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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Residentlover2 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:54 pm

peach and krystal sounds great to me!

i think that the scene needs a dialogue and depending on what you say you decide if fuck with krystal or not.....(same with daisy or other girl)
English is not my main language :P
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:57 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:I'm just baffled by this poll. How are half of these even supposed to work? Daisy is there? What about the first meet-up at world 2...

Stop right here! DIdnt you check the entire phrase?
'Daisy will go to world2 palace, where she belongs. Peach will be alone in the bathroom thereafter.'

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wouldn't it destroy the magic a bit if you just find her at the castle, bathing Peach? Why would she do that? Why is she allowed to do that?

Lets see the votes.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Rosalina too.

Lets see.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Now, I am against Toadella too, because she isn't from any Mario game. She was just made up by Blargh.

I appreciate Blargh work. Let's see the votes.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:So, that would just leave two options: Peach on her own and your choice.

My choice will depend on two things in the future. When the voting poll ends, we will talk about this.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Sorry Ivan, but this is something I had to get off my chest.

Me too.

Asian Wrote: I....

ASIAN!!!!!!!!!!! You're BACK!! You're right, I'll think about th....

Asian Wrote:*Flying*

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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:15 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:I'm just baffled by this poll. How are half of these even supposed to work? Daisy is there? What about the first meet-up at world 2...

Stop right here! DIdnt you check the entire phrase?
'Daisy will go to world2 palace, where she belongs. Peach will be alone in the bathroom thereafter.'

I did, actually. Which is the reason why I posted that in the first place. Can you explain to me why Daisy is in the bathroom in the first place? And why would she just leave then? That would mean this setup (Peach getting washed by Daisy) can only occur for a brief moment. Better have Peach naked in the bath from the get-go then.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wouldn't it destroy the magic a bit if you just find her at the castle, bathing Peach? Why would she do that? Why is she allowed to do that?

Let's see the votes.

Remember, I told you we don't need to get rid of this model. We could make her into a robot created by E. Gadd for this exact purpose. Toadella would still look and act the same, but you didn't want to do that. That's the only explanation I could give you that allowed for both our ways.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby LuftMallow » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:19 pm

I agree with Quiz on this one. Either remove Toadella and have Peach go solo or keep her to maintain the other characters' places in the storyline. I didn't make her specifically for the bath scenes, Toadella was only made to fill out the old character selection. Blargh was the one who made the scenes containing her. I do find it odd that Ivan's game essentially has two Toadettes in it. So it might be a good idea to remove the one who has no characterization.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:22 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:I did, actually. Which is the reason why I posted that in the first place. Can you explain to me why Daisy is in the bathroom in the first place? And why would she just leave then?

Daisy has a castle to rule, in this game. Daisy can be invited to Peach castle, why not? Both know each other before the game.
But you're right, scripts might need to be done. HOWEVER. Not a MUST, because TOADELLA doesnt talk to Peach anyway. TOADELLA , like you said, isnt' an official Mario character. I will only retain her if people wants it.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Peach getting washed by Daisy can only occur for a brief moment. Better have Peach naked in the bath from the get-go then.

In SUPER MARIO RPG, we only see the Samus easter egg once, and we have to be quick and explorative. In this game, I can even put clues (before Peach goes off from her castle) to make the player go to the bathroom. Oh! That scene can be seen in the gallery at any time. And depending on the game situation, Daisy can be there (e.g. If Peach is in world 3) so reapparances of Daisy are still possible. But for now, she will appear once, because she needs to rule her castle (and try to protect it from the airship there). And Peach will have some scenes with her in that castle AND in a given forest level.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Remember, I told you we don't need to get rid of this model. We could make her into a robot created by E. Gadd for this exact purpose.

