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Postby FurrinGok » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:02 am

So, no disrespect to Humingbird0's pokemon hentai game, I love it and it's awesome, but I'd like to see an adult pokemon/pokemorph game where it plays a lot more like Game Freak's pokemon games. I want to still see both genders of pokemon, be able to battle it out with pokemon who's stats vary from others even at the same levels, and gain experience from fighting even lower level pokemon.

Pictures and sex scenes are cool and all that, but when you're running with all humanoid pokemon you can easily enough just use one scene for each orientation (lesbian, gay, straight, genderless+female, genderless+male, etc) and place the main focus on gameplay itself. If there are separate battle pictures, they should just be accessed through the pokedex and initially seen via inflicting various status conditions (though we should maybe avoid the Horny condition in favor of more natural conditions).

Anybody who takes up this idea is free to their own decisions, of course, but my primary request is that the battle mechanics include at least what already exists in Game Freak's games. Anybody else have opinions on alternate (from Humingbird0's) adult Pokemon games?

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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:29 pm

FurrinGok Wrote:So, no disrespect to Humingbird0's pokemon hentai game, I love it and it's awesome, but I'd like to see an adult pokemon/pokemorph game where it plays a lot more like Game Freak's pokemon games. I want to still see both genders of pokemon, be able to battle it out with pokemon who's stats vary from others even at the same levels, and gain experience from fighting even lower level pokemon.

Pictures and sex scenes are cool and all that, but when you're running with all humanoid pokemon you can easily enough just use one scene for each orientation (lesbian, gay, straight, genderless+female, genderless+male, etc) and place the main focus on gameplay itself. If there are separate battle pictures, they should just be accessed through the pokedex and initially seen via inflicting various status conditions (though we should maybe avoid the Horny condition in favor of more natural conditions).

Anybody who takes up this idea is free to their own decisions, of course, but my primary request is that the battle mechanics include at least what already exists in Game Freak's games. Anybody else have opinions on alternate (from Humingbird0's) adult Pokemon games?

Well for a while I've been wanting to adapt my Pokemon story into a game, but the main problem at the moment is the story itself... not that the story's bad, it's just getting the thing updated because I'm not feeling the urge to write it. All of it is in my head, it's getting that urge to write to get the story going and get it done. And while there's not much going on for the sex, it's pretty much a straight up Pokemon game with some elements changed to the formula.

There is also someone I am following on DeviantART that's also doing a Pokemon game but with his own twist. It, along with my story, is focusing on the sex appeal of the humans than the Pokemon themselves, but it pretty much plays very similarly a regular Pokemon game. It's very early alpha, there's not much out for it just yet, and it is looking pretty good.

Also wouldn't the Horny condition be the infatuation status?
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:51 pm

Anonymouse Wrote:Something like this?
http://offbeatr.com/project/pocket-puss ... 0090199835

Oh yeah, I remember that. I never really heard much about it afterwards, probably because I never really followed it all that well other than Slug's involvement in it. No, I was thinking of this:
http://midnitez-remix.deviantart.com/ar ... -454149105
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:27 am

VintageBass Wrote:Also wouldn't the Horny condition be the infatuation status?

To be perfectly honest I haven't paid as much attention as I want to have to the newer pokemon games.
Anonymouse Wrote:Something like this?
http://offbeatr.com/project/pocket-puss ... 0090199835

Uh, that's entirely female. The thing I wanted was male and female.
VintageBass Wrote:No, I was thinking of this:
http://midnitez-remix.deviantart.com/ar ... -454149105

...That might actually turn out to be something neat, yeah. Surprising it's on Deviant Art, but regardless, I can't find any journals on the project, which means it'll be hard to figure out what it's all about--and no, the video doesn't explain much of anything. Thanks, now that I've got some hopes met, I'll be looking forward to seeing if an Anthro game is made to closer fit my picky wants.

It's not surprising that there's another pokemon game based on being erotic, but if there's another game that's based on being erotic with anthro "pokemorphs," ah, well, that would be the best surprise ever.

Please don't consider this being ungrateful, I am happy, it's just the closer the better~
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:05 pm

FurrinGok Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Also wouldn't the Horny condition be the infatuation status?

To be perfectly honest I haven't paid as much attention as I want to have to the newer pokemon games.

