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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Darthan » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:32 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait, so Phanto isn't going to fly after Peach as long as she is holding the key? Then stop once she drops it?

I really hope this is how it winds up working. I exploited the crap out of that when I played SMB2. Come to think of it, I need to actually try to beat that game. I only ever played it at a friends when I was a little kid so we never actually finished it cause we both sucked at it. :P

Thinking about it, wouldn't Croco make a good sneaky character? I can't really see him taking advantage of Peach, but he could steal her clothes or underwear, you did say you wanted to add underwear at some point, to sell for money.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:41 pm

Darthan Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait, so Phanto isn't going to fly after Peach as long as she is holding the key? Then stop once she drops it?

I really hope this is how it winds up working. I exploited the crap out of that when I played SMB2. Come to think of it, I need to actually try to beat that game. I only ever played it at a friends when I was a little kid so we never actually finished it cause we both sucked at it. :P

Thinking about it, wouldn't Croco make a good sneaky character? I can't really see him taking advantage of Peach, but he could steal her clothes or underwear, you did say you wanted to add underwear at some point, to sell for money.

Purple crocodile with a small tophat? Yes!
By the way Ivan, he looks like this:
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And here is the info page: http://www.mariowiki.com/Croco
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:59 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:There was never a straw block in Mario! You are probably thinking of the sandblocks in Super Mario Bros. 2 USA.

Yes, SMB2. When I said (since february 2012!) SMB1, SMB2 and SMB3, I was referring to SMB1, SMB2USA (Playshapes got inspiration for that too!) and SMB3. Otherwise, shyguys, panthos and other beings wouldn't be in this game. Well, anyway, its almost complete. I'm writing here while, in the background, Flash is compiling a new test version ;)

QuizmasterBos Wrote:He could take the ship from Rainbow Ride:
And here is the more detailed Super Smash Bros. Brawl version:
We could reform it into a flying cruise ship for the masses.

Hmmm more opinions needed.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:And don't even dare thinking about the blimp from TTYD.

No, I dont like the blimp (haaaa, now you are surprised!) :D

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait, so Phanto isn't going to fly after Peach as long as she is holding the key? Then stop once she drops it?

There are two options possible. That one you said, and the 'Pantho waiting at the door' idea. Of couse I prefer to retain the classic way. BTW, I may think about a way for her to 'drop' the key pressing run button once. And a way to use the same run button to 'GRAB' a key (instead of just passing through it).

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Purple crocodile with a small tophat? Yes! By the way Ivan, he looks like this:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....possible. Is he going to appear on world 5 (Delfino)?

But remember we have these ideas already:
1-(SNEAKER) - MIPS is a rabbit that appears in Mario 64. He's not much a thief but he can run! Mario needs to catch him to get a Power Star. He's found in the basement of Princess Peach's Castle
2-(SNEAKER) - Geno (made by Pure flesh). Will appear in World 4 (forest)
3-(SNEAKER) - Boos. Will appear in grey castles
4-(SNEAKER) - Piantissimo. Will appear in Delfino World
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Wait, so Phanto isn't going to fly after Peach as long as she is holding the key? Then stop once she drops it?

There are two options possible. That one you said, and the 'Pantho waiting at the door' idea. Of couse I prefer to retain the classic way. BTW, I may think about a way for her to 'drop' the key pressing run button once. And a way to use the same run button to 'GRAB' a key (instead of just passing through it).

Just make her pick it up instead of jamming it in her ass then. Though, an interesting scene idea would be seeing Phanto play with her ass using the key. ;)
But how could he grab it, he doesn't have hands? you might say. Well, he doesn't, but we can give him telekinesis powers.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Purple crocodile with a small tophat? Yes! By the way Ivan, he looks like this:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....possible. Is he going to appear on world 5 (Delfino)?