A ROBOT?????? Come on, Quiz, NOT that please! ROBOT??? Washing Peach? You guys really hate a good , pure and exciting FLESH on FLESH interactions.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:26 pm

Calling Blargh!!
LuftMallow Wrote:Toadella was only made to fill out the old character selection. Blargh was the one who made the scenes containing her. I do find it odd that Ivan's game essentially has two Toadettes in it. So it might be a good idea to remove the one who has no characterization.

I like Toadella and I already have a feeling she IS a toad, but almost an human. Like an 'older brother' of their race. Almost a mutant, really.
She is more prone to even protect the other toads, but she is a bit obscure (like Flavio).Toadella can even be regarded as a mother of Toadette (or an aunt). Nobody knows.
I wont remove her interaction with Peach because the animation between the two is unicque, and a well done work by Blargh. What I can do is to put this scene in other areas, and with other characters (like Krystal and Peach, or Daisy and Peach) since the characters share the same body parts (sometimes a bit larger belly/leg/head, but its easy to replace). But yes, Toadella herself can cease to exist. A possibilty.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:39 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:I did, actually. Which is the reason why I posted that in the first place. Can you explain to me why Daisy is in the bathroom in the first place? And why would she just leave then?

Daisy has a castle to rule, in this game. Daisy can be invited to Peach castle, why not? Both know each other before the game.
But you're right, scripts might need to be done. HOWEVER. Not a MUST, because Toadella doesnt talk to Peach anyway. Toadella, like you said, isnt' an official Mario character. I will only retain her if people wants it.

Daisy has a castle to rule, so she should be there, no? Why would she come to the castle, Mario is freaking kidnapped!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Peach getting washed by Daisy can only occur for a brief moment. Better have Peach naked in the bath from the get-go then.

In SUPER MARIO RPG, we only see the Samus easter egg once, and we have to be quick and explorative. In this game, I can even put clues (before Peach goes off from her castle) to make the player go to the bathroom. Oh! That scene can be seen in the gallery at any time. And depending on the game situation, Daisy can be there (e.g. If Peach is in world 3) so reapparances of Daisy are still possible. But for now, she will appear once, because she needs to rule her castle (and try to protect it from the airship there). And Peach will have some scenes with her in that castle AND in a given forest level.

That's just a little easter egg. This is a scene in MiM PUT. I thought you wanted to make it so all the scenes are accessible at any time WITHOUT going to the gallery? People made a ruckus over that, remember? You did too.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Remember, I told you we don't need to get rid of this model. We could make her into a robot created by E. Gadd for this exact purpose.

A ROBOT?????? Come on, Quiz, NOT that please! ROBOT??? Washing Peach? You guys really hate a good , pure and exciting FLESH on FLESH interactions.

But I already told you, she'd still be fleshy, she'd just be a robot in name...

Wait. You know what? You are absolutely right. This is about your preference, right? I thought another preference of yours was ENF?
Which Toadella basically doesn't fit in! Why would Peach allow Toadella (or anything else for that matter) to clean her with sexual moves? She is supposed to be a pure maiden! If Peach would wash, it could only be on her own, or with Mario, who isn't here, so Peach has to self-wash herself.
Krystal and Rosalina would definitely not fit in this category (Rosalina doesn't know what sex is and both Rosalina and Krystal have never met Peach before). Why would Peach allow them to do this? It would go squarely against your idea that Peach is pure and embarrassed.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:46 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Toadette IS official, Toadella isn't.

Sorry, a typo. So: 'TOADELLA , like you said, isnt' an official Mario character. I will only retain her if people wants it.'

QuizmasterBos Wrote:And yes, Daisy has a castle to rule, so she should be there, no? Why would she come to the castle, Mario is freaking kidnapped!

Women use to play with themselves (dolls, a cup of tea), so I dont see any problem of Daisy being there because Peach invited her during the sunlight.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:That's just a little easter egg. This is a scene in MiM PUT. I thought you wanted to make it so all the scenes are accessible at any time WITHOUT going to the gallery? People made a ruckus over that, remember? You did too.