Infatuation has been around ever since Attract is a move. It's just that it's a status that doesn't have a little thing to tell you your Pokemon has it.

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VintageBass Wrote:No, I was thinking of this:
http://midnitez-remix.deviantart.com/ar ... -454149105

...That might actually turn out to be something neat, yeah. Surprising it's on Deviant Art, but regardless, I can't find any journals on the project, which means it'll be hard to figure out what it's all about--and no, the video doesn't explain much of anything. Thanks, now that I've got some hopes met, I'll be looking forward to seeing if an Anthro game is made to closer fit my picky wants.

I was just providing an example of it and at least it is something. There are journals about it, even some of very old artwork based on previous versions of it, and while I know there two Pokemon that do have a sort of anthro look to them, they are female. But considering that there's a Pokedex involved, who knows what else could get that sort of treatment...

Plus there are anthro sharks, with the males going commando and really packing the heat (and the balls from the censored version)

FurrinGok Wrote:It's not surprising that there's another pokemon game based on being erotic, but if there's another game that's based on being erotic with anthro "pokemorphs," ah, well, that would be the best surprise ever.

Yeah the real hard part is finding stuff that contains male morphs to use for the game. I'm sure there's going to be someone that could work towards making that sort of game, even if we have to make it ourselves.

FurrinGok Wrote:Please don't consider this being ungrateful, I am happy, it's just the closer the better~

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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:14 pm

There is a pokemorph game with males, but it's all shota. Kind of a serious turn off.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:08 am

FurrinGok Wrote:There is a pokemorph game with males, but it's all shota. Kind of a serious turn off.

All shota? How is that even possible? I get that some of them could fall into that category, but all? Like how hard is it to keep some male Pokemon adult? I get it's a kink and all, but not everyone is going to be into the same thing. Then again I never even heard of shota Pokemorphs before...

Still kinda liking my own idea, even if it doesn't involve sex for my lead.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:17 pm

VintageBass Wrote:All shota? How is that even possible? I get that some of them could fall into that category, but all? Like how hard is it to keep some male Pokemon adult? I get it's a kink and all, but not everyone is going to be into the same thing. Then again I never even heard of shota Pokemorphs before...

Go to e621 and search for "flash ivysaur pokemorph" there are two in there, one of which is the game I'm talking about.

VintageBass Wrote:Still kinda liking my own idea, even if it doesn't involve sex for my lead.

Mind letting us in on what your idea is? I did say other ideas for pokemon games are welcome here.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:48 pm

FurrinGok Wrote:Go to e621 and search for "flash ivysaur pokemorph" there are two in there, one of which is the game I'm talking about.

... That's not really much do it, they're just shota boys that share names. Nothing really that creative done at all. And I could complain about the whole Safari Zone itself, but that seems like a wasted effort.

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VintageBass Wrote:Still kinda liking my own idea, even if it doesn't involve sex for my lead.

Mind letting us in on what your idea is? I did say other ideas for pokemon games are welcome here.

Pretty much is an adaptation of my Pokemon story I have going on FanFiction.net, where's its about a nudist traveling Kanto wanting to be Champion, and that's about it, at least for now. I still need to get the story going because I really want to get it done in my lifetime, but I kinda like the idea of portraying it in game form kinda like in the style of Ash Grey Version, where that's based more on the anime than the original Yellow version.

But the set-up is simple: you play as a nudist trainer from Cinnabar, you pick your Pokemon and you go across Kanto battling the Gym Leaders and later the Elite Four. There is also no Team to fight again, except for a small group of hunters, and there is a bit of line change-up for the Gym Leaders because I'm basing this more on the anime than the games, and I did introduce a Strip Battle. Think about it if you will. Really it's not about the sex appeal, but rather more or less about the appreciation of the nude figure and that anyone could become Champion. Although there is one thing in the story that I got coming up in the next chapter that does deal in sex... yeah I rather not go into full detail about that.

But yeah that's kinda my idea about a Pokemon game that does have some sex appeal but still plays like a normal Pokemon game. There could be options to have pokephilla or maybe some anthros, but primary the main story is about one nude trainer's journey to become the best like no other nudist has ever done before.