More like randomly. Delfino doesn't fit him. In SMRPG, he appears outside in a grassy field and a cave area. There might be one more, but I forgot that if that is the case.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:But remember we have these ideas already:
1-(SNEAKER) - MIPS is a rabbit that appears in Mario 64. He's not much a thief but he can run! Mario needs to catch him to get a Power Star. He's found in the basement of Princess Peach's Castle
2-(SNEAKER) - Geno (made by Pure flesh). Will appear in World 4 (forest)
3-(SNEAKER) - Boos. Will appear in grey castles
4-(SNEAKER) - Piantissimo. Will appear in Delfino World

You can, if you want, discard MIPS. Croco fits way better. I didn't even think of him. Thanks, Darthan!
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:35 pm

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Just make her pick it up instead of jamming it in her ass then. Though, an interesting scene idea would be seeing Phanto play with her ass using the key. ;)

Dont worry, I'll make the animation of her picking the key up THEN putting in her ass. Remember, that is the only way she could use her hands to everything else, letting her free to save her kingdom!

QuizmasterBos Wrote:But how could he grab it, he doesn't have hands? you might say. Well, he doesn't, but we can give him telekinesis powers.

Sure! He's a soul!

QuizmasterBos Wrote:More like randomly. Delfino doesn't fit him. In SMRPG, he appears outside in a grassy field and a cave area. There might be one more, but I forgot that if that is the case.

Then I may put him in some underground areas.


QuizmasterBos Wrote:You can, if you want, discard MIPS. Croco fits way better. I didn't even think of him. Thanks, Darthan!

Really? So would Croco be in Peach castle basement? Thats because I really want to create a sneaker 'friend' there, in order for the player to force Peach to get ashamed there.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:47 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Just make her pick it up instead of jamming it in her ass then. Though, an interesting scene idea would be seeing Phanto play with her ass using the key. ;)

Dont worry, I'll make the animation of her picking the key up THEN putting in her ass. Remember, that is the only way she could use her hands to everything else, letting her free to save her kingdom!

Actually in Super Mario World, Mario can shoot fireballs and hold an object at the same time. Why can't Peach do that. During scenes, she can just drop the key automatically, forcing a player to pick it up again, but hey! they ran into the enemy, so they cant' complain.

Phanto's keys are also huge, how can that disappear in that tight butt of Peach?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:You can, if you want, discard MIPS. Croco fits way better. I didn't even think of him. Thanks, Darthan!

Really? So would Croco be in Peach castle basement? Thats because I really want to create a sneaker 'friend' there, in order for the player to force Peach to get ashamed there.

Think of it this way: Croco, like every other thief, loves money. Gold, cash , other valuables. What better place to look is in a castle? Why the basement? Well, there is a good chance there might be a safe down there, holding riches. And who knows, maybe there might be ;)?
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Darthan » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:50 pm

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Really? So would Croco be in Peach castle basement? Thats because I really want to create a sneaker 'friend' there, in order for the player to force Peach to get ashamed there.

Croco is not a "friend" character he is a thief, literally, the first time you meet him he has stolen Mallow's frog coin and you have to get it back. I don't remember exactly what he steals the second time, but you still have to chase him down and get it back. Thus the, he could steal Peach's clothes or underwear to sell them.

I am not really sure that Geno would work as a sneaky character either since he is a member of your party and nothing about him ever indicated that he is sneaky, in fact he tends to run headfirst into things.

I remembered Croco because I started playing SMRPG again since we started talking about it.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:17 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Actually in Super Mario World, Mario can shoot fireballs and hold an object at the same time. Why can't Peach do that.

I think the current mechanics work well. Its better to limit her in some aspects (like running at full speed or climbing) while grabbing an item. The code is already optimized for that.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:During scenes, she can just drop the key automatically, forcing a player to pick it up again, but hey! they ran into the enemy, so they cant' complain.

That is already implemented ;) I only need to tell the game 'hey drop any key too, not only vegetables'.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Phanto's keys are also huge, how can that disappear in that tight butt of Peach?