People would like to see Peach alone.
Other people would like to see Peach AND a friend.
Why not pressing a button to call that friend, then? But this wont disable this voting pool in any way.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:But I already told you, she'd still be fleshy, she'd just be a robot in name...

The answer is no.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait. You know what? You are absolutely right. This is about your preference, right? I thought another preference of yours was ENF? Which Toadella basically doesn't fit in! Why would Peach allow Toadella (or anything else for that matter) to clean her with sexual moves? She is supposed to be a pure maiden! If Peach would wash, it could only be on her own, or with Mario, who isn't here, so Peach has to self-wash herself.

So lets see how people react, and we will talk about this later. But Peach can argue to that person (Daisy , Krystal or whoever is there). "Why you...you are...in my bathroom??" Remember people (ME TOO!) want to activate scenes too. An embarassed Peach alone all the time isnt sexy.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Krystal and Rosalina would definitely not fit in this category (Rosalina doesn't know what sex is and both Rosalina and Krystal have never met Peach before). Why would Peach allow them to do this? It would go squarely against your idea that Peach is pure and embarrassed.

Toadella (or other female) is WASHING her right now, not making any tribadism or other scene.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby MPLDAM9919 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:51 pm

Hmmmm...This new poll is kinda tricky...I think I'll go with Peach only because it makes the most sense.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:55 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:And yes, Daisy has a castle to rule, so she should be there, no? Why would she come to the castle, Mario is freaking kidnapped!

Women use to play with themselves (dolls, a cup of tea), so I dont see any problem of Daisy being there because Peach invited her during the sunlight.

I still don't see the logic here. It just makes matters more difficult, without really providing anything new. You'd use the old Toadella washing animations anyway.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:That's just a little easter egg. This is a scene in MiM PUT. I thought you wanted to make it so all the scenes are accessible at any time WITHOUT going to the gallery? People made a ruckus over that, remember? You did too.

People would like to see Peach alone.
Other people would like to see Peach AND a friend.
Why not pressing a button to call that friend, then? But this wont disable this voting pool in any way.

Hmmm, maybe. BUT, it's important we research this first.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait. You know what? You are absolutely right. This is about your preference, right? I thought another preference of yours was ENF? Which Toadella basically doesn't fit in! Why would Peach allow Toadella (or anything else for that matter) to clean her with sexual moves? She is supposed to be a pure maiden! If Peach would wash, it could only be on her own, or with Mario, who isn't here, so Peach has to self-wash herself.

So lets see how people react, and we will talk about this later. But Peach can argue to that person (Daisy , Krystal or whoever is there). "Why you...you are...in my bathroom??"

If she's surprised to see someone in her bath, that doesn't mean she'll allow that character to perform sexual acts on her.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Krystal and Rosalina would definitely not fit in this category (Rosalina doesn't know what sex is and both Rosalina and Krystal have never met Peach before). Why would Peach allow them to do this? It would go squarely against your idea that Peach is pure and embarrassed.

Toadella (or other female) is WASHING her right now, not making any tribadism or other scene.

Uh, cunnilingus, breast massage, nipple sucking, fingering? That's what Toadella is doing right now in the bath. That's not just washing, right?
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:09 am

Xnaut scene 2 on progress. Looks like he wants to play with Peach butt before fucking her.
Acording to my improvements here, scenes will be more and more 'ENF' friendly. Peach wont be accepting every scene. Some of them is triggered by the enemy, who makes Peach surprised. The pic below hasnt Peach expressions (e.g. her eyes will be lidded, mouth open, etc). Its just an idle model depicting the scene. Also, his right hand/arm needs fixing.

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QuizmasterBos Wrote:If she's surprised to see someone in her bath, that doesn't mean she'll allow that character to perform sexual acts on her.

