Nookie Wrote:
My suggestion; I added some things as well.
BlueLight Wrote:
Okay so you got the bars, tabs ,options up top or north panel. Im guessing if i was to hit option it would pop up with something in the middle of the screen.
Okay how would hitting the buttons to the low left work? they would they interact with the middle panel or make some pop up?
BlueLight Wrote:The invintory it self i didn't even think about but i need to learn about making girds so im going to be doing that I think.
IronEagle Wrote:On a side note, I have meet with many programmers, and 8 out of 10 of them shudder and puke whenever they think of Java and will argue that it is the worse language
IronEagle Wrote:I believe there are a few things you need to consider first:-
1. the gaming algorithms like damage taken and damaged received. it shouldn't just be something gives a set amount of damage.
2. the gui is actually the wrong order. it should go
1.Story, 2. base code (algorithms and the like), 3. gui.
3. Are you sure you want to use Java? It isn't exactly known to be speedy and if speed doesn't matter, python might be a better choice as it is, from what I have heard, easier to understand and learn then Java.
In general, I think you should think through what exactly you want this to be, and choose the proper tools for the job.
On a side note, I have meet with many programmers, and 8 out of 10 of them shudder and puke whenever they think of Java and will argue that it is the worse language
Nookie Wrote:IronEagle Wrote:On a side note, I have meet with many programmers, and 8 out of 10 of them shudder and puke whenever they think of Java and will argue that it is the worse language
...and the reasons are?
IronEagle Wrote:3. Are you sure you want to use Java? It isn't exactly known to be speedy and if speed doesn't matter, python might be a better choice as it is, from what I have heard, easier to understand and learn then Java.
On a side note, I have meet with many programmers, and 8 out of 10 of them shudder and puke whenever they think of Java and will argue that it is the worse language
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Nookie Wrote:IronEagle Wrote:On a side note, I have meet with many programmers, and 8 out of 10 of them shudder and puke whenever they think of Java and will argue that it is the worse language
...and the reasons are?
int[] msg = {72, 101, 108, 108, 111, 32, 119, 111, 114, 108, 100};
BlueLight Wrote:By the way you state things you don't program but you deal with programmers alot. Most likely a work thing. Now you might be a manager...
http://www.paulgraham.com/javacover.htmlPaul Graham Wrote:It's designed for large organizations. Large organizations have different aims from hackers.
IronEagle Wrote:That's wrong. I am a programmer, I just haven't taken a look at python. I deal with programmers a lot because I am part of a programming group. I can't really suggest the languages I like to use because I prefer to program in C, C++, and C#
IronEagle Wrote:This is all I have to say. I do wish you the best of luck with your project, regardless of what tools you choose to make it in.
IronEagle Wrote: I can't really suggest the languages I like to use because I prefer to program in C, C++, and C#, which arn't exactly the best beginner languages. Java is accepted in the industry becausePaul Graham Wrote:It's designed for large organizations. Large organizations have different aims from hackers.
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idFADE Wrote:IronEagle Wrote: I can't really suggest the languages I like to use because I prefer to program in C, C++, and C#, which arn't exactly the best beginner languages. Java is accepted in the industry becausePaul Graham Wrote:It's designed for large organizations. Large organizations have different aims from hackers.
Firstly: A java programmer can understand C# code, and vice verse. They are based on the same principles from what I have seen. So why isn't C# as good as "beginner" language as java?
Secondly: Do you know how easy it is to decompile java class files? It can be very easily done and this has some anti-hacker java programmers upset since they can't control who can access their code. However, hackers and crackers love it. It's easy to modify, all you have to do is decompile it from the bytedata and you get everything in pretty .java files, there are several decompilers available.
No offence towards you IronEagle, but do you really know C#?
BlueLight Wrote:Okay so idFADE first java has a lot of security put in to the compiler so you don't blow up the computer from a bad program. While i believe C based languages don't (Don't know much about C,C#, or C+.)I know with C+ you can ruin your computer if your not careful. Besides there maintained by different company's. Think of it like talking English and German. A lot of words sound the same but the grammar is completely different.
Second
I can't make heads or tails for what your really saying. Are you saying people are decompiling the code or downloading the program from the server it's running at then decompiling it?
Because i can believe decompiling it but not downloading a server application. Besides I think he was talking about security in the program so a cracker can't hack in to your system and steal information.
int[] msg = {72, 101, 108, 108, 111, 32, 119, 111, 114, 108, 100};
idFADE Wrote:BlueLight Wrote:Okay so idFADE first java has a lot of security put in to the compiler so you don't blow up the computer from a bad program. While i believe C based languages don't (Don't know much about C,C#, or C+.)I know with C+ you can ruin your computer if your not careful. Besides there maintained by different company's. Think of it like talking English and German. A lot of words sound the same but the grammar is completely different.
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I can't make heads or tails for what your really saying. Are you saying people are decompiling the code or downloading the program from the server it's running at then decompiling it?
Because i can believe decompiling it but not downloading a server application. Besides I think he was talking about security in the program so a cracker can't hack in to your system and steal information.
I didn't think about it from that aspect, i suppose the fail safes in the JRE makes it easier for beginners, however, C# must have some of those features as well since it's based on the same principles as java from what i seen. C++ and C don't have much fail safes though, as you say. Which makes them harder to learn. To ruin the computer you have to write a very bad program though.
I only know a tiny bit about the process of decompiling java applications, it works like this:
You download a JAR, have the decompiler analyse the .class files stored in the JAR, then it reconstructs them into .java files. I don't know about decompiling directly from the server though.
However, i have heard talk about java programs being easy to exploit as well due to some way the compiler handles the memory. This is only talk i have heard though, im not much for cracking stuff, but i like hackers.
int[] msg = {72, 101, 108, 108, 111, 32, 119, 111, 114, 108, 100};
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