Need Help for Titfight Sim [ANIMATED Interactive Sample]

[thecatzman]

I am just an animator, I create animation in 3ds max, poser pro 2012 ect...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrbghu ... in26s_sexy

But I am not sure you can create such a realistic titfigth animation in flash using different body part ect...

[SteelSaurus]

To Katsu:
From most important to least;
1st; Tit Slam/Breast Press/Nipple Joust - Similar things at different speeds. (Breast to Breast)
2nd; Breast Slam/Breast Smother - Again, similar things but at different speeds (Breast to Face)
3rd; Breast Boxing - Sort of one of a kind, swinging breasts from side to side into one another
4th; Tit Squeeze/Breast Groping/Nipple Pinch/Tit Slap - All similar movement, just swapping out the hands
5th; Breast Smack - Similar to Breast Boxing, but swinging into the face rather than the breasts
6th; Nipple Licking - Not that important on the list

If I had to choose a single three... Tit Slam, Breast Smother, and Breast Boxing.

I'm planning to get Adobe for Christmas (if no-one gets it for me I shall be treating myself). But really, OwnerofSuccuby has been doing the most of the work, (and he has CS5.5) I just provided a concept, which was even really mine in the first place, it came from thecatzman. All I am is the shady middleman looking for a bit of backing on this great new project I 'found', and know enough about Flash to keep my hand in things,
I do admire your signature though. If I ever try to write something on the smutty side, I end up with half a page of plot before realizing that somewhere in there was supposed to be porn. I read hentai more for the ludicrous stories and scenarios and how they work a sex scene in rather than looking at the pictures. If I ever find a 'simple' flash game that has two seconds of intro, three seconds of game, and five minutes of sex, I think to myself, 'now how can this be improved?' rather than enjoying the free (although cheaply made) sex scenes. I get frustrated with Japanese games that are simple enough to play, but the story-line is unintelligible, and I can't make it up myself.

To The Catzman
I do not pretend to know how easy or difficult 3D animation is to 2D, and I figured I just assumed it would be similar in that once you have the model, you can make it move however you want, and can drag and drop them in place of one another similar to Flash. I still would like to see what you had in mind. Though, if I'm understanding what you mean by 'Street Fighter Style', I'm not sure how you mean to make the 3D version simpler...?

[thecatzman]

To The Catzman
I do not pretend to know how easy or difficult 3D animation is to 2D, and I figured I just assumed it would be similar in that once you have the model, you can make it move however you want, and can drag and drop them in place of one another similar to Flash. I still would like to see what you had in mind. Though, if I'm understanding what you mean by 'Street Fighter Style', I'm not sure how you mean to make the 3D version simpler...?

In a 2d fightting game (with sprites), in a "body to body" (for example a wrestling move), the sprite of the fighter who do the attack will be show in front of the sprite of the other fighter (or inversed).
For example:
http://clgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... erII07.jpg
As you can see, the sprite of guile is in front of zangief. Because it is in 2d, it is not a 3d engine. But the move is very quick in a 2d fighting game, so you don't see it.
Now imagine a titfight game, the sprite of a fighter will be in front of the sprite of the other fighter. So there will have a lot of problem. so You have to split the character in a lot of parts (hand, tits, nipples, head ect... ect...), and finally, I am not sure it will looks realistic (but May be I am wrong).

[KaTsuO_O]

The tit slap... Slam animation is half done, I just need to move them closer together and animate the impact. If someone want to add more customization, go ahead.

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[thecatzman]

Looks great !
But I would like to see how you will make the "breast to breast" (the more important part IMHO )

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

Very good work and very good animation.

But blinking can make this girl look even mor realistic

I look fla - compomnents are named - animation is very good.

[QuizmasterBos]

The tit slap animation is half done, I just need to move them closer together and animate the impact. If someone want to add more customization, go ahead.

I think you meant Tit slam animation.

It's looking good, you guys. I'm pretty interested.

[thecatzman]

I still would like to see what you had in mind.

I created two animated gifs

The first one is the animation of the fighter 1, and the second one the animation of the fighter 2. When the simulator run the two animation, it will looks like there is only one animation. So I could change the tone of the fighter, without create every movie for every possible combination of tone (white vs black, black vs taned, taned vs white ect....).
But this is not the way you will make the animations for the simulator.
As I said, I am waiting to see a "breast to breast" animation . May be it will looks as cool as one of my animation.

[SteelSaurus]

Whatever has been done, my attempts to improve would only detract. I also like how you smoothed out the crowds actions, though I noticed the Cheering/Booing ones are gone. Did I forget to add them before I updated the file, or do you have a better idea in working with them?