QUIZ!!! Remember, We control Peach. She IS embarassed and she doesnt want sexual things easily, but we can force her to do that. She can even look at us with an embarassed face. It will be like Peach is doing that because she feels it ('huh... I want it, I dont know why'). I will ALWAYS make you remember of SUEHIROGARI. He is a GURU in those ENF comics. I envy him. ;) In his stories, we always see arousing scenes because he does in a way that the character, even being embarassed and saying 'I WONT DO IT', ends up doing it.

So YES, we can have control of the situations Peach is.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Uh, cunnilingus, breast massage, nipple sucking, fingering? That's what Toadella is doing right now in the bath. That's not just washing, right?

Its the way she does to clean her well. She can say that to Peach 'you're dirty here, my damnsel', and Peach say 'WHAT??', she can even argue against but...she's a bit ditzy and she ends up accepting it. Dont try to convince me, Peach WONT be disagreeing totally on things. This will make the game harder and less arousing. For sure there will be actions that needs the player to find out, but scenes in the bath CAN be triggered if we want to. Of course, adding ENF scenes to that scene WILL make the scene better but remember we prefer to make a given scene (e.g. daisy), THEN work on it later, with more scenes/sub scenes, making it more ENF friendly.

Short answer: In scenes, Peach IS screwed up / bugged / embarassed / naked right away. In future scenes / alterations / addons, Peach can be ENF first, and the user can activate / force her to accept it, or this can be done if Peach is a nympth. LATER. This is NOT a priority. We can choose: NO scenes, OR 1/2 direct scenes, which will be increased to 3/4, with ENF pre scenes. Of course, I am working on this (like charlieton, Wrench Guys and soon, X-naut scene 2). Peach wont be just bending over her , exposing her ass and shaking it. Enemies push her down, or she slips down for example.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby AsianP3rsuas10n » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:46 am

Instead of the ending to each world be saving a toad...why not saving a princess that adds onto each of the bath scene? ;)
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby VintageBass » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:48 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:But I already told you, she'd still be fleshy, she'd just be a robot in name...


I know what you're talking about. It's basically like a second skin covering the metal surface, or even a synthetic version that's durable and covers the running parts. I could see that. Then again, why hasn't E. Gadd built a sexbot for his own pleasure? He's gotta be smart enough to build a robot.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Krystal and Rosalina would definitely not fit in this category (Rosalina doesn't know what sex is and both Rosalina and Krystal have never met Peach before). Why would Peach allow them to do this? It would go squarely against your idea that Peach is pure and embarrassed.


Well if this is about bathing and going with what you are saying, then Rosalina is a good candidate to clean Peach. After all Rosalina doesn't have prior knowledge to sex so she could clean Peach without doing the things Toadella is doing now. Though explaining how Rosalina is doing in Peach's castle early on is going to raise some questions...

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Uh, cunnilingus, breast massage, nipple sucking, fingering? That's what Toadella is doing right now in the bath. That's not just washing, right?


Granted I don't have all the parts, but you can get clean AND not get turned on by massaging your breasts and fingering your pussy, provided you're not rubbing the areas that could stimulate you, right? But cunnilingus and nipple sucking? Yeah that's not going to work. What's so wrong with just having one or two girls cleaning themselves normally?
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:04 am

AsianP3rsuas10n Wrote:Instead of the ending to each world be saving a toad...why not saving a princess that adds onto each of the bath scene? ;)

Possible. But we dont have each princess available to each palace. We have even males. For sure some will like males helping Peach in her bath but its her intimate area, so we should restrain this area to fewer people, or just one girl (like Krystal) or just Peach herself. BUT AGAIN, we could have a button which call a given female there.

VintageBass Wrote:Well if this is about bathing and going with what you are saying, then Rosalina is a good candidate to clean Peach. After all Rosalina doesn't have prior knowledge to sex so she could clean Peach without doing the things Toadella is doing now. Though explaining how Rosalina is doing in Peach's castle early on is going to raise some questions...