I prefer a smaller key, like what we have right now. The key will NOT disappear in her tight butt. Part of the key is already outside her.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Think of it this way: Croco, like every other thief, loves money. Gold, cash , other valuables. What better place to look is in a castle? Why the basement? Well, there is a good chance there might be a safe down there, holding riches. And who knows, maybe there might be ;)?

So could Croco steal Peach clothes only?

Darthan Wrote:Croco is not a "friend" character he is a thief, literally, the first time you meet him he has stolen Mallow's frog coin and you have to get it back. I don't remember exactly what he steals the second time, but you still have to chase him down and get it back. Thus the, he could steal Peach's clothes or underwear to sell them.

It could be. But I would like a sneak character to do nasty things to her, like a surprise butt sex or 'grab her nipples quickly then run'.

Darthan Wrote:I am not really sure that Geno would work as a sneaky character either since he is a member of your party and nothing about him ever indicated that he is sneaky, in fact he tends to run headfirst into things.

We need to think about a way to make him interact with Peach in a way she becomes embarassed.

Oh! The end of year is near! Toads are already commemorating the holidays!

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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:28 am

Darthan Wrote:
Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Really? So would Croco be in Peach castle basement? Thats because I really want to create a sneaker 'friend' there, in order for the player to force Peach to get ashamed there.

Croco is not a "friend" character he is a thief, literally, the first time you meet him he has stolen Mallow's frog coin and you have to get it back. I don't remember exactly what he steals the second time, but you still have to chase him down and get it back. Thus the, he could steal Peach's clothes or underwear to sell them.

I am not really sure that Geno would work as a sneaky character either since he is a member of your party and nothing about him ever indicated that he is sneaky, in fact he tends to run headfirst into things.

I remembered Croco because I started playing SMRPG again since we started talking about it.

The second time he steals all your money.

Well, you are right about the not being a friend thing, but that is the problem. There aren't many friends in the Mario universe. They're either boring NPC's, or enemies, so Ivan, you have to settle for some sneaky enemies. MIPS isn't very friendly either, in fact, how and why did he get into the castle?

Geno is very reckless, yes, but you mustn't forget a few things.

First, Geno is incredibly mysterious, we barely know anything about him. Except that he has an unpronounceable name and that the seven stars need to be collected to repair the Star Road. That's it! This allows us to build up on this by adding a previously unseen dark side to Geno.

Second, Peach knows Geno, so she would let her guard down with him. Especially since she has already seen so many things that want to fuck her and then she finds Geno.

Third, remember the story? Kamek is using his magic to make all the inhabitants (or at least the males) super horny. Geno would be affected as well:

(Peach sees something.)
Peach: Ah!
(It's revealed to be Geno.)
Peach: Oh Geno, thank the stars (get it) it's just you. I was afraid to run into another one that wants to rape me.
Geno: Don't worry princess, you'll be fine here. Just stay as close as possible to me.
Peach: Alright!
(Peach walks closer.)
(Geno suddenly moves behind Peach) [he can, he has the highest speed after all]
Geno: Geno Flash!
(Geno flashes Peach and then grabs her arms.)
Peach: Aaaaah! Can't I trust anyone anymore?! (or something like that)
Geno: Now for some Geno Boost! (Dick appears from his crotch area and raises up. It hits Peach's butt)
Peach: Is that your... thing? I never knew you had that!
Geno: I came across it recently. Time to put it to use.
(Geno pushes it in her ass or pussy and starts pumping)
Geno: I better finish this quick and get back to Star Road.
(Geno moves faster)
Geno: Here it comes! Geno Blast!
(Geno cums... loads)
Peach: You're done already?
Geno: What can I say, I like to get things done. Got to go. Bye Peach!
(Geno runs off, leaving behind a confused Peach)

Sorry it it's a bit rapier (more rape-y?) than normal. That's Rance's influence. I also laid on the jokes real thick.
Funny, I started writing this as a small example, then a rough draft and now it's a full-on script. I hope you like it, there are some SMRPG references in there as well!

