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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby AzraelWalker » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:56 am

Good game I like it! It’s a solid effort so far and I have no doubt that you guys will make things better.
I do have 2 questions:
- Its not possible at the moment to lower Alice’s dignity below 45 is it?
- Is it possible to make Julia more open and chatty? Or is that not in at the moment either?
And a bunch of feedback/suggestions:
- At the moment it’s basically impossible to make any serious progress into the game without choosing the extra $1000 at the start. You might want to consider raising the starting amount to $2000 or $2500 so the other two options are viable.
- You probably are already working on this, but maybe add a beauty salon location so you can change your girl’s looks (hair/skin colour etc).
- The brothel has kind of a sci-fi theme going, so maybe add in some non-human traits to the girls. Horns/tails/oddly coloured skin/three eyes and so forth.
- More “unique” girls like Julia. You could give these girls their own short stories if you wanted, and defiantly a unique job. Like you might have a Mistress character you could recruit that allows you to train lower level girls more quickly, or a psychiatrist that allows you give girls specific traits (at a very low probity of success)
- More rooms! I’m certain you are working on some of these as well but some suggestions:
o Physical training room: allows your male characters to gain EXP.
o Spar: Increases Mood. Could even throw in some Lesbian or M/F/F threesome scenes in it.
o Security room: Increases Mood as well, gives your male characters somewhere to work, maybe decreases the health of the gangs that come to collect the money?
o Kitchen: Gives everyone a slight boost to their stamina stat?
o Bar: Requires the kitchen to build, lowers the amount of mood a customer loses when forced to wait for a girl.
o Strip club: Same as the bar, uses up a girls stamina so they couldn’t work that night as well.

- Iv got two fairly major game play overhaul suggestions as well:
o Mood: Its way to easy to raise this stat at the moment. Personally what I would do here (and I’m willing to admit this may not be possible for whatever reason) is make it raise a lot slower, so that you have to build a bunch of the rooms I mentioned above to see a noticeable increase, and make it so that giving a girl the 5% bonus when she services a client only keeps her mood steady and the 10% increases it by a little. You could then throw in a random event when a girl services a client where they abuse her, causing a big drop in Mood (because even prostitutes don’t like being yelled at). You could also add in a positive modifier if the girl’s hygiene is high.
o Dignity: Again this is just personally what I would do, but I would overhaul the dignity trait quite a bit. I would start by making Alice start at 100 dignity, and all the other girls have theirs be between 30 and 70 (with maybe 75 being the threshold above which a girl won’t sell herself). You talked about being able to lower dignity somewhere else in this thread, but I would make you be able to raise it as well, perhaps by sending your girls to some sort of etiquette school at a price. Higher dignity girls would attract a much higher price (either because they look better, are more likely to haggle etc) while lower dignity girls would sell themselves cheaper, but make it so the clothing bought from the shop with the best stat increases can only be worn by them (for example the “Spiked Peep” outfit might only be able to be worn by girls with 25 or lower dignity).
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Radiant » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:37 am

I don't get it, I got Alice down to 45, but I can't do anything else because she doesn't show up in the showers anymore. Am I missing something?
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby MegaPlayboy » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:32 am

AzraelWalker Wrote:- At the moment it’s basically impossible to make any serious progress into the game without choosing the extra $1000 at the start. You might want to consider raising the starting amount to $2000 or $2500 so the other two options are viable.


You and I must play very differently because I found the cash bonus to be the hardest of the three, and reputation the easiest.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Merridy » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:14 pm

MegaPlayboy Wrote:
AzraelWalker Wrote:- At the moment it’s basically impossible to make any serious progress into the game without choosing the extra $1000 at the start. You might want to consider raising the starting amount to $2000 or $2500 so the other two options are viable.


You and I must play very differently because I found the cash bonus to be the hardest of the three, and reputation the easiest.


Heh. I, too, found the cash bonus to be essential to get started. How would you even benefit from a reputation bonus if you lack the funds to build the required bedroom (possibly a second dorm, too, since you can only hire one additional person) and hire a prostitute that will be able to satisfy your customers on her own. I found it near impossible to find girls that weren't either lazy or kleptos (annoying the customers) on the first evening, especially since you can't know their traits until you've hired them or paid for a quick romp which is really only an option for male characters as you're going to need your stamina to work alongside your one lonely hire. That $1000 is very very handy to get things started.

