Vice-a-Roni » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Mr D Wrote:But you have to give me one thing "I DID FINISH IT". I don't mean to be rude but how many games around this site are fisihed or at least half way done. I know that aiming higher should be my top priority. But you know. I know what I can do, and it's not making games. I did this only becouse it was requested.


Don't put yourself down. From what I've seen, you have potential for this. It's just a matter of whether or not you want to invest your time in it.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby KaTsuO_O » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:44 pm

@Mr D "but people still enjoy it." They do but I never said that they didn't.

"And I think you know that all I can do with scripting is the button command." If you need to know how to make anything then it is only to ask or look up a tutorial for it, I mean just because you don't know how to do it, it doesn't mean it is impossible to learn it.

"So puzzle in this game would be the same same thing as in those meet-and-fuck games [which I don't like btw]." It would only be like a meet-and-fuck game if you made it like one. Just look at Bowser's castle by Playshapes or a game where you first have to complete rounds of a puzzle to strip a girl and then when you have complete it you get a scene. To add puzzle elements was just a example of what you can do, you can do a rpg, platformer or simdate like game. Just suggesting that's all and from what I have seen more people like some challenges in H-games so if you want to top it then you move towards what most of the people would like (I might be very wrong and it is different for the people here but it isn't according to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1116 and a thread that was called "What do you think about H-games" or something like that (which seems deleted).

"But you have to give me one thing "I DID FINISH IT"" It is good that you finished it, I never said anything about that you didn't.

"I did this only becouse it was requested." I thought this was the reason: "But I think it would be for the best if I keep it simple."

"And that reminds me how is your work on Area 52 going 8-) ?" Why asking? I mean again I didn't say anything about that I have done better or something.

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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Zaraki » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:10 pm

Mr D Wrote:@KaTsuO_O - Yes, true. You can't call this a real game, but people still enjoy it. And I think you know that all I can do with scripting is the button command. So puzzle in this game would be the same same thing as in those meet-and-fuck games [which I don't like btw]. But you have to give me one thing "I DID FINISH IT". I don't mean to be rude but how many games around this site are fisihed or at least half way done. I know that aiming higher should be my top priority. But you know. I know what I can do, and it's not making games. I did this only becouse it was requested. And that reminds me how is your work on Area 52 going 8-) ?

@Vice-a-Roni - thanks you :D . I am using your advice right now. If you want to post more than please do. I will use it and update the game once I finish all the edits.

@Lucky777- words of truth :ugeek:

One more thing- who found the 3 trolls I put in the game? :D

Like Vice said Mr.D, your work is actually both very good and fun if you want my opinion, and you should take this as just the next step in your mastery of reaching the peak of your potential. It's not easy, but it can be done if you spend some time and effort to learn more. When I joined the DA domain 4 years ago, I barelly knew anything about photoshop or flash and the best I could do is contribute hentai work to the community. With time though I not only learned how to do some really cool things with flash, but i was also making a couple indie things here and there and before i knew it I started doing requests for people. Take it from me man, life rewards effort and hard work, but it sure as hell doesn't come fast. It takes some time.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:32 pm

@KaTsuO_O- sorry if I sounded a bit too agresive (didn't really mean to).
About the "I did this only becouse it was requested." part. Well, I was talking about the game/slideshow. Basicaly I started this "game" becouse people wanted me to put my models into a game.
And about the gameplay. It's not that I didn't research it but once I saw all that scripting just for something as walking, my head nearly exploded. I never studied scripting or something similar and learning it would take months -_-. And I have a bit of a problem with "drive". If something takes too long than I just lose interest in it (like the LoK futa custom that I did). If I will ever do more coplicated scripting than I want to fully understand it.(and not something like "put this code in there and than it walks......why? Becouse magic :P")

And about the Area 52 - I really want to know. You uploaded some good models and animations and than it just.....stopped. I was wondering if the Area 52 is still alive but didn't want to troll in Area 52 threads by asking "where is the update?" sort of post (I find those kinds of posts a bit annoying}.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Zaraki » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:41 pm

Mr D Wrote:@KaTsuO_O- sorry if I sounded a bit too agresive (didn't really mean to).
About the "I did this only becouse it was requested." part. Well, I was talking about the game/slideshow. Basicaly I started this "game" becouse people wanted me to put my models into a game.
And about the gameplay. It's not that I didn't research it but once I saw all that scripting just for something as walking, my head nearly exploded. I never studied scripting or something similar and learning it would take months -_-. And I have a bit of a problem with "drive". If something takes too long than I just lose interest in it (like the LoK futa custom that I did). If I will ever do more coplicated scripting than I want to fully understand it.(and not something like "put this code in there and than it walks......why? Becouse magic :P")

And about the Area 52 - I really want to know. You uploaded some good models and animations and than it just.....stopped. I was wondering if the Area 52 is still alive but didn't want to troll in Area 52 threads by asking "where is the update?" sort of post (I find those kinds of posts a bit annoying}.

