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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby VintageBass » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:50 pm

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:I like the Bumpties in this game. But I can't help thinking to myself that VintageBass picked a bad time to leave the team. He missed the reveal of his design.

Nah, I'm still subscribing to this so I would know what's being added. I'm just stepping out to focus on other things, mainly a lot of my own projects as I'm really in need to complete some chapters and a request for someone on DA.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Correct. And he was like a close friend to me. I was talking to him everyday on SK. I remember we were talking with enthusiasm about design, the use of vectors and point optimization, the Klown Kar he was making...

Point optimization? I'm not really that caring for that. I'm just happy that I can draw in Illustrator. As for the Clown Car, it's technically done, it just needs the faces for different angles, and the damaged face when Peach hits Bowser.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:...the Cinnebar story he is writing (although it appears he doesnt like ENF theme so much)

Yeah part of that isn't that I don't like it, although I'm not much on contrived reasons to embarrass a girl, I'm all for equality. And as I mentioned, the story is not about embarrassing my girl, it's about a journey of one nude girl achieving a goal that hasn't been heard of, and really this is a first of its kind stories in that particular fandom. Having her be embarrassed by being naked all the time is counter-productive to what I'm going for, defeats her purpose of her journey and really sticking with that for what is a long walk across one region to then end up in a public tournament is just about as interesting as sticking with the current joke of "OMG, she's nekkid!"

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I think that was because I wanted to add Cherbil (I dont know why that is so bad).

Quiz and I explained why we don't like the idea, with his being that it doesn't belong due to it being from another dimension and really doesn't fit in with the current setting, and I didn't want it in just because I thought it would, all in good fun (that and it was perfectly easy to draw, just a couple of circles, that's it). I just want to get some practice in and see if I can match the style from the games, that's it!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I want to make Peach suck and play with his balls (which will be his butt at the same time).

And that's fine. I just don't like the change that you made to it. It just look wrong having it look like a micro penis! That wasn't what it was in the game! I do like that it is back to what it was originally, so at least I'm happy with that.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Its funny that people really dont understand the other. See, I've made 7 scenes this week. Just imagine if I just waited for everyone to catch up, or to REALLY talk about the game, all the time I was in SK. I might make just 2 per week or even less. Why? Because I am REALLY giving my best to this project.

Either that or you're just trying to play catch up so that you can get this done faster so this can be done and over with, at least what is the meat of this game. It's just lacking the structure, like there's no real care going into this like before. Nowadays there's a constant update with all of these features, and before there was time and effort going into this. So what happened to this quality? It's all about quantity and frankly, I just can't care about all of this. I just want a game, not 20 scenes for one creature, or useless add-ons that I'm never going to use at all.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Moreover, people say: 'this is not so nice', 'that dialogue is bad', but they dont point out where exactly the problem is and the solutions. Its easy to say something is not that great then go away.

It's definitely going to be some hard work trying to say what we want fixing in the game. Criticism is a bitter pill to swallow, and I should know. Yes the dialogue sucks hard, there are some questionable things that are added without any real backing behind it, and it feels like it is being rushed. I would be happy to explain everything, but first you need to stop, listen to what we have to say is wrong, and go back and fix the problems. There's no rush to get this done. There really isn't. There's no time limit or deadline, you're just want to get things done to make up the lack of work we're not doing.

Just slow things down and really relax. I'm sure people will understand that you need a break from this game, because the few of us are worry about your health and working on this game is just making you feel worse.

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:EDIT: I did a little research on snakes and they do have dicks. It's called a "hemipenis". What's also interesting is that they have two of them. The plural for them is "hemipenes".

Yes, that's why it's called a hemipenis, because there's two penises. :P
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:28 pm

I was looking at the past.... version 1.0j..... MAY 2012 (22 months ago, that is, 660 days, working almost everyday until now). Let's see what we got in that time:

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

1.0j:
- 4 peach poses (standing, walking, jumping, and swimming).
- 5 hand poses, like closed and grabbing something,
- 3 levels.
- 23 sex scenes (1 of them was the Morton one), all made by Blargh.
- 5 interactive creatures with scenes (goombas, koopas, bloopers, bobombs and Morton).
- Peach and Fire Peach characters
- 2 outfits
- 1 toad house building
- no features like a proper prologue, horny bar, custom outfits like garter, stockings and shoes, running arrows, worldmaps, bonus levels and tons more. Powerups were just a steady icon in the ground (no living mushrooms walking around). No powerups coming from broken blocks. Breaking blocks were still new (Peach could even activate them with her shoes, not only her head, due to the primitive code)
- no puzzles or interactive dialogues aside of Chancellor and Morton non-interactive dialogues. Toads also didnt interact. Their unicque phrases just showed up when Peach passed across them.

We now have:
- 58 poses (sitting down, knocked down (I dont call 'dying'), backside, flying, laying down, throwing vegetables...)
- 18 hand poses, two of them are 'ILY', that is, masturbating hands.
- 41 levels (with dozens of remade/resampled Mario music).
- 158 sex scenes (+ 20 Peach only scenes) = 178.
- 28 interactive creatures (counting Toads, Zess, Bub-bulber, Yoshi, Charlieton and Mario), not counting non-sexual like Thwomps, Sparklies, etc.
- 6 characters: Peach, Fire Peach, Tanned Peach, Playshapes Peach, Daisy and Rosalina
- 23 outfits
- 15 or more toad house buildings/styles and tons of new art.
- almost all features we can imagine, like the ability to interact with objects like the bed, windows, and doors, the worldmap, buying items from Charlieton, 999 coin support, counting days (in the main screen), the possibility to explore a given level again, earthquakes (like in palace levels), a better DO-OVER system, invencibility, INVISIBILITY, 'stark naked' situations due to the ability to remove crown/earrings, more cum options (and a bukake state), 4 belly sizes, nails (and colors) support, showers she can use, embarassing poses according to certain situations, Peach can be drunk, many pipe positions (entering from the side, 'getting spurted' out of another one, falling from an upside-down one), vases, a new camera engine with boundary code (you now notice the camera stops in certain confined places), moving background and foreground perspectives (giving a more 3d fell, like in level 4-4), more zoom options, frame-skip key ('/' in the keypad) to give more performance, P-blocks (which turn blocks to coins), an inventory like SMB3, load/save game support, except 'P' powerup (which would make her fly), ground pound, the cape, and maybe 2 others. The scepter, Kissing feature, Penguin powerup throwing ice balls, Nurse throwing pills and HammerBros throwing hammers still being made.

People (inside and outside the team) really DONT IMAGINE how many times I needed to test the above to make them bug-free and without slowdowns.
And here is what I was saying in that time:
"After making 1.0j, I was getting personal troubles in life, with needs to cure a spine disease (a benign one). Moreover, I was telling myself: "I think its enough from my side, I may stop developing the game). The game would be 'completed' with only those 3 levels. But.... something happened (inner happiness? A dream?) and gave me hope to continue".

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Hello there, Vintage!

VintageBass Wrote:Point optimization? I'm not really that caring for that. I'm just happy that I can draw in Illustrator. As for the Clown Car, it's technically done, it just needs the faces for different angles, and the damaged face when Peach hits Bowser.

Great! Please take your time.

VintageBass Wrote:Yeah part of that isn't that I don't like it, although I'm not much on contrived reasons to embarrass a girl, I'm all for equality. And as I mentioned, the story is not about embarrassing my girl, it's about a journey of one nude girl achieving a goal that hasn't been heard of, and really this is a first of its kind stories in that particular fandom. Having her be embarrassed by being naked all the time is counter-productive to what I'm going for, defeats her purpose of her journey and really sticking with that for what is a long walk across one region to then end up in a public tournament is just about as interesting as sticking with the current joke of "OMG, she's nekkid!

Yes, I understood that part. Its like it was entirely natural. A nude beach. If I was going to make a story like this, I would add some sauce of 'OMG' because it gives some taste to the story. It make us see there are people noticing something explicit that can arouse some (in the story), and the readers too. But again, the plot you created is great, it serves for other feelings.