Anyway, on to the feedback! :D

I've registered here specifically to write this, because, honestly, SimBro is amazing and addictive and deserves my support (and I will give it, because it has been an absolute waste of my time in the most entertaining way!).

First impressions and observations

I was not too happy that there wasn't an independent *.exe I could download and run from my computer, especially since I'm never too sure about the status of savegames with flash games and I prefer to be able to export and name my saves just to know I have them. So far, nothing bad happened to my game, and I hope it stays that way, though.

My initial reaction to the sprites was "oh, it's just like Splatformer!" which is both good and bad. Good because there's a solid core of animations and customizations available, bad because ... let's be honest, there's exactly one sameface in a profile perspective, the boobs look like floaty balloons and the bodyshape is mostly weird. But it works, there are many good animations that compensate for the initial lack of detail, and you can kinda imagine the girls (and your female protagonist if you have one) have unique and different faces if you try enough.
As for the males... ehhh. My first reaction to seeing the guys was confusion, especially since their faces uses a different perspective than the perma-profile of the girls. Some of their faces are just wrong while the evidently newer ones are obviously meant to sit on a much better body with much nicer clothes.
Which brings me to another early observation: Outfits don't work. At all. The same outfit would show up in multiple instances in the shop, and there's this whole mess with Alice's "office bimbo" outfit which looks nothing like the hot secretary suit I imagine her to wear because it uses recycled Splatformer graphics. Every guy in the game has the same nipple-less torso, the same often off-coloured dick (it took me a while to realize these were not blonde pubes I was looking at but some kind of cock ring) and no personality traits. Which honestly isn't even all that bad considering the girls mostly have negative ones that require me to fire them on the spot because they're too lazy to work or steal from their clients.
Anyway, outfits. I'm aware you're working on them and I'm so looking forward to the next release! It just strikes me as odd that the game is obviously meant to be played using a male protagonist (more on that in a bit) when everyone wears the same old thug outfit and uggo orange boots. I tried to create a Nico Bellic (I'm feeling slightly guilty for it.... very very slightly, it would've rocked) main and I couldn't, and the dudes all sucked with their super pretty or super ugly faces with no beard or hair or eye options, while I could customize my sameface female lead who was then able to wear different outfits and have a unique voice but was not able to do half the things the male lead can. That was .... really, really unbalanced.
But I'm still telling you about my first impressions, right? So, those were my first impressions. Game meant to be played as male, no male customization, males ugly. Females can be customized a bit more but only get half the gameplay, so playing as a male lead makes much more sense and is much more fun.
I found the initial bonus choices difficult to choose from until it dawned on me that only the extra money made sense because all of the girls I would be able to hire on the first day were very prone to have negative traits that put them out of business the same day or the day after, and you absolutely NEED to find a reliable worker in order to serve your first customers who will otherwise be angry and ruin your business forever.

