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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby TedFallenger » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:07 pm

I'm here now too =P

The new elf design is a definite improvement over the old, and I have only 3 suggestions:

1. He should have pale skin if he's a high or wood elf. Might also be worth considering to have drow elves as well, which would have almost black skin.
2. I don't think his pecs need any more definition as his abs.
3. I usually think of elves having longer hair, but that's just me.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby dik3y » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:21 pm

Have you thought of making some kind of talent tree? I mean the guy is nerd after all... xD
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby thedude9351 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:43 am

I like the elf now just pale his skin and it will work great
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby Hnyarly » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:32 am

Merrygate Wrote:You have so far ten pages of posts here, between a third and a half of them are you communicating with us on a back-and-forth basis; in addition, you have a blog where you do the very same thing.

I'm starting to think I have too much free time.
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Merrygate Wrote:My point here is, your English is quite good. Your mistakes are infrequent, mild, and thus far, you have yet to miscommunicate something or require clarification.

That's because you don't see my PMs to people asking what they were meaning.
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Merrygate Wrote:Although, I might have read this and forgot, but I'm not sure if you've told us what your native language is. Letting us know might make it easier to communicate with other multi-linguals.

My native languaje is spanish, but I prefer not to use it in english forums because I think it's not polite (the same that if I were using english in spanish forums). Anyway, you can write me PM or emails in both languajes. I also understand some portuguese, but I can't write it.


Merrygate Wrote:Regarding the Elf's design, I think you're close, and the second picture is playable, but the coconut effect might help make him a little more iconic. The ears are sufficiently long and sufficiently pointy, but if you wanted longer and pointier, you could get away with it if you wanted. The hair colour is good (you could bleach it a bit, but I think this is fine), but the style, at least in my opinion, doesn't work. At least shoulder-length. Any shorter, and our tropes tell us it's a half-elf. The hair can be braided any which way, or kept loose. On his proportions, I have no qualms with what you've presented.

I think I going to try more experiments with this model and I'll show you the results.
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Merrygate Wrote:I'd like to request a quick update, would you please change the text of the old wo/man's note to something less misleading?

Mmmmmm, it seems that the wrong note works perfectly as commercial of my work. I mean, people that find my game in other webs and are interested enough to play until they find the note, is the kind of peolpe that look for more information in google (and then they find me).

Merrygate Wrote:Have you thought about a name for this yet? At least twice I've lost this game on the LoK page.

The fact is that the game doesn't still have a name. "Sex realm" is not the definitive name of the game. So, I accept suggestions for alternative names. xD (Actually, the name is a string variable that I can change very easy).

TedFallenger Wrote:1. He should have pale skin if he's a high or wood elf. Might also be worth considering to have drow elves as well, which would have almost black skin.

He's supposed to be a traveler elf... I don't want to say more or I'll end spoiling surpises... xD
So I could let this skin colour. BTW, I'm working on another elf model (this is almost finished), and has a more pale skin. Once the elves are finished and animated, I've done the next release. (Crossed fingers)

And it's almost sure you'll find drows.

TedFallenger Wrote:2. I don't think his pecs need any more definition as his abs.

I'll keep on doing experiments with muscles and definition. I mean, if it doesn't work for elf model, it may do for the human models (that I planned to be more muscular, dark skinners and taller).

TedFallenger Wrote:3. I usually think of elves having longer hair, but that's just me.

I think so too, but I wanted to try some kind of "modern" elf look. Once you find him in the game, you'll have a higher perspective of his role.

dik3y Wrote:Have you thought of making some kind of talent tree?

OMFG!
You shouldn't have said that! I can't help imagining a sexual talent three. That's too awesome. I must find a way to implement it!
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby Hnyarly » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:07 am

thedude9351 Wrote:I like the elf now just pale his skin and it will work great

I'll wait after the next release. If you keep thinking I should pale his skin, I'll do it.

Here you have the other elf I'm doing. As you can see, her skin is paler. In the picture you can compare her head with Beth's one.
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The question is: do you like this new model as she is or do you prefer me to adapt the original style to Beth's one? (Bigger eyes and mouth)

BTW, I got the original model from a comic: http://svscomics.com/adult_comics/17950-ninjas.html
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby TedFallenger » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:18 am

Consistency is key. Having artwork traced and cobbled together from a bunch of sources looks really odd in the finished game.

To make a game that gives you that feeling of consistency, each character should look like they're drawn by the same person.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby ByHisBillowingBeard » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:30 am

I far prefer that head to Beth's, personally. Lovely work
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby KaTsuO_O » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:58 am

@TedFallenger you're damn right about that!