That and maybe I can also do a PMD game involving pokemorphs. That would be an interesting idea, plus hey there's options for yaoi, straight, yuri and everything in between! :3
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:19 am

VintageBass Wrote:there is a bit of line change-up for the Gym Leaders because I'm basing this more on the anime than the games

Y'know, I wasn't even thinking about it, but the way they handle gyms is a pet peeve of mine. According to the lore, all gym leaders are supposed to be incredibly tough, moreso than any random trainer you'd come across, and yet, in the game and in the anime, the gym leaders are basically only stronger than the local trainers--once you beat them and go to the next town, people are even stronger. I would love to see a game where you can explore most of the cities from the getgo and have to form a team and level them up before you can even beat your first gym leader... Although, that's a separate vein entirely than what I'm asking for in the OP. There's a point to the games having a sense of linearity.

VintageBass Wrote:That and maybe I can also do a PMD game involving pokemorphs. That would be an interesting idea, plus hey there's options for yaoi, straight, yuri and everything in between! :3

Oh, man. I hadn't even thought of a PMD using pokemorphs... That could totally work, since the way PMDs work is that every pokemon shows up on the field with their own sprites, facing every direction. It's also something that (somewhat) happened in the anime--There was an episode where a human kid does get turned into a pokemon and forms a Rescue Team and all that jazz. Of course, it's outside the canon of the rest of the anime, but it's there.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:35 am

FurrinGok Wrote:Y'know, I wasn't even thinking about it, but the way they handle gyms is a pet peeve of mine. According to the lore, all gym leaders are supposed to be incredibly tough, moreso than any random trainer you'd come across, and yet, in the game and in the anime, the gym leaders are basically only stronger than the local trainers--once you beat them and go to the next town, people are even stronger. I would love to see a game where you can explore most of the cities from the getgo and have to form a team and level them up before you can even beat your first gym leader... Although, that's a separate vein entirely than what I'm asking for in the OP. There's a point to the games having a sense of linearity.

If I remember right, in the Origins anime it does appear that Gym Leaders do have Pokemon on stand-by and will call out certain Pokemon depending on the Trainer's strength. Granted it took this long to learn that and I do like the concept (which I want to do in my own story, heck Viridian is the first Gym when that's usually the last one).

FurrinGok Wrote:Oh, man. I hadn't even thought of a PMD using pokemorphs... That could totally work, since the way PMDs work is that every pokemon shows up on the field with their own sprites, facing every direction. It's also something that (somewhat) happened in the anime--There was an episode where a human kid does get turned into a pokemon and forms a Rescue Team and all that jazz. Of course, it's outside the canon of the rest of the anime, but it's there.

Heck my idea has the player being from the world itself, not being previously a human because I like to play against the norm. Otherwise the plot I do have plays more to the Explorers games, at least in terms of plot, otherwise is a bit original and there's plenty of opportunities to have sexy fun with the PMD format. :3
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:59 am

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FurrinGok Wrote:Oh, man. I hadn't even thought of a PMD using pokemorphs... That could totally work, since the way PMDs work is that every pokemon shows up on the field with their own sprites, facing every direction. It's also something that (somewhat) happened in the anime--There was an episode where a human kid does get turned into a pokemon and forms a Rescue Team and all that jazz. Of course, it's outside the canon of the rest of the anime, but it's there.

Heck my idea has the player being from the world itself, not being previously a human because I like to play against the norm. Otherwise the plot I do have plays more to the Explorers games, at least in terms of plot, otherwise is a bit original and there's plenty of opportunities to have sexy fun with the PMD format. :3

You know... Explorers of Sky didn't suggest anything very directly, but it just gave the feel that there were feelings between Sunflora and Bidoof. It would be fun to see a game that actually intentionally brings stuff like that up and takes it into relationships.
You're also leaving me ever curious as to what your ideas are, Vintage.


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FurrinGok Wrote:Y'know, I wasn't even thinking about it, but the way they handle gyms is a pet peeve of mine. According to the lore, all gym leaders are supposed to be incredibly tough, moreso than any random trainer you'd come across, and yet, in the game and in the anime, the gym leaders are basically only stronger than the local trainers--once you beat them and go to the next town, people are even stronger. I would love to see a game where you can explore most of the cities from the getgo and have to form a team and level them up before you can even beat your first gym leader... Although, that's a separate vein entirely than what I'm asking for in the OP. There's a point to the games having a sense of linearity.