VintageBass Wrote:Quiz and I explained why we don't like the idea, with his being that it doesn't belong due to it being from another dimension and really doesn't fit in with the current setting,

Now we're talking. Lets go, lets see my point of view.
Cherbil model is arousing and sexy. He appears to be....a ball with testicles, or a big butt (I can make scenes regarding them both, so that would be his testicles AND butt at the same time).
Cherbil is also a great adornment for icy levels, because he's like a christmas tree toy, aside of being cute, a live puppy. And he's a Mario world character, so I am not just putting foreign enemies all of a sudden.
Those are my current points I defend.
Also, Toyloli and the other members of the team were neutral to his addition.
Finally, his model and 1 scene with him and Peach might take like 5kbytes in the game or even less.

VintageBass Wrote:...and I didn't want it in just because I thought it would, all in good fun (that and it was perfectly easy to draw, just a couple of circles, that's it). I just want to get some practice in and see if I can match the style from the games, that's it!

So, you can practice more, and if you let him better, its easy to replace his art ;) But he's already cute, and I told you, I was using the modified one (dick-like body) TEMPORARILY then I rollback to the way you depicted (100%) and its the current.

Update 2.1.2 (11th february 2014)
...
- Cosmetic changes, like Cherbil returning to its original shape (rounder) and small change to jump animation (she wont be 'jumping in place' in certain situations like when she is embarassed).
(you might have skipped that).

VintageBass Wrote:And that's fine (butt and balls). I just don't like the change that you made to it

He's already the default, since weeks ago. You just havent checked the game. In SK, I said that already. So you just 'added that up to your snowball' without noticing it was already changed back.

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VintageBass Wrote:Either that or you're just trying to play catch up so that you can get this done faster so this can be done and over with, at least what is the meat of this game. It's just lacking the structure, like there's no real care going into this like before. Nowadays there's a constant update with all of these features, and before there was time and effort going into this. So what happened to this quality? It's all about quantity and frankly, I just can't care about all of this. I just want a game, not 20 scenes for one creature, or useless add-ons that I'm never going to use at all.

Enlist the 'useless' add-ons please. If you mean the Belly, I'll hit you character with my virtual bat! :evil:
As about quality, of course we need to be better and better. An area I see it requires change is the DIALOGUES. We have the GOOMBA and TOADSWORTH ones in the spreadsheet, and THEY'RE EXPECTED to be added.

VintageBass Wrote:It's definitely going to be some hard work trying to say what we want fixing in the game. Criticism is a bitter pill to swallow, and I should know. Yes the dialogue sucks hard, there are some questionable things that are added without any real backing behind it, and it feels like it is being rushed. I would be happy to explain everything, but first you need to stop, listen to what we have to say is wrong, and go back and fix the problems.

I am listening as always. If you guys just said before 'Hey Ivan, STOP, we're ready to tell you all about what we see as needing changes. Ready'? Ivan: 'ok lets go'.
Or you guys just need to email me. You all didnt have to just let the 'snow ball' increase until explosion. I am all ears.
As about the dialog, want to know the reality? If nobody helps me, I wont be updating the dialogues, because I am all alone into this and I am not a scripter.

VintageBass Wrote:There's no rush to get this done. There really isn't. There's no time limit or deadline, you're just want to get things done to make up the lack of work we're not doing.

See? You do know there are no rushes. You all just havent communicated well, thinking that I was like a robot in SK.

VintageBass Wrote:Just slow things down and really relax. I'm sure people will understand that you need a break from this game, because the few of us are worry about your health and working on this game is just making you feel worse.

Now, that is a truth. But I am kind of guy who could 'wear off' quickly and risk this game of being on hiatus. I really need like 30 days of pure vacation, but I dont know my reactions after it. Its like getting used to play chess. I can get sharp into it and win most tournaments. If I stop for a while, there is a risk I need to start from the beginning. The same with sports. I used to jog 15 miles in a row. Then I stayed 2 months away. Now I dont get more than 5 miles. The same with the game. But yes, I will slow down. Just be sure that I can discuss, and be more 'multitask' even in the current pace.

VintageBass Wrote:Yes, that's why it's called a hemipenis, because there's two penises. :P

The correct would be 'doublepenis.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby VintageBass » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:43 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Yeah part of that isn't that I don't like it, although I'm not much on contrived reasons to embarrass a girl, I'm all for equality. And as I mentioned, the story is not about embarrassing my girl, it's about a journey of one nude girl achieving a goal that hasn't been heard of, and really this is a first of its kind stories in that particular fandom. Having her be embarrassed by being naked all the time is counter-productive to what I'm going for, defeats her purpose of her journey and really sticking with that for what is a long walk across one region to then end up in a public tournament is just about as interesting as sticking with the current joke of "OMG, she's nekkid!

Yes, I understood that part. Its like it was entirely natural. A nude beach. If I were going to make a story like this, I would add some sauce of 'OMG' because it gives some taste to the story. It make us see there are people noticing something explicit that can arouse some (in the story), and the readers too. But again, the plot you created is great, it serves for other feelings.

I really don't have to do that. Considering that the title is enough to attract people like flies to a light. I can have her do just normal stuff and people will be fapping. Otherwise I do have my moments, but they're more towards building my character, not humiliating her. If I wanted to, I'll put her into some fancy clothes and do whatever. :P

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Now we're talking. Lets go, lets see my point of view.
Cherbil model is arousing and sexy. He appears to be....a ball with testicles, or a big butt (I want to make both, so that would be his testicles AND butt at the same time).

Testicles sexy? I get that big balls are always get for sex, because large sperm count, but just them alone is... not as really sastifying on the eyes as say a big butt, and that's something I can't lie, my others brothers can't deny... and I'll stop there. :D

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Cherbil is also a great adornment for icy levels, because he's like a christmas tree toy, aside of being cute, like a puppy.

Well if you got a blue and green one, sure they'll be nice and adds some color. And I can't deny that they do look cute, but that's not really that qualifies to stay.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And he's a Mario world character, so I am not just putting foreigh enemies all of a sudden.

He's from another dimension. Sure he's a part of the same universe, but another dimension. The same dimension as some of the other characters from SPM, so what's not stopping the other creatures from there from pouring into this world?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Also, Toyloli and the other members of the team were neutral to this fact.

Just because they haven't said a thing or are just neutral on its doesn't mean it's green lights for you to add.

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VintageBass Wrote:He's like an adornment from and I didn't want it in just because I thought it would...

Whoa, whoa, time out! I did not say that! Why are you changing what I'm saying? If you're going to quote me, don't add in anything that I didn't say in my post! Although looking back at my post, terrible grammar is terrible.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:(that and it was perfectly easy to draw, just a couple of circles, that's it). I just want to get some practice in and see if I can match the style from the games, that's it!

So, you can practice more, and if you let him better, its easy to replace his art ;) But he's already cute, and I told you, I were using the modified one (dick-like body)

It went from being cute to "oh my god, what is this abomination?!" I thought we weren't going to turn things into penises and vaginas?

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VintageBass Wrote:And that's fine. I just don't like the change that you made to it

He's already the default, since weeks ago. You just havent checked the game. In SK, I said that already. So you just 'added that up to your snowball' without noticing it was already changed back.

And if you read the rest of that sentence, I've said that I like that he's back to normal. I noticed that he's back, and I'm glad that it's for the best.
Also stop editing my quotes!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Enlist the 'useless' add-ons please. If you mean the Belly, I'll hit you with my bat! :evil:

I got bats as well. Even though they are foam, I can still dual-wield those suckers and if it comes to worse, I got a metal one waiting in the garage. So, I guess we're on even grounds. Also, no, bellies aren't a real issue unless they just look wonky on Peach, which I can't say because I have no idea what they look like since I haven't bothered messing with that feature in the game, so I really can't say anything about that.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:As about quality, of course we need to be better and better. An area I see it requires change is the DIALOGUES. We have the GOOMBA and TOADSWORTH ones in the spreadsheet, and THEY'RE EXPECTED to be added.