By the way Ivan, I wrote all this before you posted, but I think I answered everything important already. Just let me know if there is still something you want to know.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:43 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:So Ivan, you have to settle for some sneaky enemies. MIPS isn't very friendly either, in fact, how and why did he get into the castle?

As I've said in former posts, its already known that MIPS inhabits Peach's castle basement. Its because its a safe place. We will have a newer Peach castle soon, with a basement.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno is very reckless, yes, but you mustn't forget a few things. First, Geno is incredibly mysterious, we barely know anything about him. Except that he has an unpronounceable name and that the seven stars need to be collected to repair the Star Road. That's it! This allows us to build up on this by adding a previously unseen dark side to Geno.

That's it too. I WANT (I W-A-N-T) to improve/complete what's misterious or non-completed about character personalities. And lets not forget that ALL were made by developers/creators MINDs. I think we have minds too. We CAN modify A BIT or complete it, without changing key aspects that may corrupt the personality. E.g. For sure, I will never put the Rawk Hawk as a embarassed guy.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Second, Peach knows Geno, so she would let her guard down with him. Especially since she has already seen so many things that want to fuck her and then she finds Geno.

I still think we are losing our times discussing about 'Geno is this, Geno is that'. Lets just do it ;)

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Third, remember the story? Kamek is using his magic to make all the inhabitants (or at least the males) super horny. Geno would be affected as well

Well, in the current concept, Kamek curses the inhabitants of Peach Castle and nearby places. But we can assume Geno was near during the incantation.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Peach sees something.
Peach: Ah!
It's revealed to be Geno.
Peach: Oh Geno, thank the stars (get it) it's just you. I was afraid to run into another one that wants to rape me.
Geno: Don't worry princess, you'll be fine here. Just stay as close as possible to me.
Peach: Alright!
Peach walks closer
Geno suddenly moves behind Peach (he can, he has the highest speed after all)
Geno: Geno Flash!
Geno flashes Peach and then grabs her arms.
Peach: Aaaaah! Can't I trust anyone anymore?!
Geno: Now for some Geno Boost! (Dick appears from his crotch area and raises up. It hits Peach's butt)
Peach: Is that your... thing? I never knew you had that!
Geno: I came across it recently. Time to put it to use.
(Geno pushes it in her ass or pussy and starts pumping)
Geno: I better finish this quick and get back to Star Road.
(Geno moves faster)
Geno: Here it comes! Geno Blast!
(Geno cums... loads)
Peach: You're.... done?
Geno: What can I say, I like to get things done. Got to go. Bye Peach!
(Geno runs off, leaving behind a confused Peach)


I like it! As I've said, Quiz has the most ellaborate dialogues we need. We dont need more complex dialogues. This one is convincing ;)

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Sorry it it's a bit rapier (more rape-y?) than normal. That's Rance's influence. I also laid on the jokes real thick.

Some characters can be rougher than others.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:By the way Ivan, I wrote all this before you posted, but I think I answered everything important already. Just let me know if there is still something you want to know.

If I remember something I tell you, thanks ;) But I really want to use MIPS (remember every character will be done using vectors graphics! Quality!)
Oh a question! Does geno make any common 'cloud' or 'particle effect' to appear? Or can I create any graphics for his appearance?

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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Sojirou » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:31 am

I'm pretty sure I've seen this game get posted over at GamesofDesire.com, not sure if you had it posted there or not
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:51 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno is very reckless, yes, but you mustn't forget a few things. First, Geno is incredibly mysterious, we barely know anything about him. Except that he has an unpronounceable name and that the seven stars need to be collected to repair the Star Road. That's it! This allows us to build up on this by adding a previously unseen dark side to Geno.

That's it too. I WANT (I W-A-N-T) to improve/complete what's misterious or non-completed about character personalities. And lets not forget that ALL were made by developers/creators MINDs. I think we have minds too. We CAN modify A BIT or complete it, without changing key aspects that may corrupt the personality. E.g. For sure, I will never put the Rawk Hawk as a embarassed guy.

