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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby NoMoshing » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:09 pm

The July 2013 Release is now available! Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?x5pueafa2aj74bj

The full list of version changes is listed on the development blag.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby AllenAndArth » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:51 pm

NoMoshing Wrote:The July 2013 Release is now available! Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?x5pueafa2aj74bj

The full list of version changes is listed on the development blag.

I'm going to check out right now
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby NoMoshing » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:09 pm

There's a pretty big topic I'm discussing on the blog today that I'd love to get everyone's input on. Please check it out if you have time.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby yillsemkcuf » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:31 am

NoMoshing Wrote:There's a pretty big topic I'm discussing on the blog today that I'd love to get everyone's input on. Please check it out if you have time.

I like the plan, however, I think it's not going to work well.
2 Reasons

1- Most people don't want their friends family coworkers ect... to see porn game related stuff, they might recognize it, and that would be embarrassing.
2- It requires you to produce catchy things, tag lines, inside jokes ect... and they need to be GOOD. The other option is custom character stuff, this has the same problem with the addition of requiring your own well done characters, each of witch will need to target the audience in a specific way. For example, plush toys need to be ridiculously cute, shirts and printed items need to be work safe and have a target archetype. (I explained that badly, but I nevertheless believe it to be true.)

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First off my only complaint, In the most north-eastern town there is a maid in the inn that can make it impossible to leave, or move, or do anything. Its not a big thing, but It ended up taking a couple hours of my life so... yah

And then for my suggestions and or thoughts.
• The main character has no offensive abilities, if I'm stuck with a guy, id like him to hit hard.
• Random encounters: because you have a set number of creatures to fight, if I do things out of order some people won't get enough exp. This makes later things in the game impossible, or at least very unlikely to be beaten.
• Choice: because everything is preordained: the number of fights, abilities, characters, item availability; the game becomes less of a game, and more of a book. I act so that I see what happens next, but my actions don't affect anything, and I can't use different strategies. Total defense duel wielding ect...

-I suspect your plans would negate this but since I'm bothering to write I figured I'd write everything.

• Story line: I don't like that there is only one way to do things, I don't want to rape a mans wife and keep her from her kid the rest of her god given life, it makes me feel like shit, and if i wanted to feel that way I'd watch the news, its much quicker.

So there's my thoughts, feel free to slaughter them; but remember, each time you do God takes away some of tomorrows breakfast bacon. He used to kill kittens, but then he saw how fat everyone was and switched to bacon.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby AllenAndArth » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:55 pm

yillsemkcuf Wrote:
NoMoshing Wrote:There's a pretty big topic I'm discussing on the blog today that I'd love to get everyone's input on. Please check it out if you have time.

I like the plan, however, I think it's not going to work well.
2 Reasons

1- Most people don't want their friends family coworkers ect... to see porn game related stuff, they might recognize it, and that would be embarrassing.
2- It requires you to produce catchy things, tag lines, inside jokes ect... and they need to be GOOD. The other option is custom character stuff, this has the same problem with the addition of requiring your own well done characters, each of witch will need to target the audience in a specific way. For example, plush toys need to be ridiculously cute, shirts and printed items need to be work safe and have a target archetype. (I explained that badly, but I nevertheless believe it to be true.)

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First off my only complaint, In the most north-eastern town there is a maid in the inn that can make it impossible to leave, or move, or do anything. Its not a big thing, but It ended up taking a couple hours of my life so... yah

And then for my suggestions and or thoughts.
• The main character has no offensive abilities, if I'm stuck with a guy, id like him to hit hard.
• Random encounters: because you have a set number of creatures to fight, if I do things out of order some people won't get enough exp. This makes later things in the game impossible, or at least very unlikely to be beaten.
• Choice: because everything is preordained: the number of fights, abilities, characters, item availability; the game becomes less of a game, and more of a book. I act so that I see what happens next, but my actions don't affect anything, and I can't use different strategies. Total defense duel wielding ect...

-I suspect your plans would negate this but since I'm bothering to write I figured I'd write everything.

• Story line: I don't like that there is only one way to do things, I don't want to rape a mans wife and keep her from her kid the rest of her god given life, it makes me feel like shit, and if i wanted to feel that way I'd watch the news, its much quicker.

So there's my thoughts, feel free to slaughter them; but remember, each time you do God takes away some of tomorrows breakfast bacon. He used to kill kittens, but then he saw how fat everyone was and switched to bacon.