And yet we got new scenes that are coming out with your dialogue and people are getting put off by it... well, at least the ones that do care about reading something sexy. I'm not sure about the others, considering that they're more interested in the actions than the words, because that's how it goes. Actions speak louder than words. But when are they expected to go in, because I could see more interest in fixing Toadsworth's dialogue and those who are connected to the plot than any of the scenes, besides maybe the Koopalings.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I am listening as always. If you guys just said before 'Hey Ivan, STOP, we're ready to tell you all about what we see as needing changes. Ready'? Ivan: 'ok lets go'.
Or you guys just need to email me. You all didnt have to just let the 'snow ball' increase until explosion. I am all ears.

But are you really listening to us and not the large voices? It kinda feels like we're a part of the vocal minority, those who have a strong opinion against some of the stuff you're adding, while you got this large audience with far much demands and you want to satisfy each and everyone of them, becoming far much louder than we are. Some of these excuses aren't going to play much longer, you will need to listen to us. Hopefully it'll be soon...

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:As about the dialog, want to know the reality? If nobody helps me, I wont be updating the dialogues, because I am all alone into this and I am not a scripter.

OK, that answers my above question. Plus you're also making art and coding all of this, which has to be stressful on you. It's bad enough that as a creator I have my own burnout periods, but this is ridiculous! Of course I should be jealous that you're not getting that burn out, but at the same time I'm worried about that. At least if you do, the game will receive a break and perhaps we can examine the problems that it currently has and do something to fix and improve it.

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VintageBass Wrote:There's no rush to get this done. There really isn't. There's no time limit or deadline, you're just want to get things done to make up the lack of work we're not doing.

See? You do know there are no rushes. You all just havent communicated well, thinking that I was like a robot in SK.

How can we communicate if we feel like our voices aren't being heard? I guess it could be that with all of these people coming here and listing off what they want into the game, it can be difficult to keep up with all of the demands and those who are really putting their effort into making this fun.

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VintageBass Wrote:Just slow things down and really relax. I'm sure people will understand that you need a break from this game, because the few of us are worry about your health and working on this game is just making you feel worse.

Now, that is a truth. But I am kind of guy who could 'wear off' quickly and risk this game of being on hiatus. I really need like 30 days of pure vacation, but I dont know my reactions after it.

Two years, that's how long I've been away from one of my successful fan-fics, all because of some terrible crap that happened to me during that time. Not to mentioned I had some terrible blockage, struggling to get what I want to get onto the screen, and I lost all of my data because of a computer virus. I went through two computers, and yet I finally came back swinging, putting an end to the long awaited final battle and an epilogue to that story. And it followed what I originally planned for that chapter those two years and I still came in swinging a home run.

Sure you may not have the same success I had, considering the very nature of fan-fiction, but considering that we both have good material on our hands, it's bound to have the same quality to it. Heck, some times that could be a difference as, like I said, what I had originally planned was the same but the quality of the writing has improved during the time. A break really is great! Sure two years seems like a long time, but it's surely great to finally complete it and bring an end to such a great story. Maybe it could work for you, but like you said, how will you feel about being away from all of this?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Its like getting used to play chess. I can get sharp into it and win most tournaments. If I stop for a while, there is a risk I need to start from the beginning. The same with sports. I used to jog 15 miles in a row. Then I stayed 2 months away. Now I dont get more than 5 miles. The same with the game. But yes, I will slow down.

Uh, chess is all about trying to figure out what your opponent's next move is, staying ahead of them and really true strategy. A break isn't like chess. Yes there is planning involve, but really it doesn't need to be all about thinking. It's just a moment to allow your brain to relax from all this thinking and take a moment to breathe. It constantly running is bound to cause problems down the line.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Just be sure that I can discuss, and be more 'multitask' even in the current pace.

No, don't multitask. Not everyone is capable of performing such a feat. It's good that you are, but some jobs are better off to the others.

VintageBass Wrote:Yes, that's why it's called a hemipenis, because there's two penises. :P

The correct would be 'doublepenis.[/quote]
No, it's a hemi-penis. Otherwise I don't want to make a meme joke.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:15 pm

VintageBass Wrote:I really don't have to do that. Considering that the title is enough to attract people like flies to a light. I can have her do just normal stuff and people will be fapping. Otherwise I do have my moments, but they're more towards building my character, not humiliating her.

Remember, I dont regard 'ENF' themes as being 'humiliation', but rather to make her 'open' her inner desires to be naked and be fucked in unpredicted areas and moments, like an ehxibitionist, or just a girl who ends up in trouble, but she ends up loving it.

In all matters regarding ENF, I make it clear people respect her (like 'WHAT IS ENF' title in page 1 of this thread).

VintageBass Wrote:If I wanted to, I'll put her into some fancy clothes and do whatever. :P

I know it.

VintageBass Wrote:Testicles sexy? I get that big balls are always get for sex, because large sperm count, but just them alone is... not as really sastifying on the eyes as say a big butt, and that's something I can't lie, my others brothers can't deny... and I'll stop there. :D

I understand. But again the idea is to make Peach have pleasure of these balls (or a big butt). We know its a butt, but Peach can think its testicles, and women TEND to love big ones (not all of them).
There are some 'afrodisiac' effects (due to oxytocin?) that make girls be really crazy for big testicles in a man. Its like a good pussy scent a man sniffs in. Those things we cant explain. It makes the couple more and more aroused.

VintageBass Wrote:Well if you got a blue and green one, sure they'll be nice and adds some color. And I can't deny that they do look cute, but that's not really that qualifies to stay.

Remember they're in Mario Universe, and remember there are worse enemies (in regard to art) that are not sexy at all, like most of the enemies in Super Paper Mario.

VintageBass Wrote:He's from another dimension. Sure he's a part of the same universe, but another dimension. The same dimension as some of the other characters from SPM, so what's not stopping the other creatures from there from pouring into this world?

He is the most 'fleshy' of them, if not the only one.

VintageBass Wrote:Just because they haven't said a thing or are just neutral on its doesn't mean it's green lights for you to add.

There are enemies that fall greatly in the game concepts I envisioned since the begining: A medieval world with cute beings (like the star, the flower with eyes), and Cherbil is in that group. Looking at his model as is, he is not a 'paper like' being, or a 'high tech' one.

Moreover, I just think we are worrying too much about where each enemies come from (that makes up so restrained). Its like avoiding to use certain enemies from SMB2 'dream dimension' in normal levels.
I still cant understand why dont you see him participating in Princess Peach's land.

VintageBass Wrote:Whoa, whoa, time out! I did not say that! Why are you changing what I'm saying? If you're going to quote me, don't add in anything that I didn't say in my post! Although looking back at my post, terrible grammar is terrible.

Sorry, not intentional!! Fixed above. But check that the differences was just because I added your saying 'adornment'. I added it to make it more clear.
CHANGED-->He's like an adornment from and I didn't want it in just because I thought it would, all in good fun (that and it was perfectly easy to draw, just a couple of circles, that's it). I just want to get some practice in and see if I can match the style from the games, that's it!

ORIGINAL-->...and I didn't want it in just because I thought it would, all in good fun (that and it was perfectly easy to draw, just a couple of circles, that's it). I just want to get some practice in and see if I can match the style from the games, that's it!

So, calm down, man, please.

VintageBass Wrote:And if you read the rest of that sentence, I've said that I like that he's back to normal. I noticed that he's back, and I'm glad that it's for the best. Also stop editing my quotes!

Not intentional.

VintageBass Wrote:I got bats as well. Even though they are foam, I can still dual-wield those suckers and if it comes to worse, I got a metal one waiting in the garage. So, I guess we're on even grounds. Also, no, bellies aren't a real issue unless they just look wonky on Peach, which I can't say because I have no idea what they look like since I haven't bothered messing with that feature in the game, so I really can't say anything about that.

So dont add this up to you 'growing snow ball', if any.