Perfect! That's exactly how I think about the matter. Building on a character's personality is find, as long as it doesn't conflict it.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Second, Peach knows Geno, so she would let her guard down with him. Especially since she has already seen so many things that want to fuck her and then she finds Geno.

I still think we are losing our times discussing about 'Geno is this, Geno is that'. Lets just do it ;)

Yes, lets! And discussion is necessary, Ivan. You of all people should know, what have we been doing the past few days.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Third, remember the story? Kamek is using his magic to make all the inhabitants (or at least the males) super horny. Geno would be affected as well

Well, in the current concept, Kamek curses the inhabitants of Peach Castle and nearby places. But we can assume Geno was near during the incantation.

You could always remake it so that Kamek spreads the curse as the game develops.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Peach sees something.
Peach: Ah!
It's revealed to be Geno.
Peach: Oh Geno, thank the stars (get it) it's just you. I was afraid to run into another one that wants to rape me.
Geno: Don't worry princess, you'll be fine here. Just stay as close as possible to me.
Peach: Alright!
Peach walks closer
Geno suddenly moves behind Peach (he can, he has the highest speed after all)
Geno: Geno Flash!
Geno flashes Peach and then grabs her arms.
Peach: Aaaaah! Can't I trust anyone anymore?!
Geno: Now for some Geno Boost! (Dick appears from his crotch area and raises up. It hits Peach's butt)
Peach: Is that your... thing? I never knew you had that!
Geno: I came across it recently. Time to put it to use.
(Geno pushes it in her ass or pussy and starts pumping)
Geno: I better finish this quick and get back to Star Road.
(Geno moves faster)
Geno: Here it comes! Geno Blast!
(Geno cums... loads)
Peach: You're.... done?
Geno: What can I say, I like to get things done. Got to go. Bye Peach!
(Geno runs off, leaving behind a confused Peach)


I like it! As I've said, Quiz has the most ellaborate dialogues we need. We dont need more complex dialogues. This one is convincing ;)

You can save it now if you want. I'm happy with it, for now at least.

And what do you mean about elaborate dialogs?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Sorry it it's a bit rapier (more rape-y?) than normal. That's Rance's influence. I also laid on the jokes real thick.

Some characters can be rougher than others.

True, but we have to maintain a certain style of writing. That's why I am the script-checker, remember?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:By the way Ivan, I wrote all this before you posted, but I think I answered everything important already. Just let me know if there is still something you want to know.

If I remember something I tell you, thanks ;) But I really want to use MIPS (remember every character will be done using vectors graphics! Quality!)
Oh a question! Does geno make any common 'cloud' or 'particle effect' to appear? Or can I create any graphics for his appearance?

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If you mean "appears into battle", or something like that, he never does. In SMRPG the characters are already on-screen when the enemies come in.
You have to be a bit more specific about your question, I'm afraid.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:11 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Perfect! That's exactly how I think about the matter. Building on a character's personality is find, as long as it doesn't conflict it.

So I'll be discussing even more about that, in newer characters and actions they would do, along with this development. Trust me, we may even fulfill a given personality even Nintendo itself may be envious of.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Yes, lets! And discussion is necessary, Ivan. You of all people should know, what have we been doing the past few days.

For sure!

QuizmasterBos Wrote:You could always remake it so that Kamek spreads the curse as the game develops.

No problem!

QuizmasterBos Wrote:You can save it now if you want. I'm happy with it, for now at least.

Saved an hour ago ;)

QuizmasterBos Wrote:And what do you mean about elaborate dialogs?

Dialogs that fit nicely in the ENF theme and other secondary themes of MIM PUT. And Rance helps in that area ;).

QuizmasterBos Wrote:True, but we have to maintain a certain style of writing. That's why I am the script-checker, remember?

