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Re: Space Escape

Postby Mr.Nook » Mon May 06, 2013 1:19 am

urielmanx7 Wrote:
Pram Wrote:
urielmanx7 Wrote:Elaborate please, I don't hang around here too often so I'm kinda lost on what you meant.


Oh, he wants to make your character in a game called The Sims.

Dunno why he'd even bother asking, though.


Because...He's polite?

@Mr.Nook: Send me a private with the details so I can consider it.


Will do! When this dang site allows me to do that!
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Re: Space Escape

Postby MiscChaos » Mon May 06, 2013 2:08 am

@Mr. Nook: That'll be when you hit 10 posts. Prevents adbots from spamming members and all that good stuff
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Mr.Nook » Mon May 06, 2013 11:47 pm

Awesome thanks! So time for me to start placing my evaluations and such...
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Videl Lover » Tue May 07, 2013 6:23 am

So the other day I came across a possible leaked gallery mode for this game on a website other than the blog and this site. Course it could be fan made since this game has been out for a while. I can pm the link since I don't know if I can post links to other sites on here and if so I can edit this post and link it.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby fivesteaks » Wed May 08, 2013 5:38 am

Videl Lover Wrote:So the other day I came across a possible leaked gallery mode for this game on a website other than the blog and this site. Course it could be fan made since this game has been out for a while. I can pm the link since I don't know if I can post links to other sites on here and if so I can edit this post and link it.


If it's truly a fan work then I'd say post it, if it's a blatant ripoff of the author's work without any credit then best to leave it alone.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Videl Lover » Wed May 08, 2013 8:21 am

fivesteaks Wrote:If it's truly a fan work then I'd say post it, if it's a blatant ripoff of the author's work without any credit then best to leave it alone.


Quite honestly I'm not how I would tell if it's a fan's work or not. It doesn't give credit to UrielMan or anything like that nor does it claim to be the original author and its just a sort of gallery with all the sex scenes all lined up together and the option of clothes type(or lack their of) etc.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby starfox55 » Thu May 09, 2013 1:59 am

I saw that about a week ago. From what i've seen its on both clitgames (www.clitgames.com) and swfchan (swfchan.com)
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Mr.Nook » Mon May 13, 2013 9:52 pm

Wow! Just took a quick check on that and damn it's pretty pitiful.... To what they will do to add new content to their site. That and the whole thing just doesn't friggin fit! [-insert penis joke as you know you wanna do it-] But sites like that are usually notorious for pulling off stuff like that. But to be honest I really wouldn't known about this place if it wasn't for just browsing about one of those sites. It still doesn't make it right though.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby NoPenNameGirl » Tue May 14, 2013 10:54 pm

To clarify the things:

Well, don't worry everybody.

It's not a leaked game gallery. The one Uriel made is way better. This one is made by someone else without our consent. But I, personally, do not care about it. It's a inevitable, and this HAPPENS. There is nothing we can do about it.

And, seriously, I have this same problem with Project X sprites as well, because we find PX gifs in some places. I don't understand why people do it. We create a game to be played, the hentai content is just a extra factor, but is not the main motive for you to go see the game. We want people to PLAY our games as well fap with it.

If we just wanted to create sex scenes just for people to fap to it, we would'nt have bother to create a gameplay system, hunt for bugs and test out. Hell, we would be 100 times easier create a gallery than create a game.

I find those kind of stuff ofensive to the author effort in creating a game.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Madlyblue » Wed May 15, 2013 2:12 am

NoPenNameGirl Wrote:To clarify the things:

Well, don't worry everybody.

It's not a leaked game gallery. The one Uriel made is way better. This one is made by someone else without our consent. But I, personally, do not care about it. It's a inevitable, and this HAPPENS. There is nothing we can do about it.

And, seriously, I have this same problem with Project X sprites as well, because we find PX gifs in some places. I don't understand why people do it. We create a game to be played, the hentai content is just a extra factor, but is not the main motive for you to go see the game. We want people to PLAY our games as well fap with it.

If we just wanted to create sex scenes just for people to fap to it, we would'nt have bother to create a gameplay system, hunt for bugs and test out. Hell, we would be 100 times easier create a gallery than create a game.