VintageBass Wrote:And yet we got new scenes that are coming out with your dialogue and people are getting put off by it...

Some of them, not all of them. If so, tons of them would be telling this in the forum.

VintageBass Wrote:Well, at least the ones that do care about reading something sexy. I'm not sure about the others, considering that they're more interested in the actions than the words, because that's how it goes. Actions speak louder than words. But when are they expected to go in, because I could see more interest in fixing Toadsworth's dialogue and those who are connected to the plot than any of the scenes, besides maybe the Koopalings.

As the dialogues ARE expected to change (for the better), I just ask people in the team to work on them, because we have only goomba and toadsworth ones so far (If I recall).

VintageBass Wrote:But are you really listening to us and not the large voices? It kinda feels like we're a part of the vocal minority, those who have a strong opinion against some of the stuff you're adding, while you got this large audience with far much demands and you want to satisfy each and everyone of them, becoming far much louder than we are.

Cant I listen to people? And make voting polls for us all to discuss? And more, adding OPTIONAL features (ON/OFF) is like not adding them for those who dont like that particular one.
And do I still need to enlist features we talked about then I agreed with you guys?

VintageBass Wrote:Some of these excuses aren't going to play much longer, you will need to listen to us. Hopefully it'll be soon...

I can also deny/disagree with something, right? With a proper explanation.

VintageBass Wrote:OK, that answers my above question. Plus you're also making art and coding all of this, which has to be stressful on you. It's bad enough that as a creator I have my own burnout periods, but this is ridiculous! Of course I should be jealous that you're not getting that burn out, but at the same time I'm worried about that. At least if you do, the game will receive a break and perhaps we can examine the problems that it currently has and do something to fix and improve it.

But you all can do this at all times. If SK wasnt working well due to the 'huge list' of history, lets do that using emails and LOK PM. I am really listening, and I can stop when it needs to.

VintageBass Wrote:How can we communicate if we feel like our voices aren't being heard?

Again, I am almost sure it was a SK curse. The way SK history works.

VintageBass Wrote:I guess it could be that with all of these people coming here and listing off what they want into the game, it can be difficult to keep up with all of the demands and those who are really putting their effort into making this fun.

Of course! But please, lets not just IGNORE everyone outside the team. I was one of them.

VintageBass Wrote:Two years, that's how long I've been away from one of my successful fan-fics, all because of some terrible crap that happened to me during that time. Not to mentioned I had some terrible blockage, struggling to get what I want to get onto the screen, and I lost all of my data because of a computer virus.

Bad ,bad :(

VintageBass Wrote:I went through two computers, and yet I finally came back swinging, putting an end to the long awaited final battle and an epilogue to that story. And it followed what I originally planned for that chapter those two years and I still came in swinging a home run.

Of couse we can get back to a former paused work, but just imagine if you were working non-stop (with creativity and breath, of course): you might have many stories already done. But I got the point. We must not rush, we are doing this for fun.

VintageBass Wrote:Sure you may not have the same success I had, considering the very nature of fan-fiction, but considering that we both have good material on our hands, it's bound to have the same quality to it. Heck, some times that could be a difference as, like I said, what I had originally planned was the same but the quality of the writing has improved during the time. A break really is great! Sure two years seems like a long time, but it's surely great to finally complete it and bring an end to such a great story. Maybe it could work for you, but like you said, how will you feel about being away from all of this?

I just need to organize things I stopped, and put in a kind of POST-IT in the walls. I dont like pausing things in a way I lost interest on it. There is a risk, this is the problem. But yes, I will take a vacation, this is for real. Maybe just 10 days, maybe 30 days, maybe even more.

VintageBass Wrote:Uh, chess is all about trying to figure out what your opponent's next move is, staying ahead of them and really true strategy. A break isn't like chess. Yes there is planning involve, but really it doesn't need to be all about thinking. It's just a moment to allow your brain to relax from all this thinking and take a moment to breathe. It constantly running is bound to cause problems down the line.

Yes, thats why I said above.

VintageBass Wrote:No, don't multitask. Not everyone is capable of performing such a feat. It's good that you are, but some jobs are better off to the others.

I know. Well, you are now sure I was always here to listen, even if SK didnt help on this.

VintageBass Wrote:No, it's a hemi-penis. Otherwise I don't want to make a meme joke.

Oh! :lol:
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:59 am

Added Bumpty Scene 2.
I am here to say thanks heartfully to Alexxander for the great help.

Dodoman is also helping with scene sketches. Soon I'll return to level making (6-1). MPLDAM is assigned for it.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby h2frost » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:06 am

Ivan-sama Wrote:1)Which enemies
2) Some enemies shred a clothing part. Thats not a damage. She wont die if she becomes naked due to that during sex.

1. Big wrigglers and big goombas in Boogey forest I think it was stage 5.
2. yeah they shredded my clothing (with no sex scene) and then since my bar was empty I got bounced off the screen (died) and lost a life.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:31 am

h2frost Wrote:1. Big wrigglers and big goombas in Boogey forest I think it was stage 5.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ok.... Yes, only damage, because there are no giant scenes yet.

h2frost Wrote:2. yeah they shredded my clothing (with no sex scene) and then since my bar was empty I got bounced off the screen (died) and lost a life.

Those giant enemies will do damage in a way she will lose a life if she is naked and without any horniness (horny bar).
As for clothing shredding DURING scenes, those dont make her die, because the enemy is just tearing a given part in order to do his thing better.

According to the changelog:
Update 2.0.11:
- New: Level 4-5 (with a new area). Giant goombas and wigglers will be there, but no scenes yet! Instead, they will harm Peach.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.4 (mar 06/14)

Postby cypher371 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:18 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I am not american, sorry. It could be worse if I havent taken TOELF test :lol: (yes, I have succeded!) But I am not fluent enough and I dont live with americans like everyday. So I dont know the correct intonation and the right words. I am improving over time ;) Rather than saying 'worst kind of bad english', take some tools, and help me improve it! This is an indie project. Thank you!


Oh come on! Surely England is the first country that pops to mind when people mention the English Language ;) (though it's probably based on what non-English speaking country you're from that determines which English speaking country pops to mind when thinking of the language...) Should've just said English speaking countries! ;)
TBH I'm a bit of a "Grammar Nazi" myself. However, when it comes to the internet and Indy Projects such as this, I generally make an exception to "bad English" as it's ignorant to assume that someone who is speaking English online is speaking in their first language; so long as the general idea of what they're trying to say is clear, you can let them get away with it!

I was replying to a few others too... I probably should have quoted...

Anyways, I digress.... Just wanted to say been a while since I checked for updates and well sad that I lost my save... especially now the unlock gallery button is gone :( oh well i guess now i can experience all the new stuff from scratch! Looking good! Are we nearing the end now?
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:13 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Dodoman is also helping with scene sketches. Soon I'll return to level making (6-1). MPLDAM is assigned for it.

Didn't I already sent you 6-1 awhile back? Do you have the file on your PC? I'm been meaning to work on some of the World 7 levels but I haven't found the time yet to make them. I hope to have time this week.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.4 (mar 06/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:58 am

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:Didn't I already sent you 6-1 a while back? Do you have the file on your PC? I'm been meaning to work on some of the World 7 levels but I haven't found the time yet to make them. I hope to have time this week.

Hmmmmm I havent found it here. I have 7-1 and World 5 levels (ice). You were naming them 6-1, 6-2... but then they turned to 5-1, 5-2... Please send me again (Beach and Delfino island themed levels).

cypher371 Wrote:Oh come on! Surely England is the first country that pops to mind when people mention the English Language ;) (though it's probably based on what non-English speaking country you're from that determines which English speaking country pops to mind when thinking of the language...) Should've just said English speaking countries! ;) TBH I'm a bit of a "Grammar Nazi" myself. However, when it comes to the internet and Indy Projects such as this, I generally make an exception to "bad English" as it's ignorant to assume that someone who is speaking English online is speaking in their first language; so long as the general idea of what they're trying to say is clear, you can let them get away with it!