More thoughts and impressions:
- some language issues. I'm not a native English speaker myself so I understand where you're coming from.
- that said, characters' emotes are, for some reason, in past tense, i.e. "she winked at you". No. No, she didn't. :P
- some interface issues. I encountered many situations where I had no way to "end" a conversation other than going back and making a different choice. I also found it increasingly annoying that in the "I'm getting out practice" dialogue from bored girls, the "End" button was not where I expected it to be and there was instead the "Go On" option which forced me through another round of annoying sex when I really only wanted to get rid of the girl. It also currently requires the user to "End" the dialogue twice; once when finishing the sex scene and then again in order to get the girl to leave. This, btw, was one of the most annoying things for me.
- There really has to be a way to shut up the girls who didn't get any that day. I'm not even going for a semi-realistic angle where a whore would probably be super happy to just be paid without having to serve a customer, it's more of a gameplay class issue between maids and whores. I'm totally seconding another user's idea that you should be able to match up whores and thugs so they'll get friendly with each other without bothering the player.
- The bar only works for male characters. Only females can be prostitutes. You already have a class system of thugs, commoners, whores, etc. so it should be easy to make that available to both genders (I think you were already planning on it, as well as working on the required animations, so my point is most likely moot)
- I really wanna bang those police officers
- Alice is funny, and I super enjoyed the shower scene with her which was the latest way to lower her dignity. I don't fully understand her character, though. She obviously has a crush on the (male) protagonist and wants to bang him, and she doesn't really mind being raped in the shower by him, either. Ehhh. Why, exactly, is she there again? Why would she allow this abuse and not despise the guy? There's no option to build any sort of relationship with her, you can only humiliate and abuse her and she's fine with that until she someday has low enough dignity to prostitute herself and that's some kind of success? Yeah, I think not.
- Julia is absolutely adorable. I wished there were more ways to interact with her. I thoroughly enjoyed her unique positions and it made me sad that women by default have some kind of mood problem in this game which lowers their mood if they have sex. It may sound silly but it honestly made me a little happy when Julia's mood improved instead of her usual -5 after "we" had sex. It seemed fairly random, too.
- the prisoner thing depresses me. So I capture enemy ladies and rape them while they visually shake and tremble, and then... what? They stay in my sex dungeon forever, at full hygiene and zero mood and dignity? I want to be able to do something with them. Sell them, perhaps. Convert them, maybe. Talk to them, learn my enemies' secrets... I don't know, the current scenario is just very, very depressing as much as I enjoy force in imaginary scenarios.

Anyway, I could probably go on forever. This game has great potential and I enjoyed it a lot - with a dude, not so much with a gal - so far. I'm definitely going to support you on Patreon and follow the further development. I hope my ramblings weren't too incoherent, I'm currently down with a nasty flu (which is why I had the time to test games on end) which makes me feel all warped and out of this world which probably means my posts are similarly unstructured and weird. Ew.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby naruto95 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:20 pm

Is there a way to fuck Alice? I've tried many different ways o.O
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Merridy » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:49 pm

Nah, there's no way (currently). You can make her feel your privates (works with both male and female protagonist) and assault her in the shower, but that's it. Best you get is a hurried bj. Sorry :P (And I'm not really sorry, I'm rooting for Alice)
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby FredNeto » Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:28 pm

This game is fantastica already and i hope it get better. Wish have more games like this.
I have some kinky sugestions.
1- Some traits for thugs and male npc, like "Agresisve", "Sex Addict" or "Lazy". For more interactions, like if you are a female character and trie to fire a agressive thug he charge and try to rape you, you can scream you be silent e let him finish. The Sex Addict sometimes will be all day fucking one of the whores and you can add him or her to anything.
2- Extra interactions on batle, like the lust, male characters and npc, can attempt rape the females and lowers her stamina. And if you lose, all you female characters can be raped together, not just one, and with the chance of be capture so you have to pay for her back or figth to get her free. You can also be capture if you play a female, having to escape.
3- More facial emotions for girls, like tears, uber pleasure with the tongue out.

I think those changes you make the game more realist and dificult, hope you guys read these and think about.

Keep up the good work, SimBro is already a great game!
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby MegaPlayboy » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 pm

FredNeto Wrote:And if you lose, all you female characters can be raped together, not just one


Much-needed addition.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby AcetheSuperVillain » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:40 am

MegaPlayboy Wrote:
AzraelWalker Wrote:- At the moment it’s basically impossible to make any serious progress into the game without choosing the extra $1000 at the start. You might want to consider raising the starting amount to $2000 or $2500 so the other two options are viable.


You and I must play very differently because I found the cash bonus to be the hardest of the three, and reputation the easiest.


I always take the Skill Boost, +3 Charm and +3 Stamina for Male character. If you are playing the hardest difficulty, then cash makes more sense, but there's no real time limit on things, so I always prefer to have skills to make money rather than money itself. Reputation sounds hardest, since you would get more traffic than you can handle.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Bang It Up! » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:00 pm

Hello.

Just a few suggestions:
1. Name Changer: Just for the staff members, excluding Alice, Julia and other possible storyline characters. Sometimes you want to hire some girls you like from the Bar or Slums, but they might have the same name as one of your staff members and you want to change it.
2. Hairstylist Shop: So that you won't get stuck seeing the same boring hairstyle through out the playthrough, you know... spice things up a little bit.
3. Male Outfit: Same as the "Hairstylist Shop" reason. So, is it possible?