I find those kind of stuff ofensive to the author effort in creating a game.

I agree
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Kuragari » Thu May 16, 2013 11:31 am

NoPenNameGirl Wrote:To clarify the things:

Well, don't worry everybody.

It's not a leaked game gallery. The one Uriel made is way better. This one is made by someone else without our consent. But I, personally, do not care about it. It's a inevitable, and this HAPPENS. There is nothing we can do about it.

And, seriously, I have this same problem with Project X sprites as well, because we find PX gifs in some places. I don't understand why people do it. We create a game to be played, the hentai content is just a extra factor, but is not the main motive for you to go see the game. We want people to PLAY our games as well fap with it.

If we just wanted to create sex scenes just for people to fap to it, we would'nt have bother to create a gameplay system, hunt for bugs and test out. Hell, we would be 100 times easier create a gallery than create a game.

I find those kind of stuff ofensive to the author effort in creating a game.


I'm noticing someone on the RE:Progeny blog who was basically complaining about the fact that you were (in a sense) discourage from screwing the Zombies and other monsters because even if you go all the way down the whore path, you'd still be able to be infected by the monsters. I pretty much told him that if the Sex was the only part he cared about, then he should avoid the game until it gets finished and do whatever little bit was required to get to the gallery.

What it boils down to is this: Some people don't give a damn about the game, because all they're after is the sex aspect. Its why simple flash games that involve a character being screwed (and that's it) seem to be rather popular. Its the whole instant gratification bit. They don't want to have to take ten-fifteen minutes or more playing a game when all they want to see is some fucking so they can fap to it. Its why on some of the places that have a relatively recent version of Shinboi Girl will also have the cheat codes hiding somewhere so you can type the cheat in and just go to the gallery.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby N_Yah » Thu May 16, 2013 2:02 pm

Kuragari Wrote:I'm noticing someone on the RE:Progeny blog who was basically complaining about the fact that you were (in a sense) discourage from screwing the Zombies and other monsters because even if you go all the way down the whore path, you'd still be able to be infected by the monsters. I pretty much told him that if the Sex was the only part he cared about, then he should avoid the game until it gets finished and do whatever little bit was required to get to the gallery.

What it boils down to is this: Some people don't give a damn about the game, because all they're after is the sex aspect. Its why simple flash games that involve a character being screwed (and that's it) seem to be rather popular. Its the whole instant gratification bit. They don't want to have to take ten-fifteen minutes or more playing a game when all they want to see is some fucking so they can fap to it. Its why on some of the places that have a relatively recent version of Shinboi Girl will also have the cheat codes hiding somewhere so you can type the cheat in and just go to the gallery.


That's part of it for sure, but ultimately it comes down to game mechanics vs reward mechanics. If you're playing a porn game, then ultimately at one level or another you're looking for sex, or porn or something along those lines.

It's one of the big problems the "Shinobi Girl" type games have, it incentivises failure. If the only sex scenes come when you mess up and you're there because you want the sex scenes, then the game is telling you to fail. You're actively punished for your success. If you beat a level perfectly you have close to full HP and armour and get zero sex scenes.

So then for people like me who want to enjoy the game as a game and also enjoy the sex scenes (the reason they're playing a sex game) you have to do stupid metagaming stuff like get balance how much you get raped with how much HP you'll need to finish the level. It's silly and it feels silly doing it, I'm actively aiming to fail because my failure is rewarded while my success is punished.

I have no interest in isntant gratification, I have no interest in instantly unlocking a gallery, I'm happy if after beating the game it does unlock a gallery of all the in game scenes I've probably missed because I was incentivised to miss them.

But ultimately it seems to me like a core design problem. If you're making a sex game, and sex is the reward people want to earn, why not incentivise them for the sex?
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Calpico » Thu May 16, 2013 10:35 pm

Kuragari Wrote:
NoPenNameGirl Wrote:To clarify the things:

Well, don't worry everybody.

It's not a leaked game gallery. The one Uriel made is way better. This one is made by someone else without our consent. But I, personally, do not care about it. It's a inevitable, and this HAPPENS. There is nothing we can do about it.