Thats the idea. And for sure, If I were worried about my english, I would have made a 'muted' game, without any word. As people havent argued against the way I write in real life, and as scholars noticed I dont have that 'bad english' overall during tests and when I write letters, only purists or writers (VintageBass is one) or people who were born in USA/England and read books and talk to people a lot would request perfect dialogues. Its like getting 'grade 8 (B)' is not enough for them. If they want a 'grade 10' dialogue, well, help me achieve it ;)

As I noticed, some of the dialogues are like 'hey, you are penetrating meee'. People want to know Peach inner feelings more. So I will be checking those over time. I noticed its better to put more naive and cute phrases like 'Ohh, its hot inside me... I feel my bare body shiver', although 'His thing is going to my ass' is also interesting, also because sometimes we are not seeing her ass directly.

cypher371 Wrote:Anyways, I digress.... Just wanted to say been a while since I checked for updates and well sad that I lost my save... especially now the unlock gallery button is gone :( oh well i guess now i can experience all the new stuff from scratch! Looking good! Are we nearing the end now?

Hey please stop! As I've said, YOU CAN still UNLOCK the gallery. Just use the cheat code in a given level (like Peach Castle) then go to the gallery ;) The buttons will be there.

We still need to make 21 levels in order to have the main framework done. Then I'll be heading towards even more scenes and plot devices. But I am already adding 'side' features between level design. I cant just make levels levels levels without a break and a given feature that could be implemented in the background, of course.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 15/14)

Postby Biles » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:12 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I am working on Birdo Scene 4 right now. Birdo will have a new face 'view' (side).
(just to be clear, her dick WONT be there if FUTA is OFF).

birdo side.jpg


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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 15/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:17 pm

Biles Wrote:Ah, so there is definitely a side view of birdo :D

And I improved it! (its in the game, just check the scene 2 then pause it) ;)
Thats because her bow and part of her nose area were still a bit wrong. But well, we dont need to be so detailing there.
If you still want to make the frontside face, just say it, I havent started yet. If you dont have time, I will make it ;)
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby VintageBass » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:08 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:I really don't have to do that. Considering that the title is enough to attract people like flies to a light. I can have her do just normal stuff and people will be fapping. Otherwise I do have my moments, but they're more towards building my character, not humiliating her.

Remember, I dont regard 'ENF' themes as being 'humiliation', but rather to make her 'open' her inner desires to be naked and be fucked in unpredicted areas and moments, like an ehxibitionist, or just a girl who ends up in trouble, but she ends up loving it.

But she's already naked. She has no further desire to be naked already other than maybe bring in others to enjoy the freedom of nudism and live a better lifestyle. And, as I previously mentioned, my girl has no sexual desires whatsoever. I can only count one, only one, scene that you might like, but it involves her dressed up and it's more of a realization to someone else instead of my girl.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:In all matters regarding ENF, I make it clear people respect her.

Yeah, I don't see it working. I like my current plan of having people respect her of being this strong Trainer despite being naked. I don't see how making her openly sexual is going to win respect to other people. That's something people will be turn off of, and far from earning respect, only pity. I'll only feel sorry for the girl, which isn't the goal of this.

And by the way, do you know how old my character is? Because if you want me to force my girl to have any sort of sex at her current stage in life, then I have to stop you right there. I got standards, I'm not going to steep that low to satisfy some fantasy that I don't have any respect for. Can I play it for laughs? If there's no sex involve, then sure! In fact I'm still hesitant of allowing my character to have sex, mostly consensual, so I really can't guarantee anything on that.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Well if you got a blue and green one, sure they'll be nice and adds some color. And I can't deny that they do look cute, but that's not really that qualifies to stay.

Remember they're in Mario Universe, and remember there are worse enemies (in regard to art) that are not sexy at all, like most of the enemies in Super Paper Mario.

Considering that a good majority of them are from the other games, that doesn't work. Now if you said they're the newer enemies, sure. However I could see some working as well.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:He's from another dimension. Sure he's a part of the same universe, but another dimension. The same dimension as some of the other characters from SPM, so what's not stopping the other creatures from there from pouring into this world?

He is the most 'fleshy' of them, if not the only one.

How much would you say that I can make some of the others work as well?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Just because they haven't said a thing or are just neutral on its doesn't mean it's green lights for you to add.

There are enemies that fall greatly in the game concepts I envisioned since the begining: A medieval world with cute beings (like the star, the flower with eyes), and Cherbil is in that group. Looking at his model as is, he is not a 'paper like' being, or a 'high tech' one.

... That comment is on the other contributors not saying anything about the new additions or are just "meh," not on this.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I still cant understand why dont you see him participating in Princess Peach's land.

Because there needs to be a reason for it to appear in the world? These guys only appear in one game and in its own separate dimension, with no real way of them getting here without someone knowing how to. What purpose is for this creatures to be here other than "he is cute?"

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Whoa, whoa, time out! I did not say that! Why are you changing what I'm saying? If you're going to quote me, don't add in anything that I didn't say in my post! Although looking back at my post, terrible grammar is terrible.

Sorry, not intentional!! Fixed above. But check that the differences was just because I added your saying 'adornment'. I added it to make it more clear.

But that's not what I was trying to say! I never intended to say that! In fact, looking at back at what I wrote, it supposed to go:

VintageBass Wrote:with it being that it doesn't belong here due to it being from another dimension and really doesn't fit in with the current setting,

Still, this is going to create the same back and forth thing because I can't agree with the idea that you're suggesting, and you're not understanding why I am feeling like this.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:And if you read the rest of that sentence, I've said that I like that he's back to normal. I noticed that he's back, and I'm glad that it's for the best. Also stop editing my quotes!

Not intentional.

Then why do it?

VintageBass Wrote:Also, no, bellies aren't a real issue unless they just look wonky on Peach, which I can't say because I have no idea what they look like since I haven't bothered messing with that feature in the game, so I really can't say anything about that.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:So dont add this up to you 'growing snow ball', if any.

Uh, that's not what that saying means. And if I do want to explain why I dislike the bellies, then I will. I just can't because I have no experience with it so I can't really complain about something I have nothing to work against.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Well, at least the ones that do care about reading something sexy. I'm not sure about the others, considering that they're more interested in the actions than the words, because that's how it goes. Actions speak louder than words. But when are they expected to go in, because I could see more interest in fixing Toadsworth's dialogue and those who are connected to the plot than any of the scenes, besides maybe the Koopalings.

As the dialogues ARE expected to change (for the better), I just ask people in the team to work on them, because we have only goomba and toadsworth ones so far (If I recall).

Considering I have absolutely no idea on how to work with the spreadsheet, I'm going to do things my way! But first, my own stuff is more important to do...

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Cant I listen to people?

Yes you can.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And make voting polls for us all to discuss?

Depends. Really it does depend on the features, even if some of it really adds in nothing to the overall enjoyment other than it looks better on the eyes.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And more, adding OPTIONAL features (ON/OFF) is like not adding them for those who dont like that particular one.

Do we even need some of these features? The only reason I can see this working is to satisfying various fetishes people like. To me, it's just added baggage, nothing I really want to mess with, or even bother to turn on/off because it's there.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And do I still need to enlist features we talked about then I agreed with you guys?

It'll help.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Some of these excuses aren't going to play much longer, you will need to listen to us. Hopefully it'll be soon...

I can also deny/disagree with something, right? With a proper explanation.

Then start explaining.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:How can we communicate if we feel like our voices aren't being heard?

Again, I am almost sure it was a SK curse. The way SK history works.

It's not Skype's fault. It never was. Skype has nothing do with all of this.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:I guess it could be that with all of these people coming here and listing off what they want into the game, it can be difficult to keep up with all of the demands and those who are really putting their effort into making this fun.

Of course! But please, lets not just IGNORE everyone outside the team. I was one of them.

There will be the exception. It's very rare, but there will be that one time you will.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Of couse we can get back to a former paused work, but just imagine if you were working non-stop (with creativity and breath, of course): you might have many stories already done. But I got the point. We must not rush, we are doing this for fun.

