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I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:38 pm

Hi, so i'm blue light, and i pretend i can program in java here at the forums. I've got some prototypes on the forums for some different pieces of software.

Anyways i'm in a really strange mood today and would like to make a game with about 3 or 4 people. I don't know why, and this just hit me a few minutes ago.

I'm thinking of a suduku game where you basically beat it to see a hentai picture at the end of it along with a silly story (Why not?) . I have a tic tak toe game which i can butcher and prototype into a Suduku game.


I know, this sounds like a stupid idea but it's what i want to do.
I'm more than willing to be writing & programmer and could if needed to do the art... in flash.... it will be horrible.
Think of this less as a great work of LOK and just something silly to go wild with.
Anyone at least willing to try what ever i make and give feedback?
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:22 pm

Unfortunatly i am not java programmer, but i think it is interesting idea to make some thing like this. By the way if i am not wrong java works on some mobile devices.

It is very good that people make new games and make a small groups. If there will be more team work i think it will be more progress ;)

And may be one day that teams make some thing very big and good together :mrgreen:

And then we all will play it ;) :mrgreen:
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:09 am

I'm shocked anyone replied.
I guess i have to make a prototype this weekend.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby maximilianos » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:04 am

i might make you some really crappy ''art'' help, just to show you how bad I am xD
I often find myself thinking that most people are utter shite. I try to be positive and prove myself wrong. So far I've yet to succeed in doing so.
On the otherhand: I know a few of the actually great people out there and that makes me happy enough.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby FMPraxis » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:18 am

Depending on what quality and type of art you need, I *might* be able to help. I'm not very good with vectors so if i make anything it will be a bitmap and i will make it with GIMP. That's about all I can do.... i gave up on learning java after i couldn't figure out their versioning :?

I guess if you need someone to go "borrow" art from some websites around the internet i could do that. I seem to do pretty well at ripping elements out of web pages.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:39 pm

FMPraxis Wrote:Depending on what quality and type of art you need, I *might* be able to help. I'm not very good with vectors so if i make anything it will be a bitmap and i will make it with GIMP. That's about all I can do.... i gave up on learning java after i couldn't figure out their versioning :?

I guess if you need someone to go "borrow" art from some websites around the internet i could do that. I seem to do pretty well at ripping elements out of web pages.


I was going to have gifs with a white background and zelda trying to give a hand job to what looks like the middle finger... I don't think you could do much worse than that.
Again i said this before that i was a silly idea so i'm not really complaining about any support at this time.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby trunks2585 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:08 am

Not so much volunteering to help, but just a suggestion. Instead of Suduku, would you consider making the game Picross instead? I suggest this for two reasons.

one. Picross is (in my experience) easier to pic up and learn to play.

Two, you'd be revealing the image bit by bit as you play the game, instead of getting the immediate payoff. It'd be like putting together a puzzle. A very dirty puzzle.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:17 am

trunks2585 Wrote:Not so much volunteering to help, but just a suggestion. Instead of Suduku, would you consider making the game Picross instead? I suggest this for two reasons.

one. Picross is (in my experience) easier to pic up and learn to play.

Two, you'd be revealing the image bit by bit as you play the game, instead of getting the immediate payoff. It'd be like putting together a puzzle. A very dirty puzzle.


I was expecting a harsher post from you. Hell, i'd most likely be harsh to some one posting a wild idea like this. That being said i am willing to do everything .

I had a idea running though my head of having a different game per level to switch it up a bit. I have never hear of Picross but maybe i've seen it a bit
One of the reason why i'm going for Suduku is because, some one kinda asked me to show them the code if i ever make it.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:30 am

I made a Sudoku game! Just wanted to see how difficult it was to create. Turned out to be pretty easy, as I assumed, but tedious... At least the way I was doing it.

I tried to make so that it checks each box, horizontal and vertical line if it adds up to 45, but text boxes and values is not friends. So I just went with:

if (a1 + a2 + a3 + a4 + a5 + a6 + a7 + a8 + a9 == "? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?" && ...

Then for the Filled boxes:

a1 = ?;
a3 = ?;

Which I then just colored black and made them in to dynamic text boxes.

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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:49 pm

KaTsuO_O Wrote:I made a Sudoku game! Just wanted to see how difficult it was to create. Turned out to be pretty easy, as I assumed, but tedious... At least the way I was doing it.

I tried to make so that it checks each box, horizontal and vertical line if it adds up to 45, but text boxes and values is not friends. So I just went with:

if (a1 + a2 + a3 + a4 + a5 + a6 + a7 + a8 + a9 == "? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?" && ...

Then for the Filled boxes:

a1 = ?;
a3 = ?;

Which I then just colored black and made them in to dynamic text boxes.