If I remember right, in the Origins anime it does appear that Gym Leaders do have Pokemon on stand-by and will call out certain Pokemon depending on the Trainer's strength. Granted it took this long to learn that and I do like the concept (which I want to do in my own story, heck Viridian is the first Gym when that's usually the last one).

So, like, the trainer can go back and challenge old gyms only to find they have a stronger team? That would be very neat, actually.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby VintageBass » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:28 am

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VintageBass Wrote:Heck my idea has the player being from the world itself, not being previously a human because I like to play against the norm. Otherwise the plot I do have plays more to the Explorers games, at least in terms of plot, otherwise is a bit original and there's plenty of opportunities to have sexy fun with the PMD format. :3

You know... Explorers of Sky didn't suggest anything very directly, but it just gave the feel that there were feelings between Sunflora and Bidoof. It would be fun to see a game that actually intentionally brings stuff like that up and takes it into relationships.
You're also leaving me ever curious as to what your ideas are, Vintage.

Huh, I never thought of that before. Well I guess that could be possible as well, taking what is already there in canon and put our own spin on it, even going deeper into their relationship. With the one I have in mind, there is a bit of lesbianism for a certain pair of Pokemon I have, but I never really quite set in stone just yet, but hoo boy the history I have for them is going to be interesting~!

As for my ideas, I can always share them privately for the time being. I don't exactly want to give away everything just yet, partly I still need planning done and some things can change over time.

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VintageBass Wrote:If I remember right, in the Origins anime it does appear that Gym Leaders do have Pokemon on stand-by and will call out certain Pokemon depending on the Trainer's strength. Granted it took this long to learn that and I do like the concept (which I want to do in my own story, heck Viridian is the first Gym when that's usually the last one).

So, like, the trainer can go back and challenge old gyms only to find they have a stronger team? That would be very neat, actually.

No, it's actually when Brock asked about Red's badge amount, Red said he had none. Brock then walks over to a wall where there are some Pokemon and he takes out Geodude and Onix. It's likely that he does have extra Pokemon that he uses depending on how many badges a Trainer has. Heck Giovanni even skips out on the issued Pokemon and goes for more personal ones, inside Ultra Balls no less.

But there is stuff where you can re-battle the Gym Leaders in the games, mostly in Gen IV and up, but only in special places. And they do have stronger Pokemon as well, even as getting stronger ones in the Battle Chateau in X & Y thanks to the Wits of Challenge. Just throwing out other options where Gym Leaders can be stronger than the local Pokemon, even if it needs something else to explain the reasoning for the lower level Pokemon.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby harryp21 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:39 am

FurrinGok Wrote:So, no disrespect to Humingbird0's pokemon hentai game, I love it and it's awesome, but I'd like to see an adult pokemon/pokemorph game where it plays a lot more like Game Freak's pokemon games. I want to still see both genders of pokemon, be able to battle it out with pokemon who's stats vary from others even at the same levels, and gain experience from fighting even lower level pokemon.

Pictures and sex scenes are cool and all that, but when you're running with all humanoid pokemon you can easily enough just use one scene for each orientation (lesbian, gay, straight, genderless+female, genderless+male, etc) and place the main focus on gameplay itself. If there are separate battle pictures, they should just be accessed through the pokedex and initially seen via inflicting various status conditions (though we should maybe avoid the Horny condition in favor of more natural conditions).

Anybody who takes up this idea is free to their own decisions, of course, but my primary request is that the battle mechanics include at least what already exists in Game Freak's games. Anybody else have opinions on alternate (from Humingbird0's) adult Pokemon games?