Of course.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:If you mean "appears into battle", or something like that, he never does. In SMRPG the characters are already on-screen when the enemies come in. You have to be a bit more specific about your question, I'm afraid.

I'm trying to say HOW would Geno appear in a given level, when Peach is wandering in the level? Using a smoke like David Copperfield? Coming from the sky, using a Robbin Hood rope? Does he just 'walks' around?

Er...I think you didnt see that post above (regarding Croco stealing clothes only and other things):
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:43 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:And what do you mean about elaborate dialogs?

Dialogs that fit nicely in the ENF theme and other secondary themes of MIM PUT. And Rance helps in that area ;).

Rance definitely does. But elaborate means difficult, overly complicated. It's usually used to denote something in a negative way. Example: "What an elaborate way to get the key! Why couldn't they just let you walk straight there?"

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:If you mean "appears into battle", or something like that, he never does. In SMRPG the characters are already on-screen when the enemies come in. You have to be a bit more specific about your question, I'm afraid.

I'm trying to say HOW would Geno appear in a given level, when Peach is wandering in the level? Using a smoke like David Copperfield? Coming from the sky, using a Robbin Hood rope? That kind of things.

Well, as I said, he never appears after he inhabits the doll in SMRPG. Geno's real form is a star spirit.

Look at what I just found:
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Geno's real form is the star thing at the top of the page. He inhabits the doll you see next to it.
He descends from the sky when he inhabits the doll, so you could do that. But I prefer a shadowy figure, explaining Peach's surprise. Then Geno steps out of the shadows and reveals himself to Peach, in more ways than one ;)

The second row shows Geno nodding, this happens when you defeated all the enemies in a fight.
Then we can see Geno spinning around I think? He does that when you get a Star, if I'm not mistaken.

The third row has Geno walking in the first 3 frames, being transformed into a scarecrow in the fourth, looking around in the fifth, being surprised in the sixth, blocking in the seventh, using an item in the eighth (he grabs them from under his hat) and laughing in the last.

The fourth row shows Geno walking again in the first 3 frames, looking up in the fourth, I think he's looking towards the side in the fifth, he's sleeping in the sixth, kneeling in the next two and sleeping again in the last.

The frames after that show Geno doing his various attacks. The cannon is actually used for Geno Flash. You can see him doing a double hand-attack (one of his standard attacks) in the last frame of the fifth row.

We have more special moves and taking damage in the sixth row. The seventh row is more attacks, mostly normal ones.

Maybe you can use these for inspiration. Play the game first I say, to get a bit of an idea for how these things fit together. SMRPG is luckily for you not THAT long. So, you don't need to spend 40 hours playing it. You also get Geno fairly early.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:Er...I think you didnt see that post above (regarding Croco stealing clothes only and other things):
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2265&p=193909#p193897

I did, I forgot to respond to it. Well, Croco stealing clothes could happen, he doesn't appear when Peach is around, so we don't know how he reacts to girls. So, I'd say it could work!
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:49 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:But elaborate means difficult, overly complicated. It's usually used to denote something in a negative way. Example: "What an elaborate way to get the key! Why couldn't they just let you walk straight there?"

Sorry, its a false friend then... In french and other languages, 'elaborate' means 'descriptive', 'advanced'. You are making descriptive and well deep dialogues so far ;)

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Well, as I said, he never appears after he inhabits the doll in SMRPG. Geno's real form is a star spirit.

Then he will be, like I said, a fleshy guy. With this form, I will make him descend from the sky like a black shadow (a bit transparent), yelding some gradient effects.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno's real form is the star thing at the top of the page. He inhabits the doll you see next to it. The second row shows Geno nodding, this happens when you defeated all the enemies in a fight. Then we can see Geno spinning around I think? He does that when you get a Star, if I'm not mistaken.