Well you will never fully understand the process then If you don't take the time learn how it works my friend. I promise it''s got nothing to do with magic.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:48 pm

@Zaraki-lol by "put this code in there and than it walks......why? Becouse magic :P" I ment that I don't want to do it like that. I know that I can use codes that I don't understand how they work, but I don't want to do that. I want to understand first and than use leter.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Zaraki » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:57 pm

Mr D Wrote:@Zaraki-lol by "put this code in there and than it walks......why? Becouse magic :P" I ment that I don't want to do it like that. I know that I can use codes that I don't understand how they work, but I don't want to do that. I want to understand first and than use leter.

lol yes don't worry I get you. and once you do understand it's really not so complicated anymore.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby KaTsuO_O » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:24 pm

@Mr D don't worry, you didn't sound aggressive at all. About coping and pasting, I really agree, you should always have a hm about what the code does and why it does it before adding it. A way to see that is actually to braking down the piece of code and just try think about what each part does and also modifying it a bit helps you understand it better or if you just want to try to memorize how to write certain parts you can just write it letter by letter instead of copy and paste. I used to copy and paste a lot before and later I just learned how to write some stuff right because of all the times I have used it so copy and paste isn't always that bad.

This is kind of off topic but here's a really simple walk code (AS2):

onClipEvent (load) {
speed = 10;
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (Key.isDown (Key.RIGHT)) {
_root.character._x+= speed;
}
if (Key.isDown (Key.LEFT)) {
_root.character._x-= speed;
}
}

Now, it would be good if you could try to tell me what each part of this code does by only looking at it and don't overlook the stuff that you have no idea about.

When it comes to Area 52, Malcanthet who draws the character and costumes have been through some stuff and also been working almost all the summer so things have been on hold for a good while now but good news is that she are coming back 10 of September so we can hopefully have something to show this month (much will be private like most of it is already).
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:24 pm

KaTsuO_O Wrote:This is kind of off topic but here's a really simple walk code (AS2):

onClipEvent (load) {
speed = 10;
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (Key.isDown (Key.RIGHT)) {
_root.character._x+= speed;
}
if (Key.isDown (Key.LEFT)) {
_root.character._x-= speed;
}
}


Can't understand a single thing :D . If it's something harder than "stop" or "go to and play" than I don't understand.

Well enough of me being a noob in scripting :lol:

WHO'S THAT POKEMON :D
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby KaTsuO_O » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:15 pm

@Mr D "Can't understand a single thing :D . If it's something harder than "stop" or "go to and play" than I don't understand."

... This is not good, now I can't resist to try to make you understand.

onClipEvent (load) {
speed = 10;
}

This piece is loading a variable, a variable is something you can make and then add something to it. In this case I have chosen to call my variable "speed" and add the value 10 to it.

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (Key.isDown (Key.RIGHT)) {
_root.character._x+= speed;
}
if (Key.isDown (Key.LEFT)) {
_root.character._x-= speed;
}
}

if (Key.isDown (Key.RIGHT)) { This could simply be translated in to "If you press down the right arrow key" and what comes after that piece is what happens if you do that.

_root.character._x+= speed; could be translated in to "Character moves in the speed of 10 to the right" and "character" is the instance name of my player. X is right and left, Y is up and down (Z is towards and away from you I believe but isn't used in flash/Actionscript, I think at least). X+ is right, X- is left, Y+ is down and Y- is up. One thing you can do is to create something in a random spot of the screen and then go to properties, Position and size because there you will see that it will show the X and Y position of what you made/is highlighted.

If you have understood everything I explained then you shouldn't worry about that you don't know what every symbol and stuff means because otherwise you won't get anywhere and in fact you figure it out what it means sooner or later.

Anyways, enough of this already.

Awesome, pokemorphs is my favorites beside regular furries so I look forward to see what you can do with these.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:08 pm

@KaTsuO_O - I think I sort of undestand what you sayd. But I will have to have a second look at it to be sure

Okey everyone. I will post the new pokemorph model 12 hours after this post. Guess what pokemorph it is and what sex it is. I wonder how many of you will guess right :D
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby haloman » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:17 pm

Blazakin Female. Imma laugh if im right
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby SFFan » Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:04 am

haloman Wrote:Blazakin Female. Imma laugh if im right


its Flamedramon
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby krazy4luv2 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:29 am

SFFan Wrote:
haloman Wrote:Blazakin Female. Imma laugh if im right


its Flamedramon

Flamedramon is a digimon :lol:
At first I thought it was the charizard that was in the peril on pokemorpth island? Am I right ;)?
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Zaraki » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:52 am

Looks like a dominatrix Male Charzard.
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby Mr D » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:08 pm

It's Charizard
Charizard.swf


Zaraki and krazy4luv2 were right :D
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby kuja » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:43 pm

looks good
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Re: Mr.D's Krystal Ball game and Mr.D´s characters

Postby KaTsuO_O » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:12 pm

I like it, especially the head design. The only thing is just how the arms got all those black lines while the other parts got only a few if none black lines, if you make the lines the darkest orange and then add a fade effect to it then it would look better.

Something like this:
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