Lets say the voters want me to decide, and I end up adding Rosalina. I will need to create scenes from scratch (not a problem anyway) because the current ones are a bit...daring. Then I can dismiss Toadella (she will be a free civilian of Mushroom Kingdom and we might not see her ever again) and I can put Daisy or Krystal instead, in a given LAKE scene in world 4, reusing that arousing scene (cunnilingus, nipple cleaning etc).

Peach being alone in the bath is a possibility. I'll think about the 'call a character' button (so Peach doesnt need to be alone all the time). Maybe Peach can call Daisy, Rosalina, etc, depending of the world won, (its like they're accessible for Peach to call for). But remember, we dont have many female ones and I want to reuse bodyparts and scenes. If its interesting to see Toadette (the original toad), it will be another character style with others scenes and reactions. Low priority.

VintageBass Wrote:Yeah that's not going to work. What's so wrong with just having one or two girls cleaning themselves normally?

This is a XXX game, please remember. And Peach is hot for the characters in Mushroom Kingdom. But yes I want to create/ask something to help me create a scene(s) that is innocent. But nasty scenes are still interesting (of course!) Creativity can also lead us to make a innocent scene but with some nastiness inside.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:22 am

Xnaut Scene2 completed!
UPLOADED.

Complexity level: moderate -> 34 x 21 keyframes of parts = 714 MANUAL positionings.
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Average of manual positionings of all scenes in the game so far: => 57 scenes x 600 manual positionings = 34200 TOTAL MANUAL positionings.
Now imagine if I need to make 60 more scenes in order to make myself say : 'NOW its how I want it to be in numbers'. 71000 TOTAL MANUAL positionings and beyond. And flash supports up to 16,000 objects (images, animations, sounds..). I have almost 4,600 so far. So, 11,400 left. Lets say I want to use 6000 of them for 6,000 new scenes. So, 100 x 71,000 (1,710,000). And I still have 5,400 movie clips left. Cool! As I move a given piece from 1 to 10 seconds, I might use 17,100,000 seconds to make all those 6,000 scenes (4750 hours = 197 days NON stop). Counting the time to sleep (6 to 8 hours a day) and daily work (6 to 8 hours) + families, duties, this time increases up to 4 fold => 800 days to make 6,000 scenes, without counting TESTING! I might be mad.

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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Blargh » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:44 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Calling Blargh!!
LuftMallow Wrote:Toadella was only made to fill out the old character selection. Blargh was the one who made the scenes containing her. I do find it odd that Ivan's game essentially has two Toadettes in it. So it might be a good idea to remove the one who has no characterization.

I like Toadella and I already have a feeling she IS a toad, but almost an human. Like an 'older brother' of their race. Almost a mutant, really.
She is more prone to even protect the other toads, but she is a bit obscure (like Flavio).Toadella can even be regarded as a mother of Toadette (or an aunt). Nobody knows.
I wont remove her interaction with Peach because the animation between the two is unicque, and a well done work by Blargh. What I can do is to put this scene in other areas, and with other characters (like Krystal and Peach, or Daisy and Peach) since the characters share the same body parts (sometimes a bit larger belly/leg/head, but its easy to replace). But yes, Toadella herself can cease to exist. A possibilty.


Toadette (is she being called Toadella now?), as I understood it, was supposed to be a sexy adult version of the actual Toadette.

The bath scene involved a servant Toadette, who is just another random Toadette similar to how there's multiple Toads. Playshapes' original Peach was basically naïve about sex, but knew what it was. So, the bath scene involves a servant that is sexing up the Princess because everyone (ex: the Chancellor and the Toads calling out to her) likes to take advantage of her naivety to get some from the sexy, sort of slutty Princess.