And, seriously, I have this same problem with Project X sprites as well, because we find PX gifs in some places. I don't understand why people do it. We create a game to be played, the hentai content is just a extra factor, but is not the main motive for you to go see the game. We want people to PLAY our games as well fap with it.

If we just wanted to create sex scenes just for people to fap to it, we would'nt have bother to create a gameplay system, hunt for bugs and test out. Hell, we would be 100 times easier create a gallery than create a game.

I find those kind of stuff ofensive to the author effort in creating a game.


I'm noticing someone on the RE:Progeny blog who was basically complaining about the fact that you were (in a sense) discourage from screwing the Zombies and other monsters because even if you go all the way down the whore path, you'd still be able to be infected by the monsters. I pretty much told him that if the Sex was the only part he cared about, then he should avoid the game until it gets finished and do whatever little bit was required to get to the gallery.

What it boils down to is this: Some people don't give a damn about the game, because all they're after is the sex aspect. Its why simple flash games that involve a character being screwed (and that's it) seem to be rather popular. Its the whole instant gratification bit. They don't want to have to take ten-fifteen minutes or more playing a game when all they want to see is some fucking so they can fap to it. Its why on some of the places that have a relatively recent version of Shinboi Girl will also have the cheat codes hiding somewhere so you can type the cheat in and just go to the gallery.


I think that it's more that you people either feel an obligation or, for some reason, find the gameplay of all these games enjoyable. the creator of a game won't feel instantly insulted that someone used a feature that they implemented into it for those-who-just-want-to-jerk-off's ease. of course, the sexual content is an "extra" in this case, but the unofficial gallery was likely made by people who wanted to see a gallery instead of having to travel through a huge level and do tons of things just to see a few scenes

most people go through a game at first because they don't realize they can just get cheat codes. the cheat codes are there for people who are returning to the game that have played it before that don't want to play it again because they don't feel an obligation or an urge to experience the gameplay of the games again and just get to the jerk-off material

ten or fifteen minutes is not enough time to play most games, and definantly not enough time to unlock very many scenes. along with that, people spend different lengths of time jerking off to it and may be jerking off to more than just it, so whatever time they spend playing the game is a waste.
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Kuragari » Fri May 17, 2013 1:35 am

N_Yah Wrote:
That's part of it for sure, but ultimately it comes down to game mechanics vs reward mechanics. If you're playing a porn game, then ultimately at one level or another you're looking for sex, or porn or something along those lines.

It's one of the big problems the "Shinobi Girl" type games have, it incentivises failure. If the only sex scenes come when you mess up and you're there because you want the sex scenes, then the game is telling you to fail. You're actively punished for your success. If you beat a level perfectly you have close to full HP and armour and get zero sex scenes.

So then for people like me who want to enjoy the game as a game and also enjoy the sex scenes (the reason they're playing a sex game) you have to do stupid metagaming stuff like get balance how much you get raped with how much HP you'll need to finish the level. It's silly and it feels silly doing it, I'm actively aiming to fail because my failure is rewarded while my success is punished.

I have no interest in isntant gratification, I have no interest in instantly unlocking a gallery, I'm happy if after beating the game it does unlock a gallery of all the in game scenes I've probably missed because I was incentivised to miss them.

But ultimately it seems to me like a core design problem. If you're making a sex game, and sex is the reward people want to earn, why not incentivise them for the sex?


Well, that's because the concept of the game is Run or Rape, and to be perfectly frank, I find some of my interest in the game stemming from the fact that you have to keep your character from getting raped. Plus, I'm playing a game, it shouldn't necessarily be easy to get to the sex scenes. If all your their for is the porn factor, there's plenty of easier places to get your fix, such as videos and pictures. If I'm going to play a sex game, I want to game itself to be fun just as much as the sex factor is. Bonus points if the game and the sex go hand in hand (such as Run or Rape games)

To be honest, I don't understand this idea of incentive to failure. I've never felt incentive to fail in the RoR games, I've always aimed to beat the game first and fap afterwards when I've got the gallery unlocked.

