The Sim Project

[Thaedael]

I need to apologize to you good sir, I have misread your post. I guess I have been too high-strung. It blows my mind that he is also asking for other artists, but for as long as I known Kitty-KatO_O he likes to get directions from other ideas. He tends to suffer from artists blocks and really thrives on helping others and those that give him ideas. It's what makes him awesome. Problem is I planned to help him with a game but as described before, I am dead so I can't help him. =/ Though I know you are a decent writer, so maybe toss something his way XD? Just be warned though, he has a bit of A.D.D. as he likes to switch from project to project.

[Biles]

Oh I see, so you're going for a 1st person view. You know, the project you're aiming for kinda reminds me of the High Tail High hentai games I once played.

[trunks2585]

I'm afraid i'm burnt out with projects, I got enough going on with my own stuff now. Even though I'd love to see a dating sim game made, I just don't have it in me to help. Besides he seems to have already found help with the dialog choices part of his request.

[Red.Sheer]

Your idea sounds interesting Since you put not all efforts into the plain sex, I look forward to well written dialogue and a overall nice gaming experience. Do you plan on including player races beyond cat/dog/horse/lizard?

[hubn99]

I need someone who can draw anthro characters. All I'm asking for is the line art, I'll do the colors (and shading) so that there is less work for the person but what's most important is that the person need to draw it in Adobe Flash.

I need someone who can draw front view of the characters with different expressions, Pov sex scenes (point of view, from the main characters eyes view), other sex scenes and "in the background" (a character standing against a wall, sitting, etc). For the Pov sex scenes I need the torso of the main character, genitals, legs and arms.

[KaTsuO_O]

@Thaedael That's right. I don't feel like just making loops, I already know how to do it in different ways. There is really talented people that still only do loops and that is something I don't get. If you got the talent, why don't try something that other people can't do. They also got resources, people that would be happy to help them and even voice actors that would love to give voice to their project. It is just a waste of potential I feel.


@Lex_Liven I'm sorry that you don't like it. I don't want to completely take it away but I can speed it up a bit.


@trunks2585 I must thank you for all the support, especially way back when I created that Krystal model. I really enjoyed it so I'm ashamed that I haven't got around to thank you for it all. The only thing is just that I don't know if I can risk doing it all. I could do the art my self but can I do both art and the rest of the game, that's the question. I know my self pretty good at this point, if I do to much work I start to slowly get bored of what I'm doing and especially if I have to do something that I don't feel very confident doing. It might seem like I can draw things good but that is because I only draw the things I can draw. More than half of the time I'm trying to draw something I throw it away.

One time I tried drawing a head of a character. I tried to draw it three times, I don't mean three times like in one sitting. I mean three one hour sessions, I just couldn't get it right. In the end i just cut the head out of the image completely. Of course, if I can't get something right I need to practice but I don't want to practice along side with the project. There is still a lot of things I don't know that I can't so it wouldn't help if practice the things I can't draw now. It would make my possibilities less and it would really hurt the project.


@Thaedael post nr.2 Yep, it is those artist blocks I'm talking about. Normally I would switch projects but this time I don't really have anything else to go to. I done with creating animated loops, it would be a project before but not now. If I'm working on something then it is this project else, I'm not working.


@Biles Yep, High Tail Hall has inspired me. The thing is just that I'm not only going to focus on the sex, like I once said "Sex is not the only reason why you should play, but a reward for playing."


@trunks2585 I have actually not found any help (unless you're thinking about the dialog system thread). Right now I'm pretty much slamming on my keyboard. Though I got a bit of thought put in to the beginning of the game and how it will have something to do with the game... Oh, that's a good idea... thinking out loud because I just got an idea for how the game should end... But it doesn't matter that much when I'm just working on a concept demo. It is quite fun actually when I don't have to take it as serious as I would.


@Red.Sheer You are the first one that have said that. I'm glad that there is someone who appreciates something else than sex in a adult game. At the moment I'm just working on a concept demo so I'm not going to put too much effort in the writing now but once I work on the actual game, then I will. I'm going to make sure that it is good. I would love to add more races and skins but there is a problem with adding more which I really need to explain, it is just a bit complicated. If I can solve it then I'm up for adding more races, skins but also things like tattoos, piercings and much more. Is there any races you would like to see?


@hubn99 I'm not sure why you just pasted something I've said but that is good for reminding people.

[BlueLight]

@trunks2585 I have actually not found any help (unless you're thinking about the dialog system thread). Right now I'm pretty much slamming on my keyboard. Though I got a bit of thought put in to the beginning of the game and how it will have something to do with the game... Oh, that's a good idea... thinking out loud because I just got an idea for how the game should end... But it doesn't matter that much when I'm just working on a concept demo. It is quite fun actually when I don't have to take it as serious as I would.