That being said, I have no idea what the context of the bath scene currently is, so I can't really give a good opinion. >_> All I can say is, if Peach is still naïve and sort of slutty, there shouldn't be a problem leaving the bath scene as is no matter where it is, with an attendant that takes advantage of Peach's inexperience, unless it's somewhere where having another person around would be highly unlikely (although explanations are easy for almost every situation).
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby coolness32 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:57 am

(Before I post I don't know if she is Toadette or Toadella so I will just use Toadella)

I have an idea for Toadella. Peach is a Princess, and as such it makes sense that she would have someone that would scrub her clean. How about if the Toadella character washes Peach based on Peaches status? If Peach is a virgin Toadella just washes her like normal, if Peach is a nympho, then Peach wants her to pleasure her. It would also make some sense if the bath character was available at all shower checkpoint thingies. Maybe a pop up can pop up and say "Do you need help washing yourself Peach?" and the player can click yes or no. That it self could actually be based on Peach's status as well. If Peach is a virgin Toadella can show up and make it so that enemies don't see Peach, kinda playing lookout. This way you can keep a character in the game and basically turn her into a bath servant to Peach.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Vice-a-Roni » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:04 am

Sorry. Can I just say some things? I know I don't exactly frequent the forum, but I saw this dilemma going on here and thought I'd give my input.

First, I love your work, Ivan/Blargh/Luft/Biles/Quiz/anybody else I'm ignorantly omitting. I love how vast this game is, and am eager to see what it becomes.

Now, addressing the most recent issue, I see no reason to fight the introduction of said character, "Toadella". It would be nice to get some dialogue explaining her presence, but you can introduce a random face without deviating from the canon. Why anybody would feel the need to keep this 100% true to canon is beyond me; it's a sex-game about an E to E10 franchise. Of course you're taking liberties.

I think it's great that you're all able to work together on this, but I know you can all come to an agreement.

If a new character is a huge issue, then the only other character I see as an option right now that *could* be true to canon is Pauline. That could be an interesting cameo or shout-out.

If this bath scene is such an issue, then my idea for the writing direction (as an objective fan of your games) would be to make the person bathing her a sort of a mentor figure. Peach is initially naive, but then becomes sexually experienced as the game goes on, right? So this character (Pauline/Toadella/etc.) would be a sort of guide for her, trying to bring her out of her sexual shell, and offering bits of supportive/instructive dialogue (which I don't think would be too hard to write) throughout the game. (I think I read that these bath scenes were going to be spread throughout the game, right?)

Anyway, I enjoy the game. I enthusiastically await each update, and the scenes really turn me on. But, I know you all have schedules to keep, and I'm happy to wait however long for each update. Keep up the good work, everybody. Your work continues to amaze me. But, remember to take care of yourselves too.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 17/13)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:32 am

Blargh Wrote:Toadette (is she being called Toadella now?), as I understood it, was supposed to be a sexy adult version of the actual Toadette.

Toadella is named like this since version 1.7, on 26th october ;)
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2265&p=186111&hilit=toadella#p186111
Update 1.7
1- Added Birdo by Biles (I need to make breathing animation and egg spitting mechanics yet).
1.2- Added Toad by Biles (I still need to add the new Toadette aside of Toadella, and Chancellor)
2- SAVE/LOAD buttons returned. Save/Load mechanism working! BUT it may have bugs yet!


This make me remember of Worldmap2 (the beginning):
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And I remember when Asian said we might have more pages in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2265&hilit=toadella&start=1940#p186274

Blargh Wrote:The bath scene involved a servant Toadette, who is just another random Toadette similar to how there's multiple Toads. Playshapes' original Peach was basically naïve about sex, but knew what it was.

Naive = Ditzy. We're talking the same language ;)

Blargh Wrote:That being said, I have no idea what the context of the bath scene currently is, so I can't really give a good opinion.

We will have a new Peach castle, a lot more complex. There, it will be almost an entire level, with ladders, a dozen of rooms, a kitchen and even sewers! So, when Peach takes a bath, we can have a 'lonely bath', and a 'maid as servant' bath. The context is just a bath, but with new scenes, with a ditzy Peach being embarassed/innocent AND a whore one (we now call 'Craving for Sex' or 'Nymph').