Besides, if the sex is the only thing your there for, then "failing" isn't really failing is it :roll:
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Calpico » Fri May 17, 2013 1:50 am

gonna address your post from specific quotes

Kuragari Wrote:Plus, I'm playing a game, it shouldn't necessarily be easy to get to the sex scenes. If all your their for is the porn factor, there's plenty of easier places to get your fix, such as videos and pictures.


but it's not just jerking off that people want to do, people want to jerk off to specific things

Kuragari Wrote:Besides, if the sex is the only thing your there for, then "failing" isn't really failing is it :roll:

Kuragari Wrote:Well, that's because the concept of the game is Run or Rape, and to be perfectly frank, I find some of my interest in the game stemming from the fact that you have to keep your character from getting raped.


it's a fetish
I won't give more of an explaination than that the second quote is what people enjoy, they like that the girl has difficulty getting away from whatever is raping her and some people also enjoy that you're controlling her will to be captured by the enemies
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Re: Space Escape

Postby urielmanx7 » Fri May 17, 2013 4:31 am

To me, RoR games are appealing because you have the choice to give in (corruption is one of my fetishes >.<). But you all make valid points, and believe me, I have thought of ways to do a game with sex on it without the sex being the "punishment" but there's really no way to it, at least not a new one, because it could be done like in sim games, where all the game is sex oriented, that after you do some things, you unlock a sex scene, but then the whole plot of the game will have to change, you can't do a game about a traveler that goes to caves/dungeons etc and that the reward is sex, it just doesn't make sense, it will, however if you were playing as the monster, or a succubus for that matter, like gorepete's game, but then again, I think the games with a female protagonist are more popular than male protagonists(at least in my case, though EroNight is hot as HELL), so, as I see it, a RoR have 2 ways to play it, the "horny" where you lose on purpose, and the "normal" when you play it like a game, because frankly, I don't think a perfect combination of sex and good gameplay can be achieved without the gameplay being based towards sex too, imagine a game with awesome gameplay as Dark Souls (yes, I'm STILL playing it, I think I've become addicted to die), now imagine they threw sex in there, like the octopus on Lost Izalith raped you instead of killing you, you'll really lose the pace of the game if every time you screw you got raped, so, basically, you either play for the sake of playing, or you play to watch the sex, again, that's why RoR games are almost the only kind of sex game I play, because I like the control you have over the rapes, it's like in a hentai you are watching, and maybe you liked it, but just some parts, but you can't do anything about it, because it's a hentai and the animation it's already done, but in a RoR you can choose what thing to rape the protagonist, how long, how much, anything, and I'm talking about the RoR's that have sex in-game, not the ones that are GoR those are lame...Anyway, I can't remember where I was going with all this, hope it makes sense to anyone :P

PS: If you want, I could make it so you can only get gallery chips for killing enemies, so that way, losing on purpose won't give you anything... :P
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Ikari N0 Tenshi » Fri May 17, 2013 5:17 am

urielmanx7 Wrote:imagine a game with awesome gameplay as Dark Souls (yes, I'm STILL playing it, I think I've become addicted to die), now imagine they threw sex in there, like the octopus on Lost Izalith raped you instead of killing you, you'll really lose the pace of the game if everytime you screw you got raped, so, basically, you either play for the sake of playing, or you play to watch the sex

PS: If you want, I could make it so you can only get gallery chips for killing enemies, so that way, losing on purpose won't give you anything... :P

that is an excellent point about Dark Souls/gameplay comparison, and i think that the gallery chip is an excellent idea for that :)
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Kuragari » Fri May 17, 2013 1:43 pm

The gallery chip idea is beyond excellent. It will actually *LE GASP* FORCE PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME!! *le faints*
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Re: Space Escape

Postby cookie jar » Sat May 18, 2013 12:50 am

I second the idea of gallery chips for defeating enemies. I hate to play bad on purpose. :?
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Re: Space Escape

Postby Calpico » Sat May 18, 2013 5:53 am

urielmanx7 Wrote:PS: If you want, I could make it so you can only get gallery chips for killing enemies, so that way, losing on purpose won't give you anything... :P


then wouldn't you just be rewarding the player either way they play?
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