I'd write out in english how your code is going to act.
Don't think of this as "Click on door and go to room or stay in room if locked."
But "click on door runs DinningRoom.door3.checklock and if false then move to room door is connected to.

[Thaedael]

Well, when I finally break down and buy my computer this summer, you won't have time to make a project since I will force you to play mc with me.

[KaTsuO_O]

@BlueLight I'm sorry but were talking about the dialog. At least I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.

@Thaedael Haha, you'll regret it.


Finally, got a some more content done! Have had some problem such as your name not showing up in dialog and the tyoewriter effect fucking up but now I got it working.

I have changed and added more to the beginning, the map and a dialog, The character got some pretty hilarious expressions btw. Don't expect the map to be exciting because it's not but at this point it isn't really supposed to. The dialog on the other had is a bit more exciting. I don't use the "write what you want" system that was planned, instead I just used one with up to three different choices. There is a lot more work than I thought when you make dialog with choices which means that it is going to be a hell lot more work if I would use a more complex system like the one planned. It's really sad to say but I simply can't use a more complex system. I just need to do good with the system I'm using and hopefully it will be good enough I think.

If you want to skip to the "game" then you can press the invisible button that's under the start button on the character customization screen. I have added more to the intro so please look at it once at least and try out different answers in the dialog.

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[GoRepeat]

I need to apologize to you good sir, I have misread your post. I guess I have been too high-strung. It blows my mind that he is also asking for other artists, but for as long as I known Kitty-KatO_O he likes to get directions from other ideas. He tends to suffer from artists blocks and really thrives on helping others and those that give him ideas. It's what makes him awesome. Problem is I planned to help him with a game but as described before, I am dead so I can't help him. =/ Though I know you are a decent writer, so maybe toss something his way XD? Just be warned though, he has a bit of A.D.D. as he likes to switch from project to project.

AND WHATS WRONG WITH A.D.D. AND JUMPING TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS?!?!!?!?

[BlueLight]

I think you could do better with the arrow buttons. Any chance you can have them loop around?
If age was 25-30 and you hit the right arrow then it moves you to 20-25 is what i'm looking for.
I think theres a simple way to do it with arrays but it really depends how you built this and how you like to do stuff.

[Red.Sheer]

@Red.Sheer You are the first one that have said that. I'm glad that there is someone who appreciates something else than sex in a adult game. At the moment I'm just working on a concept demo so I'm not going to put too much effort in the writing now but once I work on the actual game, then I will. I'm going to make sure that it is good. I would love to add more races and skins but there is a problem with adding more which I really need to explain, it is just a bit complicated. If I can solve it then I'm up for adding more races, skins but also things like tattoos, piercings and much more. Is there any races you would like to see?

It is my believe that it is not plain sex and nudity which make a good adult game, but a frame around it that makes you want to get a sexy reward for some effort and thought you put into the game. So, I'm very excited whenever people on this board present an idea which fills the genre with a bit of deep thought ^^ Especially in a kind of dating sim I'd whish for NPCs which manage to entice me with their dialogue and chardesign. It is an ambitious project to manage that, but I'll be very happy to see one of those finished *gg* ^^

Yes, there are races I really would love to see in a furry game. I have a thing for Artiodactyla, so Deer, Sheep, Porcines or Bovines (in that order XD) would be a very nice thing to see, especially if they feature digitigrade hindlegs and hooves instead of human-shaped legs and feet. That's sorta, kinda, something which I'm very fond of ^^'

[Icelink256]

This is an amazing project idea!

...The planning and the rough "mental template" for the art,
really makes me want to draw some damn art for this game.
That is, until I read the words "draw directly in adobe flash",
which is something that isn't possible for me at the moment, so... damn.

This really seems like it'll turn into quite a great project too, much like
High Tail Hall (as mentioned a few posts above).

If you need an artist/cartoonist that can both sketch and modulize a
character, on paper of course! I'll do it, just... on paintshop/gimp, with black
vectors, and a base sketch.

A quick question though, how exactly are you going to make the relationship system work?
The last time I tried something like this, the system ended up with around 30-40 variables,
per character. Ugh... The bad memories coming back.

[Biles]

Well, just because Katsu demands you draw directly on Flash, doesn't mean you can't scan in rough sketch and then redraw them manually through Flash, right?

[KaTsuO_O]

@Gorepete The problem is that if you switch projects then you might not come back to the other. It depends on the person of course but it works a bit like that for me I think.