Blargh Wrote: >_> All I can say is, if Peach is still naïve and sort of slutty, there shouldn't be a problem leaving the bath scene as is no matter where it is, with an attendant that takes advantage of Peach's inexperience, unless it's somewhere where having another person around would be highly unlikely (although explanations are easy for almost every situation).

I agree. We dont need to be so dictatorial about the scenes. Like I said above, we (players) can force Peach to be....'slutier' as we please.

coolness32 Wrote:(Before I post I don't know if she is Toadette or Toadella so I will just use Toadella)

Toadella.

coolness32 Wrote:How about if the Toadella character washes Peach based on Peaches status? If Peach is a virgin Toadella just washes her like normal, if Peach is a nympho, then Peach wants her to pleasure her.

And we will need yet another scene (maybe a general one) when Peach is alone. We need to be a less ambitious here, in order to have time to make those scenes.
There is a man who are helping me: OwnerOfSuccuby. When I have the running embarassed and jumping embarassed, as well as 'playing with veggies' (I might create those animations too), I can ask Owner to see if innocent scenes of Peach and Toadella in the bath are possible (Toadella might be changed to Daisy/Krystal).

coolness32 Wrote:It would also make some sense if the bath character was available at all shower checkpoint thingies.

Please stop! Although interesting, are we going to see Krystal or Toadella all the time, in all shower checkpoints? I still see lonely Peach taking a bath there as enough. But yes, why not a walking Krystal who is waiting there (just for fun) and we can ask her to cover the innocent Peach? (a kind of embarassing help)? Both can be inside of the booth as well but these require new scenes/animations.

But in regard to 'normal innocent scenes' I really prefer something nasty happening, just to see Peach expression: 'hey, noooo', and maybe getting a bit aroused.

Vice-a-Roni Wrote:First, I love your work, Ivan/Blargh/Luft/Biles/Quiz/anybody else I'm ignorantly omitting. I love how vast this game is, and am eager to see what it becomes.

Thank you. I always remember to you and people in general that my real intentions were to make a 6 level game only, with fewer enemies (goombas, koopas, shyguys, boos, bobombs, bloopers). So any addition is really an unexpected task towards a more complete game. We hope we can keep the development.

Vice-a-Roni Wrote:Now, addressing the most recent issue, I see no reason to fight the introduction of said character, "Toadella". It would be nice to get some dialogue explaining her presence, but you can introduce a random face without deviating from the canon. Why anybody would feel the need to keep this 100% true to canon is beyond me; it's a sex-game about an E to E10 franchise. Of course you're taking liberties.

Yes I'm not fond of a 100% (101%?) Mario game, but A BIT (just a bit) of non Mario , provided it retains the magic (fairy/Peach alike/Mushroom Kingdom-like inhabitants), no problem.
Dialogue explaining her presence -> If we end up retaining her, Quiz will make an script/conception in that area. As I've said, its NICE to see her as an obscure character, like the past of Peach. Nobody will know the real truth. She can be even Toadette's mother.

Vice-a-Roni Wrote:If a new character is a huge issue, then the only other character I see as an option right now that *could* be true to canon is Pauline. That could be an interesting cameo or shout-out.

Pauline was the Mario's damsel. Peach 'stole' Pauline's fame. So I think its not a good idea. Daisy is interesting because they know each other and both are females. Actually good friends, those who invites each other for tea and talks/gossips about friends.

Vice-a-Roni Wrote:If this bath scene is such an issue, then my idea for the writing direction (as an objective fan of your games) would be to make the person bathing her a sort of a mentor figure. Peach is initially naive, but then becomes sexually experienced as the game goes on, right? So this character (Pauline/Toadella/etc.) would be a sort of guide for her

We alreay have Toadsworth with this role. Its interesting to have a male because, you know, more dirty lessons!

