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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:35 am

Biles Wrote:Well, the reason for wanting to use the pen tool when it comes to Flash animation is to use minimal anchor points so as not to create additional drag on Flash performance.

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Space Cat » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:32 pm

I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby susuki » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:39 pm

Space Cat Wrote:I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.


The size of the breasts is good, 5 is more than enough ... for example there are scenes that could not do if peach is flat, when you play with her tits in the penises (Russian Straw)
  Cat from what I understand, you say the princess peach has a member? .... I believe distort the objective of the game ,is what I understood.
I do not like ...

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:55 pm

Space Cat Wrote:I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.

Considering from the few fans of futa following this forum post (oh God the alliteration there), it's surely unlikely we'll see Peach as a dickgirl. Primary because most of the viewing audience is not going to like it. But I know that Ivan does read a particular artist's work and if he thinks about it, he could probably fit it in since it goes with his liking to the ENF genre. That and it'll be fun for Peach to be the one in control instead of every monster trying to get her.

Still, it's highly unlikely, but if it does it's going to be at the bottom of the list low priority.

susuki Wrote:The size of the breasts is good, 5 is more than enough ... for example there are scenes that could not do if peach is flat, when you play with her tits in the penises (Russian Straw)

Well we do like to jokingly complain about the fact that Peach's larger breasts aren't natural and they're way more of a hindrance than something sexy (only to those who like inflation and extremely large breasts) and that having these large breasts can even cover the sex because creatures are disappearing in those large balloons (see, it can go both ways), but they're there for those who do love it and Ivan likes it like that. It's just an idea and having smaller breasts would get those who like more flat-chested girls, and as a bonus it'll be a great performer in this game due to having little to no breasts to slow her down! Also she can still give a boobjob if she still has it. The body can still be used, after all!

susuki Wrote:Cat from what I understand, you say the princess peach has a member? .... I believe distort the objective of the game ,is what I understood.
I do not like ...

Yeah, Cat is asking if Peach can have a member, not saying she does have one. And "distorts the objective of the game?" Uh, Ivan's vision is to have an embarrassed princess running around her kingdom and getting into sexy trouble. From what I know, there are ENF stories that has futa as the lead and they are acting on the same embarrassment levels as Peach. Hell, it's even possible to open even MORE scenes if there is a futa option for the lead, allowing both for the monster to take control (if embarrassed/virgin/indecent) or for Peach to take control (if nymph).

I get that you don't like it, and I know that many people aren't going to like it... BUT, if it's like the futa option that is already in the game, then it can be turn on for those who do like that sort of thing (it's OFF on default). For now it's a suggestion and Ivan can turn it down.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:24 pm

I'll answer slowly, but I'll do, as I want to keep present. I envision people increasing comments here due to the end of the year.
Oh! Please check if a given scene in the game is with an inverted text balloon! I think there is one error. But I cant find it. Just play the game normally, but if you find the error, please take notes of which scene it is (e.g. Goomba scene that he jumps over Peach, the second dialogue balloon). If you do, please notify me, thanks.

Interesting enough, this is the time I access less. So please understand. Priorities are swill Daisy as NPC, and inner code changes / inspection. I also have a kind of prototype to test my new scenes, because compiling a game with more than 500mb source code (yes thats it!) sometimes reaches 20 minutes.

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:At least you have people like me designing the levels for you

Yes and thank you for it. I also hope new levels soon. (translate 'soon' as 15, 30, 45 to 100 days ahead).

VintageBass Wrote:And I can also help out in making creatures as well. You don't have to do everything by yourself

I am already doing this since the beginning, Vintage ;) But for sure, creatures I havent made yet like your Tuxie idea will help me a lot, so its just a matter of vectorizing them later.
But in order to REALLY help me with time, you all need to know how to use PEN TOOL and really know how to use it (avoiding brushes at all costs because the most optimized POINTS we have, the more FASTER the game will be!). The only people I know here that can do that is:
- Soloid - Soda - Biles - Luftmallow (please remember me if somebody else is not listed).

Biles Wrote:Well, Ivan definitely is always looking for help, just be sure that if you decide to draw in Flash, that you use the pen tool instead of a brush.