Interesting! I dont want to make him spinning because....erh...this is a bit complex animation to do.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:The third row has Geno walking in the first 3 frames, being transformed into a scarecrow in the fourth, looking around in the fifth, being surprised in the sixth, blocking in the seventh, using an item in the eighth (he grabs them from under his hat) and laughing in the last. The fourth row shows Geno walking again in the first 3 frames, looking up in the fourth, I think he's looking towards the side in the fifth, he's sleeping in the sixth, kneeling in the next two and sleeping again in the last.

I can use the most important poses.
But...does he 'throw' his hand on some of those attacks?
And...does he sleep while stood up?

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Maybe you can use these for inspiration. Play the game first I say, to get a bit of an idea for how these things fit together.

I dont have time to play it yet. But making MIM PUT, I do. So its better to take the most important features of him. If I make any mistake, you (or someone that is online and knows the game) can guide me.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:I did, I forgot to respond to it. Well, Croco stealing clothes could happen, he doesn't appear when Peach is around, so we don't know how he reacts to girls. So, I'd say it could work!

Like we said before, let's 'give more personality' to him ;) But not now. I'm just taking notes for our sneaker friends and 'neutral' creatures.

A better quality of him (are those 'brown ribbons' his hair?):

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The Geno I want to get inspiration from:

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

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And a better quality sprites:

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And what is that? :shock:

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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:22 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:But elaborate means difficult, overly complicated. It's usually used to denote something in a negative way. Example: "What an elaborate way to get the key! Why couldn't they just let you walk straight there?"

Sorry, its a false friend then... In french and other languages, 'elaborate' means 'descriptive', 'advanced'. You are making descriptive and well deep dialogues so far ;)
Why, thank you!

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Well, as I said, he never appears after he inhabits the doll in SMRPG. Geno's real form is a star spirit.

Then he will be, like I said, a fleshy guy. With this form, I will make him descend from the sky like a black shadow (a bit transparent), yelding some gradient effects.
Sounds good enough.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno's real form is the star thing at the top of the page. He inhabits the doll you see next to it. The second row shows Geno nodding, this happens when you defeated all the enemies in a fight. Then we can see Geno spinning around I think? He does that when you get a Star, if I'm not mistaken.

Interesting! I dont want to make him spinning because....erh...this is a bit complex animation to do.

No problem, I wasn't expecting you to do it anyway.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:The third row has Geno walking in the first 3 frames, being transformed into a scarecrow in the fourth, looking around in the fifth, being surprised in the sixth, blocking in the seventh, using an item in the eighth (he grabs them from under his hat) and laughing in the last. The fourth row shows Geno walking again in the first 3 frames, looking up in the fourth, I think he's looking towards the side in the fifth, he's sleeping in the sixth, kneeling in the next two and sleeping again in the last.

I can use the most important poses.
But...does he 'throw' his hand on some of those attacks?
And...does he sleep while stood up?

Yes, he does. That's his thing. Geno can shoot bullets from his fingers and hands. He can also have a cannon in his elbow (fifth row, second sprite)
And yes, he sleeps while standing up. All the characters in SMRPG do that.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Maybe you can use these for inspiration. Play the game first I say, to get a bit of an idea for how these things fit together.

I dont have time to play it yet. But making MIM PUT, I do. So its better to take the most important features of him. If I make any mistake, you (or someone that is online and knows the game) can guide me.

Sure. I'll do it as best as I can. But you are completely clueless in this right now, so that makes it harder to explain to you.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:A better quality of him (are those 'brown ribbons' his hair?):

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

Image

I'm not sure either, but I think it is.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:The Geno I want to get inspiration from:

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

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No, just stay to the original. This one is too "Japanese pretty boy final fantasy character" to me.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And a better quality sprites:

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Ooh, those are awesome. They seem to have been made with the Mario model in mind. I especially love the cannon. Don't make that for the scene though, Flash is to be taken in a different context here ;)

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:And what is that? :shock:

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Geno gets all the girls. Because he is awesome. He seriously is everyone's favorite SMRPG character.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:35 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Yes, he does. That's his thing. Geno can shoot bullets from his fingers and hands. He can also have a cannon in his elbow (fifth row, second sprite)......Ooh, those are awesome. They seem to have been made with the Mario model in mind. I especially love the cannon. Don't make that for the scene though, Flash is to be taken in a different context here ;)

I may not do that because he will be a fleshy guy. He will have a fleshy dick too ;) Remember Peach is the main star of this game. But yes, I can do some interesting things with him in the far future, like creating his cannon, using those better sprites.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:And yes, he sleeps while standing up. All the characters in SMRPG do that.