A few questions as well:
1. How do I unlock the Cage Cell option?
2. How do I unlock the Bank?
3. Where can I find the game's save file location on Windows 10 with "Adobe Flash Player 21 projector content debugger"? (Backup purposes)

Thanks.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby MegaPlayboy » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:24 pm

Bang It Up! Wrote:A few questions as well:
1. How do I unlock the Cage Cell option?
2. How do I unlock the Bank?
3. Where can I find the game's save file on Windows 10? (Backup purposes)


1. Several turns into the game, there will be a "police raid," but they will find nothing. Later, Alice suggests remaking the place to look like a massage parlor. The basement becomes available after this renovation in which you can build cages.

2. Not implemented yet.

3. dunno
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Noosie » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:30 pm

*Cough*
Make female PC's more able to fight, or at least not lose mood when they "have fun" with male employees.
*Cough*
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Lucky777 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:51 am

Just raise your females' stamina, HP and STR: You're the one who can make them more able to fight.

As to the mood thing?

Well, either they'll fix that or they won't, but there's no stat you can raise to deal with it.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Bang It Up! » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:00 am

MegaPlayboy Wrote:3. dunno


Sorry, I forgot to mention that I play it on "Adobe Flash Player 21 projector content debugger". Anyway, I already found the game's save file location.

Instructions:
1. Windows 10 (possibly other Windows as well).
2. Download "Adobe Flash Player 21 projector content debugger".
3. Incorporate SWF file to open with "flashplayer_21_sa_debug.exe" file or just drag the SWF file onto the "flashplayer_21_sa_debug.exe" file to open it.
4. Reveal your Hidden items.
5. C:\Users\<Computer User>\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\<Random Codes>\#localWithNet\<From here you just keep going until you see "simbro" folder>
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby PuertoRicanJose » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:26 am

Still loving the hell out of this game your team is putting together Marune! Hopefully I can get my finances stable soon so that I can become a Patreon. Keep up the GREAT work. Just wanted to add a few quick suggestions:

1. Having thugs(Male Main Character Included) cum when being "knocked unconscious" from a lust attack during combat.
2. Letting female main be able to find her thugs in the shower and ask to join them, just as the whores can do for the Male main character.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Redfox85 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:10 pm

I really like the game and played it for quite some hours but I´d like to make a few suggestions - especially because I prefer to play as Fem PC

-at least some events happen to the fem pc as well (there are pretty few at all)
-I would like to see my pc beeing able to be sandwiched /gangbanged just like the captured girls. At least the possible rape scenes should support such acts
-how about some kind of sex traits (for all girls) which might affect the payment like "vaginal/anal/oral expert, always swallows..." and stuff like that.
-Would be nice to chose some kind of trait (even an existing one) for the mc - male or female
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby maidsuckers » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:17 pm

found some bugs, great game absolutly loving it
Win 8.1 ver 9.0
Summary If all playback devices in the sound manager is disable then a couple of bugs will happen
Steps to Produce:
Under the sound manager disable all playback devices

Bugs:
1) When you start a new game it will skip all character customization and start with the default appearance
2) All sex animations are frozen including at slums,showers and master bedroom. You can still progress through them to the results page
3) Passing days will just flash a black screen
4) Days where "you have to pay at reception" will be empty and any sleeping any day past it will always return you to reception
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby loshi1505 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:00 pm

hmm... i'mma gonna say that even if thugs aren't in your party you should have them in the fight against debt collectors if you chose to fight... just because that's like their sole purpose... to fight.... >_>

hmm... also how does someone recruit a tsundere when you pick one up from the bar? like as it is I don't think you can... :?

one more thing... when you release a girl from the cage should there not be a method to recruit one? I mean free or at least lower cost labor after breaking them (dignity 0) kinda makes sense.... >_> (I'm sort of assuming this will come later.... but why not now~ :D )
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby naruto95 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Why the stats haves a limit? I can't tease high levels males, only females. That suck ._.
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Re: The SimBro Game (Brothel Sim)

Postby Marune » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:23 pm

meridina Wrote:
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Just played the new version, gj, I like the changes ^^. Is it normal that you can't convince the slaves yet to join your team?
Dropped their mood, stamina and dignity to 0 and they still dont' want to join the team. So I was wondering if it's already implemented or not, thx in advance for the reply ^^.
New Julia event (Shower), lovely. As far as I know there's no new scene yet with Alice, looking forward for more teases from her side with the upcomming patches ;).