Thats what I said above. Making them as bitmaps (like Vintage did with the Bumpty) helped me too, but I still have to redraw it from scratch using pen tool.

Space Cat Wrote:I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.

Futa not planned. If so, for sure it will be a low priority.
More boob sizes is possible. I'll make an intermediate size between normal and big (1), big to biggerst (1), and even smaller (1), total 8 sizes.But not in those days. I still need to ......test test test. And I will need to readjust 5 scenes that uses 'boob differences' to be sucked on properly in different sizes, like in a Wiggler scene, for example.

susuki Wrote:The size of the breasts is good, 5 is more than enough ... for example there are scenes that could not do if peach is flat, when you play with her tits in the penises (Russian Straw)
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Thats it. Having a too small boob would break those scenes. But nothing impossible to readjust only those 'broken scenes', however people will need to help me find it IF I add the smallest boob.

susuki Wrote:Cat from what I understand, you say the princess peach has a member? .... I believe distort the objective of the game ,is what I understood. I do not like ...

Me neither, but I want to make features that can be chosen (ON/OFF), so those are not impossible to do. But its really low priority. Actually I want to make more scenes and levels (as always) in order to finish the game first. Thats why I need much more help with level designs (proper ones, not 'any level design that our head imagine without a planning), and structures like those bricky houses from Super Mario Sunshine. DigFree made the tower, she could help me making the houses if possible.

VintageBass Wrote:...that having these large breasts can even cover the sex because creatures are disappearing in those large balloons (see, it can go both ways), but they're there for those who do love it and Ivan likes it like that

I do ;)

VintageBass Wrote:Ivan's vision is to have an embarrassed princess running around her kingdom and getting into sexy trouble.

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:I'll answer slowly, but I'll do, as I want to keep present. I envision people increasing comments here due to the end of the year.

Heck I even guess how many more pages until we'll get not only our 10,000th post, but have 500 pages as well. It's a long way to go, but hey if the comments pick up we'll be closer to that!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Oh! Please check if a given scene in the game is with an inverted text balloon! I think there is one error. But I cant find it. Just play the game normally, but if you find the error, please take notes of which scene it is (e.g. Goomba scene that he jumps over Peach, the second dialogue balloon). If you do, please notify me, thanks.

While I was in the bar, after getting Peach drunk, I got her to suck the bar Toad off and her scene's speech balloon was flipped. There's one location that needs fixing.

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VintageBass Wrote:And I can also help out in making creatures as well. You don't have to do everything by yourself

I am already doing this since the beginning, Vintage ;) But for sure, creatures I havent made yet like your Tuxie idea will help me a lot, so its just a matter of vectorizing them later. But in order to REALLY help me with time, you all need to know how to use PEN TOOL and really know how to use it (avoiding brushes at all costs because the most optimized POINTS we have, the more FASTER the game will be!).

I said I've been using the pen tool. My problem is that I've been stroking these lines that makes them look blurry instead of the smoothness of a vectorized image. What I want to know is how can I make a vector image in Photoshop, that's all!
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Toyloli » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:33 pm

Space Cat Wrote:I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.


Wait. Flat chest and a penis. So basically what you want is for Peach to be a gay dude, being humped by gay goombas, with all the toads and koopalings being gay because gay gay gay gay ......

and here I though I was pushing it suggesting one character be gay. M_M

Imo - while guy Peach does sound amusing and I have nothing against the principal I think this entire forum would lynch you if you essentially turned Peach into a guy. Which is what you'd be doing by making her boobless and adding a cock.

VintageBass Wrote:And I can also help out in making creatures as well. You don't have to do everything by yourself
I said I've been using the pen tool. My problem is that I've been stroking these lines that makes them look blurry instead of the smoothness of a vectorized image. What I want to know is how can I make a vector image in Photoshop, that's all!


Technically you can't. Photoshop renders it's lines to a fixed bitmap at the scale of the current image your looking at. That's why as you get closer the lines become blurry. It also uses brushes that add additional pixelation and effect. But if you use Illustrator then that can direct import into flash without having to be rebuilt cause that uses vectors just like flash does.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:52 pm

Toyloli Wrote:while guy Peach does sound amusing and I have nothing against the principal I think this entire forum would lynch you if you essentially turned Peach into a guy.