This reminds me, I DO HAVE to make our Peach sleep if the player lets her standing up for too long.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:No, just stay to the original. This one is too "Japanese pretty boy final fantasy character" to me.

Hmm ok. So he will appear more like Osama. Be warned. But lemme at least make his hair like the 'japanese final fantasy's pretty guy'.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno gets all the girls. Because he is awesome. He seriously is everyone's favorite SMRPG character.

Oh I see! Then I can even make a scene where Peach runs to him and embraces him. He then pinches the lady's butt ;)
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:43 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Yes, he does. That's his thing. Geno can shoot bullets from his fingers and hands. He can also have a cannon in his elbow (fifth row, second sprite)......Ooh, those are awesome. They seem to have been made with the Mario model in mind. I especially love the cannon. Don't make that for the scene though, Flash is to be taken in a different context here ;)

I may not do that because he will be a fleshy guy. He will have a fleshy dick too ;) Remember Peach is the main star of this game. But yes, I can do some interesting things with him in the far future, like creating his cannon, using those better sprites.

No need to. You just need to create the basic sprites, or better, create models that fit what you'll need in the game.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:No, just stay to the original. This one is too "Japanese pretty boy final fantasy character" to me.

Hmm ok. So he will appear more like Osama. Be warned. But lemme at least make his hair like the 'japanese final fantasy's pretty guy'.

Heck no you won't! That's the worst part about it. Just make the wood shavings from the original and transform them into real hair. Use that fake Brawl picture you posted before as reference.

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Geno gets all the girls. Because he is awesome. He seriously is everyone's favorite SMRPG character.

Oh I see! Then I can even make a scene where Peach runs to him and embraces him. He then pinches the lady's butt ;)

Um, okay?!
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby Ivan-Aedler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:52 am

QuizmasterBos Wrote:No need to. You just need to create the basic sprites, or better, create models that fit what you'll need in the game.

Richtig! I will finish making Rawk Hawk (what? Yes, I'm finishing him ;) ) Then I'll start making Geno right away. We will see if a given version is good enough or not, then I will improve them.

QuizmasterBos Wrote:Heck no you won't! That's the worst part about it. Just make the wood shavings from the original and transform them into real hair. Use that fake Brawl picture you posted before as reference.

Worst part = trying to get Osama as a base? Ok I wont. But I will make his hair more real, for sure.
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Re: MiM: Peach's Untold Tale 1.8.8 (dec 24/12)

Postby QuizmasterBos » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:10 am

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:No need to. You just need to create the basic sprites, or better, create models that fit what you'll need in the game.

Richtig! I will finish making Rawk Hawk (what? Yes, I'm finishing him ;) ) Then I'll start making Geno right away. We will see if a given version is good enough or not, then I will improve them.

Random German, Ivan?

Maybe it's a better idea to focus on making other characters first? Isn't it hard to make a character you know nothing about?

Ivan-Aedler Wrote:
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Heck no you won't! That's the worst part about it. Just make the wood shavings from the original and transform them into real hair. Use that fake Brawl picture you posted before as reference.

Worst part = trying to get Osama as a base? Ok I wont. But I will make his hair more real, for sure.

Osama and Geno have completely different body structures. Can't you use something else as a base? And otherwise, you'll have to create a new one again.

You know what I said, don't go for the "Japanese Pretty Boy Final Fantasy" style haircut. It doesn't fit him. (Even though both games were made by Squaresoft)
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