I agree on the stuff part...the one you talk about selling!
- the main char having offensive ability's...yeah it would be good!
-Random encounters...Yes please I would like some!
- choice...depends, but, if the char is chaotic neutral, some neutral choices would make the game more interactive.
-Items...no I thing it's fine, better if we get random encounters
- Story Line: the char is a douche... the author said so, if he changed to the way you want it would lose a lot of what makes it original, if you want a char with good and bad choices it would be better to chose another game, because the personality of this one is that way, what meaning would the char have for a harem of 151 women if he's goody goody? It wouldn't work for the game, if he's good
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Lucky777 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:12 pm

To start off with the important thing: The H-content is in a state previous to pre-alpha, or at least I hope it is.
It's not even a full skeleton to be fleshed out - it's a few bones strewn about, and they're missing fingers.
Someone called it "functional", and insofar as it doesn't crash the game when you get to an H-scene, I suppose it is, but In any other sense that description's over-generous.
Narration, description and detail would help, as one guy mentioned - something other than dialogue alone - since that's where like 90% of the fap value is.
You've already stated that you know the H needs work, though, and your writing shows competence with the English language, so it's probably just a matter of time.

As to the humour, I laughed at the loli scene - or rather at the pointed lack thereof - and the line about searching that one guy's chamber pot was pretty funny too.

As to the plot, what I've seen of it was pretty cool.
I'm literally sure I haven't seen all of it, but I've played as much of it as jumped out at me, and the concept is pretty neat.
I'm not rescuing anyone from getting gangbanged though, so if that's a mandatory quest, I've seen all I will of the main plot in this game.

A couple suggestions:
1)You could consider gating off each and every one of the dungeons with the same "You can't leave once you enter. Enter? Y/N" prompt as is in the tutorial.
It's no good to have one's exploration interrupted by mistakenly entering an area one can't exit, after all.

2) You could consider enabling the option to sell stuff at vendors or item shops other than your own item shop; it's annoying to see the option inexplicably greyed out.

As to your IRL plan, as far as selling actual merchandise goes, it seems to me like you wouldn't even make back the money you laid out to have the t-shirts and shit printed.
Maybe if the game was more popular or something, but you're either going to be selling actual porn merchandise (comparatively small market) or injokes about a porn game
(game needs popularity first, and something to justify that popularity is a prerequisite - and even then not the whole fanbase would buy). Your call, but I wouldn't bother.

The whole "donation" model seems to be doing relatively well for porn games and whatnot for the time being, anyway.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Aetrun » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:52 am

Ok- I'll post over here since the comments on the blog seem to not want to work for me.

I don't buy things usually, in part because I don't need the extra stuff taking up my limited space. That being said, I think that if you can make it work that this would be a good idea, but the points about needing a larger fan base first may be true.
Perhaps an extension to this would be to buy a Credits Line in the game, perhaps make a book, or a couple of books that sit in the guild, and anyone who wants may "purchase" recognition in the book for their contribution to the establishment of the realm or some such. Have one book for donations of $10 and under, and one that is for larger sums and title them accordingly in some amusing manner. Those who had already donated could be added if they wish under whatever name they want and someone like me who doesn't want to purchase a physical product but would want to support such a model could have something to buy, or even if you decide to stay with the donation model for now, it could be an enticement for some to donate.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Kuragari » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:27 am

So, has the game been updated?
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby hoboy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:21 am

Um - the top of this page has the latest release. NoMoshing does a monthly release, and the last was not even 2 weeks ago...
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby NoMoshing » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:08 pm

Yillsemkcuf
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yillsemkcuf Wrote:• The main character has no offensive abilities, if I'm stuck with a guy, id like him to hit hard.


The main character is meant to be a support hero, buffing the other characters while getting in a decent hit or two. To be honest, Final Fantasy-style heroes who can do everything well with every other character being patently inferior kind of annoy me.

• Random encounters: because you have a set number of creatures to fight, if I do things out of order some people won't get enough exp. This makes later things in the game impossible, or at least very unlikely to be beaten.


I don't want to have grinding or farming in the game, because I don't think those things are fun. There will be more low-level content as time goes on, it's just a matter of me working it all out.

• Choice: because everything is preordained: the number of fights, abilities, characters, item availability; the game becomes less of a game, and more of a book. I act so that I see what happens next, but my actions don't affect anything, and I can't use different strategies. Total defense duel wielding ect...


It's pretty disappointing to hear something like that when I've worked hard to put a lot of other content in the game. But if it's any consolation, at the moment I'm focusing on Adventurer's Guild quests, in the final version the AG stuff will be one of four different quest paths to explore. There will be three other quest paths- one where you play the game of houses with the other noble families (with the Hero's own spin on that) and get a village of your own to lord over, one where you attempt to save the elven race from dying out, and one where you work as a bodyguard/explorer/gofer for an archaeologist. You will be able to bounce between all four lines at a whim, on top of there being many random side quests for you to complete.

• Story line: I don't like that there is only one way to do things, I don't want to rape a mans wife and keep her from her kid the rest of her god given life, it makes me feel like shit, and if i wanted to feel that way I'd watch the news, its much quicker.