And personally I would want to throw those people out for harassing Cat because of that. At the very least, I was thinking of maybe like an A-cup size breast for a starting thing if we scale back on the breasts (even taking the size from Rosalina and adding it to the other girls). Otherwise if there is the lack of boobs and a penis added... Peach will be one very feminine looking dude.

Toyloli Wrote:Technically you can't. Photoshop renders it's lines to a fixed bitmap at the scale of the current image your looking at. That's why as you get closer the lines become blurry. It also uses brushes that add additional pixelation and effect. But if you use Illustrator then that can direct import into flash without having to be rebuilt cause that uses vectors just like flash does.

All right, good. It's good that I do have Illustrator, so I'll be using that more often now to do my drawings for here.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:33 pm

Space Cat Wrote:I agree extending the boob adjustment range down to flat chest is a nice idea. Has anyone considered a futa option for peach? Would be neat to be able to swap not just boob size but also pussy for cock-n-balls.

I say that's a bad idea. I don't think people (including me) would too happy with that idea. I prefer Peach as a 100% female thank you very much.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:39 pm

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:I say that's a bad idea. I don't think people (including me) would too happy with that idea. I prefer Peach as a 100% female thank you very much.

It's not really a bad idea as it's something that isn't going to play with people's fetishes. As mentioned, even if it does make it in, it'll be like the futa option already and have it turn off by default for everyone so they don't have to worry about that.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:43 pm

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MPLDAM9919 Wrote:I say that's a bad idea. I don't think people (including me) would too happy with that idea. I prefer Peach as a 100% female thank you very much.

It's not really a bad idea as it's something that isn't going to play with people's fetishes. As mentioned, even if it does make it in, it'll be like the futa option already and have it turn off by default for everyone so they don't have to worry about that.

True. I'm fine with the futa in the game. I like futa on female myself. But the whole "let's make Peach into a guy by a press of a button" thing I just don't like. I think it should stay out.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:46 pm

MPLDAM9919 Wrote:True. I'm fine with the futa in the game. I like futa on female myself. But the whole "let's make Peach into a guy by a press of a button" thing I just don't like. I think it should stay out.

True, fair enough. I'm not against the idea myself, I do like to see something smaller for the breasts, but not make her completely flat like a boy. Perhaps something like an A-cup, maybe?
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:21 pm

VintageBass Wrote:
MPLDAM9919 Wrote:True. I'm fine with the futa in the game. I like futa on female myself. But the whole "let's make Peach into a guy by a press of a button" thing I just don't like. I think it should stay out.

True, fair enough. I'm not against the idea myself, I do like to see something smaller for the breasts, but not make her completely flat like a boy. Perhaps something like an A-cup, maybe?

Yeah. Maybe something like that.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Toyloli » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:19 pm

now now boys... [looks over glasses] or is that girls... I feel like Professor Oak.
The main juko of the thing is this. Most people I think could accept Futa Peach if all she had were big boobs. Or flat chested Peach if she was guranteed not futa - but certain members of this forum chewed me out over the gay thing in the past (hence my harping a little, and I apologise for that) so while I am all for the concept of having more content I can only come to three conclusions.

1) Peach's Breasts should never go below a B cup. A cup is flat. MEN have A-cup breasts. They just don't wear bras to cover them because, men. Which btw the smallest breast size that we have is a B.
The current by estimation - smallest = B, Small = C, Normal = E, Big = FFF, biggest = HH (And to think they cut out an even larger one).
which brings me to
2) I think the the aproximations should be: B C D E F G precisely. From a side angle that would then create a more even flow in sizes. (There are various methods for determining and creating these proportions, but we can discuss them later if Ivan approves)
3) IF people want to see futa in this game, I can only say I would prefer to see it on NPC's and enemies, not on Peach. Coding for an additional body part on the main character when there are sooooo many animations in existance or already planned would just be impossible to work with.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby xPreatorianx » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:20 pm

Ivan - About the Suck mee & drinking cum scenes for the toads (the same can be said for the gloryhole scene) can you change the way she goes about sucking their dicks/drinking their cum? It's kind of weird. In my opinion she should be on all fours instead of lying down. You know like in all those hentai movies where the girl get's on all fours and sucks off the guy? That way she could also pleasure herself as well. I remember when you first introduced the glory hole scene and to be honest it was EXTREMELY awkward.