Yeah, and I'm sure that each of those stories won't have any good quality, despite having a ton of titles under my belt. I want some time to check up on my quality before I release anything to the public, thinking "hmmm, is this good enough?" instead of just completing it and then throwing it out for everyone to read.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:No, don't multitask. Not everyone is capable of performing such a feat. It's good that you are, but some jobs are better off to the others.

I know. Well, you are now sure I was always here to listen, even if SK didnt help on this.

Again, Skype isn't the problem! It never was!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Its like getting 'grade 8 (B)' is not enough for them. If they want a 'grade 10' dialogue, well, help me achieve it ;)

No, we don't want to make things perfect (although it does help). We just want to make it good enough, varied, and be sexy enough to enjoy. If I were to say it's more "D" as worse, "meh" at best.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:As I noticed, some of the dialogues are like 'hey, you are penetrating meee'. People want to know Peach inner feelings more. So I will be checking those over time. I noticed its better to put more naive and cute phrases like 'Ohh, its hot inside me... I feel my bare body shiver', although 'His thing is going to my ass' is also interesting, also because sometimes we are not seeing her ass directly.

One, I don't really care all that much about Peach's "inner feelings." I don't really feel any reason to care about these reasons. Two, yeah it works for her, but that's kinda bland instead of cute and naive. If you want cute, try using more word variation and play on stuff to reflect her personality.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:53 pm

VintageBass Wrote:But she's already naked. She has no further desire to be naked already other than maybe bring in others to enjoy the freedom of nudism and live a better lifestyle. And, as I previously mentioned, my girl has no sexual desires whatsoever. I can only count one, only one, scene that you might like, but it involves her dressed up and it's more of a realization to someone else instead of my girl.

I really understand, I said before, a 'nudist' theme you follow. If you can guide me to that dressed up scene (the page number) I would like to see it.

VintageBass Wrote:Yeah, I don't see it working. I like my current plan of having people respect her of being this strong Trainer despite being naked. I don't see how making her openly sexual is going to win respect to other people. That's something people will be turn off of, and far from earning respect, only pity. I'll only feel sorry for the girl, which isn't the goal of this.

I know. In the world/realm I imagine, like you already see, people can retain respect even if she does dirty things, because it's regarded as 'special', 'unpredicted', but still normal, beautiful. Maybe one or other character might say 'she's a nymph! She is doing those nasty things!' but at heart, he respects the 'tendency', the 'rule' of his environment, where people respects nudity AND sex, even a dirty one. Its the 'deisification' of nudity and sex. I follow this theme. So thats why I dont like the idea of 'every creature in mushroom kingdom being cursed'. Actually, they are normal, maybe one or another might be affected by the afrodisiac scents/gases from Kamek, but in general, they WANT her. Peach is beautiful and inhabiants want some of her naturally. When they see her naked, its like a Godness (she will be a future queen after all), she is their ruler. Thats another reason to respect her. Heck, they can even follow her 'nasty situations', that is, a toad that decides to walk around naked to entice female toads and make his male friends envy :oops: :mrgreen: And his excuse: 'oh erh....my princess does that sometimes too...whoopsie!'.

This is beautiful!! I like these themes (nudity WITH sex and nasty things, like pussy sniffing, etc, in public or not, while retaining respect). They're one of the main pillars of this game. I understand if you dont like it, or maybe just some areas of this idea.

VintageBass Wrote:And by the way, do you know how old my character is? Because if you want me to force my girl to have any sort of sex at her current stage in life, then I have to stop you right there. I got standards, I'm not going to steep that low to satisfy some fantasy that I don't have any respect for. Can I play it for laughs? If there's no sex involve, then sure! In fact I'm still hesitant of allowing my character to have sex, mostly consensual, so I really can't guarantee anything on that.

Great! Yes, IT MUST be consensual, OF COURSE ;) Right?
And no, I DONT WANT to force your girl to do anything, YOU make this happen, YOU are the creator ;) And you DONT need to respect some fantasy. You are you ;) I am here discussing those other areas, so you can know it more and see they're not that ODD. If you still think its ODD, no problem, really. But I am liking the discussion.

VintageBass Wrote:Considering that a good majority of them are from the other games, that doesn't work. Now if you said they're the newer enemies, sure. However I could see some working as well.

Then please tell it. I can make them enemies in the game, Peach will still need to pleasure them (or knock them down) in order to be free of them.

VintageBass Wrote:How much would you say that I can make some of the others work as well?

Maybe designing them with a human or animal-like bodies? Axem Rangers can be more humanoid, giving a reason for Peach to taste their fleshy things ;)

VintageBass Wrote:(about star with eyes, cherbil being cute...)... That comment is on the other contributors not saying anything about the new additions or are just "meh," not on this.

Being neutral will always means 'do what you prefer' to me. I like this freedom (who doesnt?), so I can have creativity to come with good scenes and ideas. But this doesnt imply I will be ignoring discussions or 'dont do that' criticisms, which can be positive.

VintageBass Wrote:Because there needs to be a reason for it to appear in the world? These guys only appear in one game and in its own separate dimension, with no real way of them getting here without someone knowing how to. What purpose is for this creatures to be here other than "he is cute?"

1 - he is cute (you already pointed it out)
2 - he follows Mario creature design (black rectangular/rounder edge eyes), and he is fleshy.
3 - Its a way for Peach to play with his sexual areas faster, because its so explicit. He is almost a dick itself. If Peach is horny she can even go towards him like a nymphomaniac.
4 - I can create a dialogue, said from a given Bumpty that says something like: 'Princess, did you notice those butt-like little guys? Erhm.....they' came here after the last Mario adventure. Rumors say they're from another dimension. Be careful of them, I've heard they're insatiable'.

Please think about it.

VintageBass Wrote:But that's not what I was trying to say! I never intended to say that! In fact, looking at back at what I wrote, it supposed to go

Ok understood, sorry again.

VintageBass Wrote:Still, this is going to create the same back and forth thing because I can't agree with the idea that you're suggesting, and you're not understanding why I am feeling like this.

We're brainstorming. Please see my idea above.

VintageBass Wrote:Then why do it?

To make it more clear, like I usually do with my quotes too (like the parenthesis above) - '(about star with eyes, cherbil being cute...)'
This is NOT to annoy you, its to make it clear. But again, I put 'adornment' without asking, so that was an exception.

VintageBass Wrote:Uh, that's not what that saying means. And if I do want to explain why I dislike the bellies, then I will. I just can't because I have no experience with it so I can't really complain about something I have nothing to work against.

So let's skip the Belly discussion, as I dont know any more ideas to discuss about.

VintageBass Wrote:Considering I have absolutely no idea on how to work with the spreadsheet, I'm going to do things my way! But first, my own stuff is more important to do...

Great, do as you please. You dont need to follow the rules of the spreadsheet anyway. Just a txt file with 'old dialogue', 'new dialogue' in each balloon works. I make almost all notes in the TXT anyway.

VintageBass Wrote:(voting poll) Depends. Really it does depend on the features, even if some of it really adds in nothing to the overall enjoyment other than it looks better on the eyes.

Isn't it great to make them look better on the eyes? Isnt that an improvement? And how's about the ON/OFF? If I dont like FUTA, I put it OFF then its all whistles and bells.

VintageBass Wrote:Do we even need some of these features? The only reason I can see this working is to satisfying various fetishes people like. To me, it's just added baggage, nothing I really want to mess with, or even bother to turn on/off because it's there.

So, man, please lets skip that part, why? Because I will add some features like that according to some people fetishes (and mine). They will be deactivated as default (most, if not all) in the game (OFF), and dont say 'but you are losing your time, you could be making levels and scenes like you said). Yes, but remember I can make features between levels and scenes. They're a kind of refresh for me. Better than just working on levels levels levels until exhausting myself.

VintageBass Wrote:(list) It'll help.