[thecatzman]

Is it possible to have the crowds on the background and not infront ? Because the crowds looks like hobbits in front two godzillas (but if the crowds are on the background, It will looks like they are a little further, and the fighter infront of them) and it hide some interesting part of the figthers

[KaTsuO_O]

Now there's an impact animation as well. I'm going to change it slightly for the other attacks if necessary. The perspective is kind of a problem, but I guess it works good enough. With some slapping sound, attack sound and moans, this could be pretty satisfying.

I could do breasts to breasts by "zooming in". It could be different from a normal attack, you have to rapidly click as fast as you can. If you win then you deal 10 damage but if you lose you take either 5 or 10 damage, depending on what's most balanced. Just to mix things up a bit, make it a bit more interesting.

SteelSaurus the crowd animations was actually missing in the original file, so you probably forgot to add them.

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[thecatzman]

The gif doesn't work on the forum.So I uploaded the animated gif
player 1
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=3026328301.gif
player 2
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=2918158002.gif

[thecatzman]

Now if I merge the two animated gif :
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?i ... tfinal.gif

If I want to create another fighter, I just have to change the tone of the skin of the model on 3ds max, and render the animation, and it will fit perfectly with every fighter.
But with this tips, I can not change the size of the breasts, because it will change the collision and there will be some glitch. But the animations are much more realistic, because it is made in 3ds max with real soft body effects.

But it is a totally different way than the one you choose. It is a "street fighter" way (using sprites).

[thecatzman]

Now there's an impact animation as well. I'm going to change it slightly for the other attacks if necessary. The perspective is kind of a problem, but I guess it works good enough. With some slapping sound, attack sound and moans, this could be pretty satisfying.

I could do breasts to breasts by "zooming in". It could be different from a normal attack, you have to rapidly click as fast as you can. If you win then you deal 10 damage but if you lose you take either 5 or 10 damage, depending on what's most balanced. Just to mix things up a bit, make it a bit more interesting.

SteelSaurus the crowd animations was actually missing in the original file, so you probably forgot to add them.

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It looks very good.
I have just two suggestions:
-Is it possible to change the facial expression of the character to something more "agressive", even in the standing position ?
-Is it possible to change the position of the left arm (for the character on the left, and right arm for the character on the right) to something like the other arm ?

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

Katsu - I like how it is done - very good work.
thecatzman - 3d animation in gif have size = 5mb.

For example we have 2 body color 3 hair color and we will ned 6*6 animation for it / and for example 5 different attacks =36*5= round it = 200 animations.
200*5=1000 mb size. Evn if we optimize size and etc - it will not be smaller then 100-200 mb if we will do it in this way.

May be it is better to make it like inro movie or may be even make 2 version of the game like 2d and 3d if you want. But size of 100-200 or more MB for flash game i think is not a good solution. But we can always think about it - from my side the code is the same for both - so it is always possible to try

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

By the way - look what cool girl i found in the internet

Is it possible to make the same model in flash ?

I understand that it is a little offtopic ... but i like her - and think is it possible to port her and may be some how use in other projects
But i can not import it in to flash it is protected and open with out animation

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[Mr D]

Is it possible to make the same model in flash ?

Depends on what do you mean by "make the same models in flash". If you mean redraw the model in 2D so that it looks as close as possible (but still 2D) in flash, than yes.It is possible (not that hard really). If you mean "remake the actual 3D model " than no that is not possible "in flash". That would require a different 3D program make animations in that 3d program and than import it as a movie into the flash. That makes me wonder in what program was this made in because it does not look like any 3D program that I know .

[thecatzman]

That makes me wonder in what program was this made in because it does not look like any 3D program that I know .

3ds max or maya, maybe cinema4d or something like that. But I guess is maya or 3ds max

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

I am not the fun of 3d All good games were in 2d =))) In 3d it is always more running and less fighting
Exept for some games like Quake and etc

But for this game it is possible make 2d and 3d versions if you want - from my side code is the same so it is no problems

Or if it is possible to use 2d and 3d we can always try.

[SteelSaurus]

I have some more faces, hands, and hairstyles from Shinobi Girl, as well as the updated file with the proper Crowds. If we're set for the required body parts, I'll be making a start on the alternate bust sizes and body types;

Body Types
Slim (10%), Average (100%), Athletic (10%), Built, Chubby

Bust Sizes
Average, Large (100%), Big, Huge, Gigantic

Internet is horribly slow, I'll try post the file tomorrow.