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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:06 pm

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Good 3d model of Kry - may be it will help some how ... .

And may be some body know how to decompile it on frames :?: :mrgreen: I do not but she is so cute in the beggining Image
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:13 pm

Do you want it longer?

Just tell or wright how you would like the eye to be colored.

@Bussa yes please i would like some help.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:25 pm

301th post!

You wont see me doing updates during the night anymore only on the weekends, school startes tomorrow.

Now got the skirt done.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:33 pm

Kry becomes better and better :mrgreen:
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:47 pm

OwnerOfSuccuby@ thanx, I Agree.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:30 pm

I just had to change how the ears looked, i think this looks and fits a lot better.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby trunks2585 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:52 pm

I'll let ebonizza be the judge on the muzzle, as for the eye, color it like you did before, use the same iris you had going on, it'll be the same eye but with the new eyelid shape. Also I'd make the top of the eye thicker, to indicate eyelashes, not too much just make to top thicker than the bottom.

The ears i'm not sure on, I kinda liked the more simple ones from before, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:18 pm

I would also like to see what Ebonizza think about the ears so that i know if im going to make them more like the old ones or if im going to keep them like they is.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby Bussa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:34 pm

So don't get mad or anything but I fiddled with her muzzle and I'll just let you be the judge of what I came up with. Personally I think it makes her look older and she has a chin now too, idk it's your decision though so it's up to you if you wanna use it.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:45 pm

Im not mad, you got a other style than me so it isnt that weird that did change what you changed.

I am looking at it and im not going to change it that much but im going to change something.

I would also like to see what trunks and Ebonizza think.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby Bussa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:47 pm

Okey doke :D
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby trunks2585 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:48 pm

i'll take katsu's over the edit, no offense but that's pretty bad. we're working on pulling up a decent image to show how to make the muzzle look better
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:14 pm

If this isnt enought then i think i need to change something with the head because it looks weird if i make it longer or thiner.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby trunks2585 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:21 pm

the upper part of her muzzle/jaw is still too thick compaired to the bottom, i think that's part of what's throwing it off. so yeah the bottom half of the head you should just redo to get the muzzle thinner without having to stretch it too far out from the head. if you can shave just a bit off that top half of her muzzle so it's not so thick, i think it'll be ok.

Edit: btw, the angle you have the lips at in relation to one another, is perfect, keep that in mind when you redo the jaw.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby Oriandu » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:23 pm

The problem with the muzzle is that the muzzle of a fox isn't rounded, it's straighter and thinner. Wherein lies the problem, as the rest of the face looks fantastic, but if you change the muzzle you'll have to redo the entire face.

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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby Mr D » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:41 pm

Oriandu Wrote:The problem with the muzzle is that the muzzle of a fox isn't rounded, it's straighter and thinner. Wherein lies the problem, as the rest of the face looks fantastic, but if you change the muzzle you'll have to redo the entire face.


I dont really think that KaTsu is trying to make it look more realistic . Becouse if he did, the model would look more like how it looks in Legun of Murrstal. (or do you?)
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby trunks2585 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:17 pm

I don't think the whole face needs to be redone, i've done a test and was able to make something decent just by erasing and redrawing the bottom and part of the top jaw, however the blue fur that comes off her cheeks will need to be raised up as well.

I did discover trying to extend the muzzle out any further threw the look off and i just couldn't stand it, the muzzle needed to be thinned, not extended anymore. I have no idea what ebonizza thinks of this mod but here's what i came up with, it may be crap for all i know but i think it's ok aside from being sloppy.
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Edit: the bottom jaw is still a little short in comparison to the top.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby KaTsuO_O » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:46 pm

That one made me think how i could get it a bit longer.
I think this looks good enough and i dont want the jaw to get all the way to the start of the muzzle, i want it a bit back because it looks better in my opinion so i hope you agree.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby Wessex » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:07 pm

If you ask me its perfect. I never was fan of the very long muzzle. No matter how the real one looks.
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Re: KaTsuO_O's Krystal model

Postby trunks2585 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:35 pm

Well I'm happy with it (in part because i made the initial mods to it). even if it's not perfect i think it's close enough. Anything by this point I think will fall on people's personal preferences for krystal art.

Edit: just in case you wanna rework it any more, here'a scrapped work from the developers. this was a combination of kal's work with playshapes editing parts of it, the muzzle here is pretty good as well.
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personally, i wouldn't touch anything anymore unless a lot of people complain about it or enough people make points about how it could be further improved.
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