I'll try to remember them all, because of course, if you were affected by some of them, you know about them inside your head.
1 - Cherbil case (we was discussing it already)
2 - New Hit Algorithm case (I let it clear I decided to work on it later, or much later due to the code changes needed)
3 - Luigi book dialogues (I havent just started it yet). You know we will be having Peach scenes inside her thought balloon, but I need to know how it can work flawlessly, because the current game engine dont support multiple peach objects using different clothes at the same time: e.g. Peach playable character AND the Peach inside the thought balloon. So thats why I prefered to make it work in a new 'thought' screen, like the diary one (with clouds).
4 - Wario: he will appear in the bar, and some of the action scenes will be like we discussed already: Wario is not paying attention to anything, he is lazy. He is capable to just lay down there and order Peach to fuck and suck him all by herself.
If there are other items (I know there are), we have to remember which ones. As I've said, I dont have a crystal ball.

VintageBass Wrote:Then start explaining.

Explaining what? You can tell which affected areas are along our conversation. We are talking about Cherbil right now ;)

VintageBass Wrote:It's not Skype's fault. It never was. Skype has nothing do with all of this.

It has. Skype is like a 'big guestbook', or an endless blog. We can be lost in dozens of discussed lines, and this can make us upset and disoriented. And worse, it can make us think I havent heard you guys.

VintageBass Wrote:(about Ivan being a lurker before) There will be the exception. It's very rare, but there will be that one time you will.

Lets see the results. Just try to value other opinions (from lurkers too) more. They have value.

VintageBass Wrote:Yeah, and I'm sure that each of those stories won't have any good quality, despite having a ton of titles under my belt. I want some time to check up on my quality before I release anything to the public, thinking "hmmm, is this good enough?" instead of just completing it and then throwing it out for everyone to read.

You are right, I agree.

VintageBass Wrote:Again, Skype isn't the problem! It never was!

For me it was. When I use those communicators, I am giving some of my time there. Then I expect more presence. That was not happening since the last months of 2013. Sorry but it was the truth. You can say everything, and explain everything that caused it, but the fact was, I felt abandoned there. Period.

VintageBass Wrote:No, we don't want to make things perfect (although it does help). We just want to make it good enough, varied, and be sexy enough to enjoy. If I were to say it's more "D" as worse, "meh" at best.

Writers are generally reckless on quality.
Anyway...Lets work on it.

VintageBass Wrote:One, I don't really care all that much about Peach's "inner feelings." I don't really feel any reason to care about these reasons. Two, yeah it works for her, but that's kinda bland instead of cute and naive. If you want cute, try using more word variation and play on stuff to reflect her personality.

I care. And yes, its still 'bland', the idea is to work more on them, but I wont be doing this alone on time. I am limited, I am a human being, not a robot.
Yes, the idea is to use more word variation, thats why I have a team, right? To discuss about those and to receive possible changes (in a txt for example). I wont be just saying 'no' to them. On the contrary.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby CaptainFalcon9000 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:01 pm

That new Bumpty scene was fucking awesome, i´ve always tought that the "spoon" position es one of the sexiest ones for anal, its in that position that i usually do anally my gf, i hope other chars or enemies will have that position for Peach, for either anal or vaginal, i just really like that position.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:06 pm

CaptainFalcon9000 Wrote:That new Bumpty scene was fucking awesome, i´ve always tought that the "spoon" position es one of the sexiest ones for anal, its in that position that i usually do anally my gf, i hope other chars or enemies will have that position for Peach, for either anal or vaginal, i just really like that position.

I am happy you liked it ;) You can thank Luftmallow and Dodoman. The first made Peach frontside model, and the second gave me that pose. Its funny that, actually, we can make almost ALL unimaginable poses for Peach, because we have all perspective poses. I just need to experiment with them, using 'clay' (existing examples), like pictures or even 3d samples of other girls. Or KamaSutra itself. I do have all poses of it, and I need to get aside of the computer and just think about it, in order to apply it well ;)

I want to Mario a new Mario scene using that position. Peach will be laying down instead of falling due to the creature's slip.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby Residentlover2 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:38 pm

sweet, is a simple position but a very sexy one, I think it can work tih teasing too, what about a toad one with this one just rubbing his dick on peach`s pussy ;) I gave another idea lol!

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby VintageBass » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:50 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I really understand, I said before, a 'nudist' theme you follow. If you can guide me to that dressed up scene (the page number) I would like to see it.

Yeah I haven't written that scene and that's a ways off.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I know. In the world/realm I imagine, like you already see, people can retain respect even if she does dirty things, because it's regarded as 'special', 'unpredicted', but still normal, beautiful. Maybe one or other character might say 'she's a nymph! She is doing those nasty things!' but at heart, he respects the 'tendency', the 'rule' of his environment, where people respects nudity AND sex, even a dirty one. Its the 'deisification' of nudity and sex. I follow this theme.

Is that really the reason?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:So thats why I dont like the idea of 'every creature in mushroom kingdom being cursed'. Actually, they are normal, maybe one or another might be affected by the afrodisiac scents/gases from Kamek, but in general, they WANT her.

They all don't have to be curse. Heck from what I got in my head, technically this isn't the case as Peach could be the only one unaffected by all of this. Although also considering what I have, this might be only affected towards the Mushroom Kingdom, specifically the castle, and that might lead into some problems considering what spell that Kamek used in the first place. Whoops. Also, Kamek uses straight up magic, no incense, no earth-based stuff, just triangles, circles and squares to do his work. Why? It's magic, I don't have to explain it.

And 'afrodisiac' has me thinking, there's something that can be attracting to afros? That's kinda awesome.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Peach is beautiful and inhabiants want some of her naturally. When they see her naked, its like a Godness (she will be a future queen after all), she is their ruler. Thats another reason to respect her. Heck, they can even follow her 'nasty situations', that is, a toad that decides to walk around naked to entice female toads and make his male friends envy :oops: :mrgreen: And his excuse: 'oh erh....my princess does that sometimes too...whoopsie!'.

Yeah, I could potentially buy the fact that a princess or queen going around nude if she has the power, authority, and/or personality to pull off such a feat, because if she has the power, let her do it! From what you're saying, I just can't buy into the fact with Peach, because it's Peach! The one girl that's gets constantly kidnapped by Bowser, who is the butt in feminism jokes, and is usually not a role model that people look to emulate. Plus I don't really feel much connection with her, other than just being your regular damsel in distress. If she has more of a character to her than just being that, I could feel more of a connection. And then her personality comes off as too naive, something that I don't see fitting for Peach in this style of thing. Now this can work, but with how Peach is behaving in this game and how you feel about this theme, yeah I just can't feel invested in this.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:This is beautiful!! I like these themes (nudity WITH sex and nasty things, like pussy sniffing, etc, in public or not, while retaining respect). They're one of the main pillars of this game. I understand if you dont like it, or maybe just some areas of this idea.

It's just that I really don't see how there's any sort of respect in all of this. This is about embarrassment, which I get that it can work for humorous situations (Peach and Toadsworth at the beginning of the game), but I just can't see it working sexually.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And no, I DONT WANT to force your girl to do anything, YOU make this happen, YOU are the creator ;) And you DONT need to respect some fantasy. You are you ;) I am here discussing those other areas, so you can know it more and see they're not that ODD. If you still think its ODD, no problem, really. But I am liking the discussion.

Just to note, my girl is thirteen years old in that story. And you want me to have her do sexual things out in public with strangers in contrived situations, and then have them to have respect for her after all of that? Yeah, that's going to get a big fat no from me. Although I do need to respect some fantasy because how else would I maintain a world if I'm not doing a deconstruction?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Then please tell it. I can make them enemies in the game, Peach will still need to pleasure them (or knock them down) in order to be free of them.

Or you can check the Wiki out and view what enemies appeared there. It wouldn't hurt to look...

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:How much would you say that I can make some of the others work as well?