Bath scenes will be spread out, but not much. Actually we will be seeing more 'shower checkpoints', and some 'lake checkpoints' , like Krystal one (in the original Legend of Krystal game). so Peach can 'jump on it' and have a bath. For sure, people (and I!) prefer more scenes, because it gives more freedom for us to change scenes.

Vice-a-Roni Wrote:Anyway, I enjoy the game. I enthusiastically await each update, and the scenes really turn me on. But, I know you all have schedules to keep, and I'm happy to wait however long for each update. Keep up the good work, everybody. Your work continues to amaze me. But, remember to take care of yourselves too.

Thank you! As for about taking care, well, I really need some vacation (I haven't stopped since the beginning, april 2012, aside of a trip in june - 15 days) but I can still work for some days/weeks before taking a deeper rest (2 weeks to 1 month). I am a bit rigorous with myself and I see I am not as quick as before in regard to new features, maybe because I am still improving the code, to avoid bugs. Bugs are evil. They can take all your time and hinder your creativity.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 2.0.8 (jun 13/13)

Postby LuckyPig » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:47 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
LuckyPig Wrote:ok enough with the level designs, more, bad guys, sex scenes, costumes and characters please >:)

Its easy to say that, but harder to execute, because:

1=> We're 'normal beings', with families, jobs, tasks required outside (like paying for telephone, bank, pharmacies, showering the dog, giving escuses to our girlfriends), and common worries/stress. People are making animations with me right now (Blargh, Digfree, Gorepete and OwnerOfSuccuby), but they are human beings too. Some are into Colleges, another one in universities, another one playing XBOX and PS3 games (not me on that one!), so we need to wait.
2 => We work for free. We dont have end dates (with an angry boss on top of us). This absence is in fact good for the project because we talk with players directly, we can think better, and ideas flow better. But due to the item 1 above, we can't be only working on this game.
3 => Once with a free time, we start working in the game (from which is done actually EVERYDAY, most times at night), BUT:
- The game core IS code. Without a proper feature (with new code) with tons of tests, no scene will be bug free, and some can be annoying by the player, so we are using the most time for programming, sometimes altering complex algorihtms, but without visual perception (the player thinks the game wanst changed at all).
- Each sex scene requires planning, some sketches and good ideas (well I do have ideas but the team should discuss more), otherwise I can end up adding not so interesting scenes or scenes that are equal to other enemies (or even weird scenes, like Peach fucking a wiggler upside down in a strange way, after eating apples). Trust me, I'm capable of doing that without planning. ThatGuy45 created some nice sketches and I will be creating more Chomp and Shyguy scenes based on his when I have time.
- Priority IS level making because its the HARDEST task and I'm already used to it. If you're an engineer which can modify an entire city (and you're used to it), why retiring in exchange to create new road paths? We will end up with tons of paths and highways, but without new areas to go. And that engineer will lose his skills over time, making him unable to create more buildings and bridges. The only way for this to work is having more contributors, who can bug me all the time: 'Ivan, done, done, done, done!'. So Ivan will be 'implementing, implementing,implementing,implementing!'
- Also, Priority is Peach poses (pole dancing, running while embarassed), and Peach voice acting. Needless to say priority is also bug fixing.

So please be patient. The tendency is a faster code, a faster framework to make scenes, and a steadier game flow. I understand the anxiety and I would be like you if I were in your place. Sometimes I ask to myself: 'why not rushing to the scenes?', as I can think the game is from other developer and then simulate this. However, nothing is easy like we imagine (and worse if we're alone).


wow Ivan replied to my post...its like talking to walt disney almost, anyway I didnt need that awhole speech Ivan, I'm well aware the pressures of the internet animator, specially when working with other networkers, coders, and animators, I understand the real world catches up with you, and honestly the problems you listed above are some of the reasons most people just quit all together. I was just giving my opinion was all, I can wait for future updates and wot not...so take your time, do a good job and most of all haavvveee fun with it :)
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