Given the number of complaints about that one scene, don't be surprised if it disappears sooner or later. But as for the Hero's general douchey-ness, don't expect that to change. This isn't a game about playing a traditional RPG hero who happens to have sex with everyone.


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Lucky777 Wrote:To start off with the important thing: The H-content is in a state previous to pre-alpha, or at least I hope it is.
It's not even a full skeleton to be fleshed out - it's a few bones strewn about, and they're missing fingers.


Yeeowch. Well, I guess that's the sort of criticism that I need to hear from time to time. But yes, I am working on it, I've got someone helping me out with CGs, and you'll start seeing described (new) scenes in the next release and thereafter I'll start rewriting old stuff.

I laughed at the loli scene - or rather at the pointed lack thereof


I've received more than one email where people rage about that scene and say they're never playing HC again, and every time I read one it reinforces how awesome that scene is. I get to troll my players *and* a lot of people love it *and* I shake loose a bunch of dudes into CP? Win-win-win.

I'm not rescuing anyone from getting gangbanged though, so if that's a mandatory quest, I've seen all I will of the main plot in this game.


So, you want to see someone get gangbanged? You want to be told to rescue someone from being gangbanged and just stand there and watch (or join in)? Or are you explicitly referring to saving Florine from the orcs?
I require more information.
But as I mentioned above to Yillsemkcuf, there will be four different quest lines, and all you have to do is gather all the girls possible in the game (which will require completing about half of each quest line) and finish one of those lines to get the "ending". Then the game will kick you back to your manor bedroom and you can go about the rest of the game.

1)You could consider gating off each and every one of the dungeons with the same "You can't leave once you enter. Enter? Y/N" prompt as is in the tutorial.
It's no good to have one's exploration interrupted by mistakenly entering an area one can't exit, after all.


*whines* Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
No, seriously, that's a good idea. It shouldn't be too hard to implement, but I guess I'm just lazy.

2) You could consider enabling the option to sell stuff at vendors or item shops other than your own item shop; it's annoying to see the option inexplicably greyed out.


But not every shop in the game is a pawn shop. Florine's shop(s) are meant to be that Florine buys your stuff and turns around to sell it to other people, while buying potions and such wholesale to send your way. If I can figure out to have different selling prices for various items, I might put a legitimate pawnbroker in each town in the game, if only so that you don't *have* to wait to rescue Florine before you can unload your vendor trash.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby yillsemkcuf » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:29 am

In response
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NoMoshing Wrote:Yillsemkcuf
yillsemkcuf Wrote:• The main character has no offensive abilities, if I'm stuck with a guy, id like him to hit hard.

The main character is meant to be a support hero, buffing the other characters while getting in a decent hit or two. To be honest, Final Fantasy-style heroes who can do everything well with every other character being patently inferior kind of annoy me.

Fair Enough
NoMoshing Wrote:
• Random encounters: because you have a set number of creatures to fight, if I do things out of order some people won't get enough exp. This makes later things in the game impossible, or at least very unlikely to be beaten.

I don't want to have grinding or farming in the game, because I don't think those things are fun. There will be more low-level content as time goes on, it's just a matter of me working it all out.

Again; fair enough, but I still believe you need to put "grind-able" monsters in somewhere, even if its just one in arena somewhere, in the event that your characters become underdeveloped.
NoMoshing Wrote:
• Choice: because everything is preordained: the number of fights, abilities, characters, item availability; the game becomes less of a game, and more of a book. I act so that I see what happens next, but my actions don't affect anything, and I can't use different strategies. Total defense duel wielding ect...

It's pretty disappointing to hear something like that when I've worked hard to put a lot of other content in the game. But if it's any consolation, at the moment I'm focusing on Adventurer's Guild quests, in the final version the AG stuff will be one of four different quest paths to explore. There will be three other quest paths- one where you play the game of houses with the other noble families (with the Hero's own spin on that) and get a village of your own to lord over, one where you attempt to save the elven race from dying out, and one where you work as a bodyguard/explorer/gofer for an archaeologist. You will be able to bounce between all four lines at a whim, on top of there being many random side quests for you to complete.

I'm sorry your disappointed, and your solution sounds like fun.
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• Story line: I don't like that there is only one way to do things, I don't want to rape a mans wife and keep her from her kid the rest of her god given life, it makes me feel like shit, and if i wanted to feel that way I'd watch the news, its much quicker.

Given the number of complaints about that one scene, don't be surprised if it disappears sooner or later. But as for the Hero's general douche-ness, don't expect that to change. This isn't a game about playing a traditional RPG hero who happens to have sex with everyone.