Also wanted to ask if you already have an idea of what to do with the bank and was also wondering if you'll add more joinable locations in the city (police station?!? new brothels etc...)
And when is the special room going to be updated?

Sorry if I'm asking all those questions but was just wandering what you're currently working on and what you'll add with the upcomming patches (what you see as a priority right now at this stade of the game)

Again Good job on what you created so far, keep it up keep it up ^^.

** Smal suggestion: I'd love it if the girls were able to go on a rampage. To muc sex will result in them going all crazy, grouping up and raping every guy you have in your party including the main charakter if it's
male. Maybe even add events that can make your charakter fall into a coma for few days (with a receptionist you won't loose anything, but if you haven't upgraded your brothel yet, you will lose the incom of
2-3 days/ don't know if it's to extreeme or not)

Thx in advance for your reply :D

You can hire a slave if she is exhausted enough during one visit. Note that you can bring some thugs with you (add them to the party).
There is already scene with Alice in the showers, but you have to lower her dignity to 55 first.
We are going to make further scenes for mystery room in 1.0 version update (March)
I like the idea of sex rampage, maybe we should make it like an unique trait for some character =)
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Hi, gr8 project.
Wanted to ask about shower scenes. Girls visit them very rarely, like only one girl per day at surtain random time. Thats normal?
So once I got lucky and found Alice in shower. Came from hers BJ. I refreshed the game-day cause, I dont know if its one time event in game. Wanted to check all possibility, dialogs with her, but with no luck, cant meet her in showers again... :( Is it one time event, and is there an unique shower scene with Julia too?

What can give me more chances of getting Alice and Julias shower scenes more often?

I would like there would be added some beauty saloon/shop, where could change girl hair, ayes, skin, boobs.

Hi! Shower scene now resets at the beginning of the day, so it's enough to check it once a day.
If you got BJ from Alice in the showers, you won't meet her again for now. There is an unique scene with Julia in showers in the next version.
You are right. Maybe we should make higher chances to meet special characters.

Borkenone Wrote:I seem to encounter a bug here:
my female PC can't gain any exp from sex once she reached lv4.

You need to find high level clients - the best way, build your reputation.

Curiousben Wrote:Version .9a : Female Main character still doesn't get paid if she chooses the "trick -> talk his ears off" option. Which is really annoying when you can still get robbed if they figure it out.

Side note: Any chance that we could have the security room interfere with the customer in the case that he catches on to your game of "talk his ears off"?

Good notes. I'll use them to improve female play.
whatwhatwhat Wrote:I'm wondering how you even get a security room and glory hole.

Just wait a bit for 0.9 update.
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I recently played the recent update and joined the paetron. I am impressed with your game however there are some things that I believe would make it better.

1. Change Characters names (not main characters random girls. It gets tedious having three or four Alice's.)
2.New body types for females. (larger and thinner women would make your characters feel more unique.)
3. Shemales (why not there is a market for it and could even implement a trick for the players would be rather funny.)

4. Police (personally would love to see more things involving police perhaps sometimes your girls get locked up and you have to break them out or visit them in jail would be a unique little thing.)

Few questions.

1.The android can we have some info on where you planning on taking this?. still confused with the mystery room.
2. Do you plan on extending current locations?.
3. Male clothes when can we expect some?. or Even some new fem clothing?.

Noticed bug
As a fem I don't get paid when dealing with clients direct unless I encounter them and use peace and offer myself.


Awesome game dude little gem you have going

....Diablosian :mrgreen:

Hi! Welcome aboard!
1. One of the most requested feature.
2. Yes, our artist is already working on them =)
3. Yes, but I can't tell how soon =(
4. Police. Clodia is itching for action.

1. That's the idea of mystery =) We are going to add improvement/explanation to it in March update.
2. Yes, there will be new locations and extending. But first we'll turn on existing ones. Like Bank.
3. I can't promise them for the nearest update, but we have plans to make them with similar system like female outfits (separate undressing and stuff)
Fixed that female play bug, check the lastest version.
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