@BlueLight I'm going to have it so that you can use one arrow to loop all the way around and another loop all the way around the other direction. Think like a combination of age and race so it will work fine once I redo it.


@Red.Sheer I really agree with that. A mistake that can be done is to not make time matter. If you hurt someones feeling and then talk to the character a couple of days later then it will be different if you talk to the character the next day. I could find more examples but I think you see and that is one thing that is going to make all the characters more interesting. Another thing is that the characters is going to act differently depending on gender, race and age. A character may be nice to you as a male but not as a female and the other way around. It will give you a different experience depending on your character and that as well will make the other character more interesting once you notice this but it also gives replayability.

I'm going to put those races in mind and I'm going to add at least one of those if I can solve my problem with the limits.


@Icelink256 I'm going to answer your question before I talk about the art.

I'm going to use variables as well but there is going to a like/dislike variable that's going to be the main one. The variables value will be set when you first meet a character. first it will look at gender, race and age for you, it looks at what the character prefer and then it add to the variable. It will also look at what other character thinks about you which is just one variable and it takes that one and add to the variable. I'll probably need more but those are the ones I can think of now that will do the important things. Then when you do things that variable is going to go + or -. When the character likes you he/she respond differently, be more forgiving, let you ask other questions. I hope it answer your question.

I got one more alternative, you use any program you like and then I'll use trace bitmap in flash. The lines is going to change a bit but I think it is going to work good enough.


@Biles It would be too time consuming I think. There's even a way to let the program redraw it which is what I got in mind now.

[KaTsuO_O]

I don't really like how I just threw together the room you start in and the map. Sure, it doesn't have to look good for people to get the idea but I it just didn't feel like you should care at all about it. Therefore I have now drawn those. I'm still not putting all my effort in to it so it is going to look a lot more polished once I redo it. I haven't done anything else than that but next time I might include something that shows that there is a bit more to this game than dialog and the usual sim stuff but I can't promise anything.

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[FMC]

For an idea of characters to add, do you make a difference between wolves and dogs?

And perhaps add tigers, leopards, cheetahs, that kind of thing. I dunno, I'm fond of those ferocious wild types.

But other than that, I really appreciate you taking the time to make a sim game where there's not only a male you can play as. You don't find very many good-quality dating sims like that, IMO.

[Biles]

maybe using "Feline" and "Canine" might be more accurate and cover a broader range I suppose, same goes with renaming lizards to "reptile" and horses to "equine".

[TedFallenger]

I'm gonna have to agree with the earlier poster about the text speed. It's pretty off-putting to have to wait for the game to progress and tell you what's going on.

[Red.Sheer]

@Red.Sheer I really agree with that. A mistake that can be done is to not make time matter. If you hurt someones feeling and then talk to the character a couple of days later then it will be different if you talk to the character the next day. I could find more examples but I think you see and that is one thing that is going to make all the characters more interesting. Another thing is that the characters is going to act differently depending on gender, race and age. A character may be nice to you as a male but not as a female and the other way around. It will give you a different experience depending on your character and that as well will make the other character more interesting once you notice this but it also gives replayability.

I'm going to put those races in mind and I'm going to add at least one of those if I can solve my problem with the limits.

Yes, I agree. Time is something that should have meaning, as well as the NPC relation between each other. If you'd want to just bang everything in sight you should fall flat on your ass. There should be NPCs fine with that but others should be very angry at you for such a behaviour. In general, you shouldn't be able to do just everything there is in the game in one run. There are just people, depending on your choice, who aren't interested in you or the possiblity to seriously screw up the relation to a NPC. Maybe you can somehow become a gigolo to go around as many NPCs as possible, but the gaming experience should be equal to players who really try to get only one of the NPCs to the next level. It'll be hard work to make such a game really more than just a "Hi, fuck me!" thingy, I'm really excited

Oh, and just your statement that you'll put at least one of those species I mentioned in the game makes me all fuzzy XD It is so rare to see something besides cats and dogs in furry games *gg* If you'd like some opinions or suggestions on chardesigns, feel free to ask ^^

Regarding the Demo as it is now I have two suggestions:

While I like the style the text is given out, I think there should definitely be a "skip"-function in there. The first time it's nice, but especially if you consider that this forum will be essentially your staff of beta-testers, having to wait over and over again for the text to appear might become a bit tedious.

And I don't know, maybe that's an issue with my computer, but the initial blurred silhouette in the "listen to the voice..." sequence really eats up my computer's ressources, it even slows down windows itself Anyone else having trouble with this?