Maybe designing them with a human or animal-like bodies? Axem Rangers can be more humanoid, giving a reason for Peach to taste their fleshy things ;)

The Axem Rangers are already humanoid, at least from the neck down. And since what I have in mind for them is much more human in structure, and that there is something that can be removed from their crotches, it works out. Although why make them "fleshy?" I get doing that down below, but they're robots. At least with that they got a freaking lot of stamina and can pretty much gang-bang Peach forever... and if that's the case, then why not throw in the other bosses from SMRPG, including Smithy himself?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Being neutral will always means 'do what you prefer' to me. I like this freedom (who doesnt?), so I can have creativity to come with good scenes and ideas. But this doesnt imply I will be ignoring discussions or 'dont do that' criticisms, which can be positive.

Yeah, but too much freedom is also not a good thing. Trust me, having too much freedom on a project can make the final product not great as well. Just because you think it's great doesn't mean that it is.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:1 - he is cute (you already pointed it out)
2 - he follows Mario creature design (black rectangular/rounder edge eyes), and he is fleshy.
3 - Its a way for Peach to play with his sexual areas faster, because its so explicit. He is almost a dick itself. If Peach is horny she can even go towards him like a nymphomaniac.
4 - I can create a dialogue, said from a given Bumpty that says something like: 'Princess, did you notice those butt-like little guys? Erhm.....they' came here after the last Mario adventure. Rumors say they're from another dimension. Be careful of them, I've heard they're insatiable'.

Please think about it.

That's not really much purpose. Like what I was thinking is that maybe Dimentio has left something open that allows these creatures to come in and take over. But is there a reason for Dimentio to be in this game? It's just that I'm thinking of practical reasons for such creatures to exist, instead of the anesthetic reasons. Also, "fleshy" is kinda a bull crap reason. Bob-ombs, Dry Bones, Chomps and Chompette, Clefts, Boos, Flurries and Bullet Bills have no flesh to them (besides the interior of Chomps) so why do you have them if you like flesh so much. In fact, is there a reason Geno is human, along with looking sort of terrifying as well, besides the reason you like flesh?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Still, this is going to create the same back and forth thing because I can't agree with the idea that you're suggesting, and you're not understanding why I am feeling like this.

We're brainstorming. Please see my idea above.

From what I understand, previously you were. Nowadays it's more or less people feeding you ideas so you can get them into the game rather than us actually discussing them.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:To make it more clear, like I usually do with my quotes too (like the parenthesis above) - '(about star with eyes, cherbil being cute...)'
This is NOT to annoy you, its to make it clear. But again, I put 'adornment' without asking, so that was an exception.

And you put in stuff that isn't what I was talking about. If you try to understand what we're trying to say, then you don't need to add or change our quotes to your understanding.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:So let's skip the Belly discussion, as I dont know any more ideas to discuss about.

It's not a matter of discussing ideas, it's more for its reason for being in the game.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:Considering I have absolutely no idea on how to work with the spreadsheet, I'm going to do things my way! But first, my own stuff is more important to do...

Great, do as you please. You dont need to follow the rules of the spreadsheet anyway. Just a txt file with 'old dialogue', 'new dialogue' in each balloon works. I make almost all notes in the TXT anyway.

Yeah, it'll be a while before I'll get back into this, hopefully when we finally come to an understanding, the game will have better management, and the quality will imporve greatly!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:(voting poll) Depends. Really it does depend on the features, even if some of it really adds in nothing to the overall enjoyment other than it looks better on the eyes.

Isn't it great to make them look better on the eyes? Isnt that an improvement?

Of course, but that does depend on what's being added. Like Belome having his official art changed into something else. Is this a good thing or not? I dunno, what purpose does he have here, and where will he be?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And how's about the ON/OFF? If I dont like FUTA, I put it OFF then its all whistles and bells.

That is understandable. With how certain creatures are in the games and how certain people are turned off by this, it would make sense to have a feature that could toggle this. It is just one one thing that I can get behind, while the others... yeah I'm not entirely sure of. Those are just fetishes that a lot of people are not into and if I were in charge of this, I wouldn't put them in at all. I just see no reason for it other than appealing to those who like the feature.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:So, man, please lets skip that part, why? Because I will add some features like that according to some people fetishes (and mine). They will be deactivated as default (most, if not all) in the game (OFF), and dont say 'but you are losing your time, you could be making levels and scenes like you said). Yes, but remember I can make features between levels and scenes. They're a kind of refresh for me. Better than just working on levels levels levels until exhausting myself.

The way I see it, I rather see features that are going to add on to the gameplay, not add in new fap material. That's just how I see it. If I want new features, I want it to be something of value, something that will be good to play the game, not just to be added on because one likes this and another likes that. I'm not going to play this game because it has vore or bigger bellies, I want to play a game that allows me to control Peach and occasionally have sex with someone.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I'll try to remember them all, because of course, if you were affected by some of them, you know about them inside your head.

I already got a ton of stuff roaming in my head, so it's likely I won't know everything.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:2 - New Hit Algorithm case (I let it clear I decided to work on it later, or much later due to the code changes needed)

I have no jurisdiction on this, it's probably better to talk to Quiz about this since he's the one who suggested it. Although, if it is that hard, then why not do it? If you do, then you'll be done with it and you don't have to worry about it later on. Plus with newer enemies added in, it'll be much easier to do than just doing everyone at once. Less work, I guess.

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VintageBass Wrote:Then start explaining.

Explaining what? You can tell which affected areas are along our conversation.

I mean the reasons to not allow certain things into the game, that's what.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:It's not Skype's fault. It never was. Skype has nothing do with all of this.

It has. Skype is like a 'big guestbook', or an endless blog. We can be lost in dozens of discussed lines, and this can make us upset and disoriented. And worse, it can make us think I havent heard you guys.

Yeah, I don't think it is Skype's fault at all. I think there's a much bigger issue here than someone not coming in and saying 'what's up?'

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
VintageBass Wrote:(about Ivan being a lurker before) There will be the exception. It's very rare, but there will be that one time you will.

Lets see the results. Just try to value other opinions (from lurkers too) more. They have value.

Like yghhd suggesting the idea of allowing Peach to have sex with babies fresh out of her own womb?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Writers are generally reckless on quality.

I wasn't that great in the beginning, but I still have a better quality story than what's being produce now on FFN, so... yeah, I'm not that reckless. It's just I suck at tenses, failing to check for missing words, and sometimes just make regular mistakes.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Yes, the idea is to use more word variation, thats why I have a team, right? To discuss about those and to receive possible changes (in a txt for example). I wont be just saying 'no' to them. On the contrary.

That does depend on how you view the characters. How I see it... well, Toadsworth would be blowing his cap off the moment he realize what Peach is doing in his game, locks her in her room, and probably give her a rash scolding about all of this, not the casual Toadsworth that doesn't give a crap that he doesn't have his pants on. Yeah I get that he's old and under stress, definitely caused by the princess, so him telling her to "use her body" in the current form is not really the best suggestion he should be giving her. But then we wouldn't have a game, right?

So if I do get back on working this, I'll definitely fix that problem for sure with a better reason for Peach heading out and finding Mario. At least that'll give her more of a motivation than what she has now... which I don't feel like she has at all.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.5 (mar 16/14)

Postby kage_ryu07 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:26 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Added Bumpty Scene 2.
I am here to say thanks heartfully to Alexxander for the great help.


if you must know its because i love you guys here, hell if anyone else needs help id love to contribute. These games are epic and just keep me looking forward to the next update :D
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.1.4 (mar 06/14)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:36 pm

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MPLDAM9919 Wrote:Didn't I already sent you 6-1 a while back? Do you have the file on your PC? I'm been meaning to work on some of the World 7 levels but I haven't found the time yet to make them. I hope to have time this week.

Hmmmmm I havent found it here. I have 7-1 and World 5 levels (ice). You were naming them 6-1, 6-2... but then they turned to 5-1, 5-2... Please send me again (Beach and Delfino island themed levels).


Oh. I see...I guess I will make some World 6 levels then. Don't you have "New Booster's Tower"? Isn't that going to be part of the World 6 levels?
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