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personaly i disagree aldo i think it is strange there are so few pokeballs to get in the pokemon game i am playing you dont seem to be able to buy them anyware while they are as far as my understanding goes are only suposed to be stolen in viridian city the lack of pokeballs is disapointing as i am about to face the second gym with only two pokemon one a flying type the second an electric besides the fact i have wasted 2 pokeballs on a weak free pokemon having it weakend witch was an onyx

if you only can only gain 4 pokeballs for every 3 citys you visit i am about to quit the game a pokemon game like that earns in my opinion from 1 to 10 even a zero atleast keep it a bit more realistic to the orginal games rather then having a potion fetish

having them in every store is nonense especialy after pweter city make that pokeballs in my opinion besides that draw site a good game albeit the fact i am also disapointed that you dont gain any xp from defeating pokemon with are lower levels besides a tentacool should cause less damage on a normal type rather than being able to remove half the health witch would have been possible and if not believable was the char a fire type trainer
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

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harryp21 Wrote:personaly i disagree aldo i think it is strange there are so few pokeballs to get in the pokemon game i am playing you dont seem to be able to buy them anyware while they are as far as my understanding goes are only suposed to be stolen in viridian city the lack of pokeballs is disapointing as i am about to face the second gym with only two pokemon one a flying type the second an electric besides the fact i have wasted 2 pokeballs on a weak free pokemon having it weakend witch was an onyx

if you only can only gain 4 pokeballs for every 3 citys you visit i am about to quit the game a pokemon game like that earns in my opinion from 1 to 10 even a zero atleast keep it a bit more realistic to the orginal games rather then having a potion fetish

having them in every store is nonense especialy after pweter city make that pokeballs in my opinion besides that draw site a good game albeit the fact i am also disapointed that you dont gain any xp from defeating pokemon with are lower levels besides a tentacool should cause less damage on a normal type rather than being able to remove half the health witch would have been possible and if not believable was the char a fire type trainer

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You do understand that this is talking about the idea of using anthro Pokemon in battle instead of regular Pokemon, not about the matter of Pokeballs. The idea suggested is to have a Pokemon game that has Pokemorphs be the center of attention while still having the core aspect of a mainstream Pokemon. That way, you can have the sex appeal of these anthro Pokemon and play it like a normal game. And I even suggested an idea of a PMD game that can use anthros and works perfectly. What is this with balls? I don't recall having problems getting them, plus I can capture more Pokemon than needed before the first Gym.
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby harryp21 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:06 am

VintageBass Wrote:
harryp21 Wrote:personaly i disagree aldo i think it is strange there are so few pokeballs to get in the pokemon game i am playing you dont seem to be able to buy them anyware while they are as far as my understanding goes are only suposed to be stolen in viridian city the lack of pokeballs is disapointing as i am about to face the second gym with only two pokemon one a flying type the second an electric besides the fact i have wasted 2 pokeballs on a weak free pokemon having it weakend witch was an onyx

if you only can only gain 4 pokeballs for every 3 citys you visit i am about to quit the game a pokemon game like that earns in my opinion from 1 to 10 even a zero atleast keep it a bit more realistic to the orginal games rather then having a potion fetish

having them in every store is nonense especialy after pweter city make that pokeballs in my opinion besides that draw site a good game albeit the fact i am also disapointed that you dont gain any xp from defeating pokemon with are lower levels besides a tentacool should cause less damage on a normal type rather than being able to remove half the health witch would have been possible and if not believable was the char a fire type trainer

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You do understand that this is talking about the idea of using anthro Pokemon in battle instead of regular Pokemon, not about the matter of Pokeballs. The idea suggested is to have a Pokemon game that has Pokemorphs be the center of attention while still having the core aspect of a mainstream Pokemon. That way, you can have the sex appeal of these anthro Pokemon and play it like a normal game. And I even suggested an idea of a PMD game that can use anthros and works perfectly. What is this with balls? I don't recall having problems getting them, plus I can capture more Pokemon than needed before the first Gym.


yes found out to late tought it was about the same pokemon hentai game as i have downloaded yet it was not albeit that some images look al like the places dont match up witch plays in kanto

have already looked wheter my post could be removed witch it cant otherwise i would have done so my mistake
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Re: Pokemon mechanics using pokemon game

Postby FurrinGok » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:37 am

Man, this is a topic for discussion of a nonexistant, "I wish it existed" game. If you want to talk and complain about the existing game, please use that game's thread for it.

A lack of pokeballs is a rather serious problem, though, I agree. I don't feel like a game should be missing its pokeballs, unless it's for the sake of story progress and they get placed back in right after that bit of story, like how you have to go to the next town and then back to your first town to deliver something to the PC's mother before the second town gets pokeballs.
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