I understand that, I was hoping for the options of Douche, uber Douche, and ultra Douche. NOT Good neutral and douche.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Grape_Drink » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:10 am

I've officially wasted away about 3 hours on this game that I should've been spending with other things...

Kudos to yah man. I like it!

Now I think I'm boned though. Was using a single save for the last hour or so and I can't beat this necromancer for the life of me... Can't leave the dungeon, so I figure I'll have to go back and try again from a good ways back. (sad day...)

Ah well.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Lucky777 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:41 pm

NoMoshing Wrote:But not every shop in the game is a pawn shop.


Makes sense enough.
Even if not all shops are willing to buy stuff from the player, perhaps all of a certain type of shop would be willing to.
Just off the top of my head, without checking the game again, I think
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is an item shop with the same sign as your own, so perhaps all of those types of shops with that sign could be willing to buy stuff from the player. Whatever works, though.

NoMoshing Wrote:(1)So, you want to see someone get gangbanged?
(2)You want to be told to rescue someone from being gangbanged and just stand there and watch (or join in)?
(3)Or are you explicitly referring to saving Florine from the orcs?


(Numbers supplied)
All of the above.
(1) and (2) take precedence, and are the reason I won't complete the quest spoken about at (3).
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby NoMoshing » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:35 pm

Lucky777 Wrote:
NoMoshing Wrote:(1)So, you want to see someone get gangbanged?
(2)You want to be told to rescue someone from being gangbanged and just stand there and watch (or join in)?
(3)Or are you explicitly referring to saving Florine from the orcs?

(Numbers supplied)
All of the above.
(1) and (2) take precedence, and are the reason for (3).


Just wanted to get this in real quick: I'm working on a wuest right now where it makes sense to see a party member get gangbanged, so adding that kind of scene is low priority but I do have a great place to throw that in.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Lucky777 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:56 pm

Cool.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby bmn » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:46 pm

Is there anywhere a walktrough or something for this game? Because im stuck at very beginning, i talked to estate agent and he told me to find "loan shark" and poof, there it ends. No word where find him, who to talk. Also no help like "active" quests or anything that would point you towards any direction:/
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby moonblack » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Talk to the guy again and you'll get some clue where to go.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby dndman997 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:31 pm

were im at im not sure if there are anymore quests for me, ive did the zombie one, and the strange clock quest
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby NoMoshing » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:59 pm

NoMoshing Wrote:
Lucky777 Wrote:
NoMoshing Wrote:(1)So, you want to see someone get gangbanged?
(2)You want to be told to rescue someone from being gangbanged and just stand there and watch (or join in)?
(3)Or are you explicitly referring to saving Florine from the orcs?

(Numbers supplied)
All of the above.
(1) and (2) take precedence, and are the reason for (3).


Just wanted to get this in real quick: I'm working on a wuest right now where it makes sense to see a party member get gangbanged, so adding that kind of scene is low priority but I do have a great place to throw that in.


It's done, one of the quests in the new release you can just sit by and watch a party member get gangraped.
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Re: Harem Collector (RPG MAker VX Ace)

Postby Darthan » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:33 am

Been following this game for awhile and finally got around to messing with stuff to see what all was there and noticed a few things that no one seems to have pointed out.

First the bugs:
There a a couple of places that the "Hero" is using the wrong portrait. The only one that I can remember right now is when you select any of the upgrade/gratification options when you have already purchased all of them.
There were a few places that Meline is using the wrong portrait, can't remember those so will need to update when I get to those parts. The entire intro has her using the incorrect portrait and sprite. Kinda surprised no one has pointed this out yet.
It is impossible to get the info about which room is the guard captain's, thus making it difficult to blackmail him, because you forgot to set the self switch a is on condition in the second page of the janitor's event so he will only say that he didn't see you.
You cannot collect Alina's second level of gifts because you set the priority to below character instead of same as character.

Next a few suggestions:
It seems odd that you can rest in your bed in the bakery and restore your health but you cannot rest in your bed in your estate or in the condo. You may want to change that. It would also be nice if resting advanced time since right now it seems the only way to do so right now is by completing quests, certain events, or the timeturner.
I also agree that the event in the itemshop in Eastfort really did make me feel like crap and I told the cannery owner to cut the brats pay so I could make more money. I remember you saying something about thinking about changing that and really hope you do.

And finally a few questions:
Do you plan on making a way that you can get Larelle to willing join you if you get her submission high enough or is that just a way to have some fun with her?
How many girls can you currently add to your harem? I think I found them all but want to make sure.
Do all of the girls have benefits to raising their affection or do only certain ones have benefits?

As far as the idea on selling merchandise you may want to consider creating a logo for No Moshing's Games and create merchandise with that since most people wouldn't think twice about someone walking down the street with a t-shirt on the has the logo a name of a game company, even if they have no idea who that company is.
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