Sudoku.swf

You need a formula to check Vertically, horizontally, and within the 9 boxes.
What you should doing is for loops.
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private void runCheck(){
int[] xArray = new int[9];
   for(int yAxis =0; yAxis <this.sudokuTable.length; yAxis = yAxis +1){
      for(int xAxis =0; xAxis <this.sudokuTable[yAxis].length; xAxis = xAxis +1){
         if(xArray[this.sudokuTable[yAxis][xAxis]] == null){xArray[this.sudokuTable[yAxis][xAxis]];}
         else {wanningToPlayer(BADMOVE);}
         }
      }
   }

I'd program it better but that's basically what you would do for a check

Arrays and for loops are your friends.what would really be interesting is doing a 3 dimensional one. I'm assuming we would have to have one premade and then we just cut part out of it.

It seems a bit more editing is required for the Yaxis
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:25 pm

Also 9+9+9+9+4+1+1+1+2 = 45. So just adding numbers will not working.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby FMPraxis » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:16 am

So wouldn't you need to compare against an array that contains the numbers 1-9 to make sure all the numbers are present exactly once in each column, row, and section? in AS3, i would probably just subclass TextField and add properties to tell me where it is on the board, stuff them all in an Object or Array, and run a for loop to check all the groups. Knowing me, i'd probably include a switch statement in it if i could find a way.

Also, this is a bit off topic, but why did you opt for var=var+1 instead of var++? does java use less memory or something doing that? or did you learn a different language before java that didn't have ++ ?
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:24 pm

what my code (one third of a check that assumes you have code some where elses) does is create array and then starts going line by line and adding the values. If it tries to add a value to a spot that already has a number, it throws a error in the players face (<- the assumed code)
Now i just realized my code has a error with the arrays but this is basically how it works with the array.

Code: Select All Code
[null][null][null][null][null][null][null][null][null]
now my program scans the board and see 2 followed by 4 followed by 3.
[null][2][null][null][null][null][null][null][null]
[null][2][null][4][null][null][null][null][null]
[null][2][3][4][null][null][null][null][null]

now if i find another 2 it throws a error because the program checks if the values are null or not.


However my quick little program doesn't taken in to account that arrays first value are 0. I just need to add a value of - 1
If i was to reuse that code i would likely deal with most of this logic in a method.

Going on to the var++; it's a short cut that i personally think can lead to more mistakes and even if you know what it means can be confusing.
If i say x = x + 1 i always know and a simple glance that x is going to be higher by one number. If i can't make that deduction then either i'm adding more than 2 values; using a different variable which makes "var++" useless anyways; or wouldn't likely understand var++ at the time either.

Also, it's a hack/shortcut which i was told never to use till you understand the language. I understand java quite well but it just seems like a stupid this to do.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:26 pm

If you need check is not some value enters more then once why not make a massive and push / pop values that are already in it ? And check is the value in massive ?
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:42 pm

So i'm not sure what you're asking.
So how i'd program it, we'd have some arrays and it would scan each line of the board by adding the values to the correct element in the array. If the element already has a value in it, then it throws a error for the player.

I did just realized that i'm going to be dealing with null values alot so i'm likely going to need a try/catch statement.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:13 am

I do not know how it is in Java but in flash it is possible not to allow to enter any other values in text field then 1-9 for example in proporties of it.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby FMPraxis » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:29 am

You were told exactly the opposite of what I was told about ++. I don't really care I wanted to make sure there wasn't some secret technical reason you were doing it like memory leaks or something. As for the rest of it... I didn't even volunteer to help with programming and you didn't ask for help so I'll go ahead and commence stfu on programming...

What are your rules on art or do you have any?
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:08 am

I'm waiting for after finals to start work on this.

Art i would like to keep under 1000x1000 and i was going to have horrible quality anyways so no quality check on my part
Just don't do fetish people my dislike. Futa is one.
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby BlueLight » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:30 pm

Well I've been force to wait for 3 extra hour than normal for a math review before the final
I was able to get the base engine done about 15% to 25%. It's not working as a game but once I add a simple guy, I should be able to test if it will work when using pet programmed commands for finishing a puzzle. I have a request, can some one make a program that starts with a finished puzzle and deconstruct it?

EDIT
Source code is also required. Thank you for who ever makes it. I don't care what language so long as I can use it in my thing with a few edits
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Re: I'm in a odd mood. Who wants to start a project?

Postby FMPraxis » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:13 am

Alright, looks like I've got somethings to do over the weekend. Also, I want to make sure that it's absolutely clear to everyone that I am not trying to claim exclusivity on the art for this project, so if you were saying to yourself "Darn! I wanted to make the art for this, too bad that guy got to it before me!" please go ahead and make that art- I won't be all hurt or angry or anything if you make a bunch of super beautiful art that makes it look like I couldn't draw a straight line to save my life, or even if we're about at the same level. The way I see it, it's just less stress for me.

BlueLight Wrote:I have a request, can some one make a program that starts with a finished puzzle and deconstruct it?


Could you, perhaps, give us some idea of exactly how deconstructed you want it? I mean, it could be broken down into rows, columns, sectors, bytecode, just to list a few. Are you wanting it to reverse-solve it so you start with a finished puzzle and then remove most of the numbers and then you have something to check against to make sure that it's solved correctly?
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