Well the new gloryhole scene now looks good. But for the rest of the toad scenes I mentioned could you make them look similar to this : This scene could also work for additional scenes where say a lesbian character fucks her with a dildo, eats her out, or something similar. I could see this happening between say Peach, Daisy, and a toad. Or hell Peach, Daisy and Roselina. (Whether dildos, eating out, or for those who like it futa)
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:32 pm

VintageBass Wrote:While I was in the bar, after getting Peach drunk, I got her to suck the bar Toad off and her scene's speech balloon was flipped. There's one location that needs fixing.

Cannot reproduce. I want to know exactly the area. Please take a screenshot if it happens again.

VintageBass Wrote:I said I've been using the pen tool. My problem is that I've been stroking these lines that makes them look blurry instead of the smoothness of a vectorized image. What I want to know is how can I make a vector image in Photoshop, that's all!

Or in illustrator. But the problem with photoshop is that the ending picture is saved AS BITMAP, not vector, and we need vectors. So it needs Illustrator AI file, SVG file, or Flash SWF file as outputs of these vectorized lines.
As Toy said above, when the end file is NOT those I've said above, they will be blurred when zoomed in, and MIM PUT can't use that (only in certain cases of certain floors and walls to gain performance even more).

Toyloli Wrote:I think the the aproximations should be: B C D E F G precisely. From a side angle that would then create a more even flow in sizes. (There are various methods for determining and creating these proportions, but we can discuss them later if Ivan approves)

I approve it.

Toyloli Wrote:Imo - while guy Peach does sound amusing and I have nothing against the principal I think this entire forum would lynch you if you essentially turned Peach into a guy. Which is what you'd be doing by making her boobless and adding a cock.

If I add a smaller boob size (B cup), it will be that: a smaller one, not the absent of it altogether.

xPreatorianx Wrote:Well the new gloryhole scene now looks good. But for the rest of the toad scenes I mentioned could you make them look similar to this : This scene could also work for additional scenes where say a lesbian character fucks her with a dildo, eats her out, or something similar. I could see this happening between say Peach, Daisy, and a toad. Or hell Peach, Daisy and Roselina. (Whether dildos, eating out, or for those who like it futa)

Those 2 to 3 'laid down' scenes were made by Blargh and they're good so far but yes, it would be nice to see Peach on fours and pleasuring herself as well. However, changing them is not like cut and paste, it needs relocation of bodyparts and a smooth procedure (tweening). I can do that later, for 1 or 2 scenes.
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Blargh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:15 am

Toyloli Wrote: - but certain members of this forum chewed me out over the gay thing in the past (hence my harping a little, and I apologise for that) so while I am all for the concept of having more content I can only come to three conclusions.

That's too bad. I remember a long while ago someone asked about adding male characters to MiM DO, and the results speak for themselves. But the thing is, I'd had plans (still do) to add male characters like Link for a few months before even getting the request. The only problems were in the outfits, which wouldn't fit the different male shapes, and the double-penetration scenes because the dicks were angled for ass and pussy so wouldn't work for double-anal. It's even possible to include male cumshots (although Peach's cum would have to be re-coded to work the same).

Toyloli Wrote:3) IF people want to see futa in this game, I can only say I would prefer to see it on NPC's and enemies, not on Peach. Coding for an additional body part on the main character when there are sooooo many animations in existance or already planned would just be impossible to work with.

As an additional piece in the Body object, it wouldn't take much effort at all. It would just add more work if you want it to move along with a particular scene plus a bit of additional code for cumshots.

However, since that isn't likely I at least promise that there will be extra Wendy scenes just for futa-lovers like me. :D And for futa-haters, the scenes will just be skipped (with the appropriate options selected), so everyone wins!
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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby Biles » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:05 am

*pokes outta the ground slurping loudly*

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Re: Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.17 (dec 09/13)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:09 am

OK. To change the topic, I finallay have free time to start back up on levels again. I plan to start on them this weekend or Wednesday and/or Friday. I recall Ivan giving me levels to make but I forgot which ones they were. I already did 6-4 and 6-5. I need to know what I'm missing.


Also, is there going to be an update tonight (or at least this week)?
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