Beth looks better because it doesn't look like it is taken straight out of one of those dress up games for children, I'm sorry but it really does and it have been bugging me.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby BlueLight » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:04 am

I like the elf better than beth.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby SamusRaper » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:03 am

I like the elf better to. you should make the ears human ears and use that for the main character.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby warlord42 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:54 am

Elf's better, yep.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby Wessex » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:51 am

My only problem with Beth is that her eyes are to big. Others your idea about her is great. And the elf's art-style wold match Beth much more then.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby dik3y » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:24 pm

Maybe, if you make her eyes smaller, her eyebrows will be lower and they won't be on top of the hair.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby UserN4meTak3n » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:57 pm

Elf head is way better. All she needs is a little bit plumper lips and she is superb.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby banana » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:14 am

Consistency can be maintained by making all elves look one way, while humans like Beth look another way.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby wgunder1 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:44 am

Hnyarly Wrote:
thedude9351 Wrote:I like the elf now just pale his skin and it will work great

I'll wait after the next release. If you keep thinking I should pale his skin, I'll do it.

Here you have the other elf I'm doing. As you can see, her skin is paler. In the picture you can compare her head with Beth's one.
xxx3.png

The question is: do you like this new model as she is or do you prefer me to adapt the original style to Beth's one? (Bigger eyes and mouth)

BTW, I got the original model from a comic: http://svscomics.com/adult_comics/17950-ninjas.html


Well Palcomix would be proud to see their style in your game, In all seriousness you need to establish a consistency in the design of your Characters. For example if you decide to use a style similar to palcomix then you should try to make all of characters including Beth conform to that style.
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby TedFallenger » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:06 am

wgunder1 Wrote:Well Palcomix would be proud to see their style in your game, In all seriousness you need to establish a consistency in the design of your Characters. For example if you decide to use a style similar to palcomix then you should try to make all of characters including Beth conform to that style.


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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby AceDraw » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:55 am

I never expected to be posting here, but you've got me out of lurking.

Sugar, I think such a drastic change in Beth's charater design would be a mistake. Infact the art being rather diffrent from what you find in other games drew me to this game and perked my intrest. It's very much a peice of her personalaty.

The large eyes actualy make it easyer to convey emotion and is a rather comonly used tool in anamation and gaming.

As for the admittingly goofy look from the pics with her viewing said male elf are rather endearing. I look at it and giggle with a smirk. Beth's over all look right now clearly says stuck up. So when she gets the goofy "Brain out yo lunch. Hormornes are in," look, it adds to the flavor of the charater. It also creates a bit of a connection with the player to the charater if such looks can invoke such amusment.

Changing her look to take on someone else's style would cut back on the game's charm.

On a side note, I do love how her unarmed meele attack is just basic untrained kicking. Very humorous. I can just see her walkign up to a humanoid emeny and kickking them in the shin. Then she pulls a crit, kiccking the orc in the crotch causing him to fall to his knees, clutching his "Ego".
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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby Athistaur » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:46 am

Hello,
I created a game that included formulas similar to Sex Realm and want to share some of my experience. (Don't mind my game it's neither in english or in Flash, but it is finished.)
- Whatever you do with the name, keep the "Realm" in it. Just by looking at the name i could tell it's more then just another generic sex animation.
- I have a similar mechanic to increase the slutiness of the heroine and i needed to change it several times before it felt right. You gave the example with the orcs, 15 is a huge value compared to 100 in actual gameplay. While it gives the player indeed the feeling of progress there is the danger that after a few forced orc gangbangs slutiness is already maxed out.
What i found to work great is to work with the following system: two threshold values. The first is the value which kind of slutiness is needed for Beth to enjoy the encounter. Below she considers it as rape. As her slutiness value approaches the first value the negative effects of the rape on her mental health decreases. Above the first threshold she begins to enjoy it and the slutiness increases by the full amount you mentioned. (15 for orcs) The second threshold is the maximum slutiness that can be achieved through this creature, for example 50 for orcs. This means that with a slutiness of 45 after an encounter with orcs Beth would be at a slutiness of no more than 50.
Another thing that was important was to give players a way to estimate which slutiness is needed for a monster for the heroine to enjoy it. Otherwise players have no choice besides try and error. And while try and error may be part of the fun, it's quickly frustrating if you have to try several times and still have no idea if you are prepared for the next time.
- Keep the intro story as it is. I literaly loled and i think it was a nice touch.
- Someone mentioned to allow to change the characteristics of the villain as a means to influence the realm. I think that is a great idea. Don't drop it too fast.
- And last but not least, it is your game and you have to like it. Even if this may sound strange: often players would enjoy a game less if it would include all the features they are begging for.

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Re: Flash Hentai RPG Project

Postby Hnyarly » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:34 am

I've tryied to do some consistency in the styles. So I have the original Beth (B), original elf (D), some adaptation of the elf to Beth's style (C) and some adaptation of Beth to elf's one (A).
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Which one should I pick in both cases? Do you think both can still be improved?
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