Beastality

[BlueLight]

homosexuality wasn't the best thing to compare to furries, as its not always a fetish like furry is. (it can be, regardless of what gay activists will tell you) But I dont think fetishes are based off of some kind of biological imperative to reproduce like sexuality is. fetishes are basically just interests, being into furries is just like being into horror movies. current society makes you hide them like hell so i think they develop in a much more linear fashion than most interests. if people just stood around the water cooler talking about the freaky shit they jerk off they would just be hobbies.

actually think of it more like food, people arent biologically inclined to like pizza or jello or w/e the hell

i agree

[talin]

Then smackman ruins my awesome scientific theory just like that... I would still argue that genetics has a fairly decent impact on preferences due to it making our brains develop differently to similar stimulation. After years of living exactly the same way, two people being suddenly introduced to the same furry content could cause drastically different reactions. (one thinking it a horrible atrocity and the other thinking it an interesting turn-on) I'm pretty sure by now that genetics are the starting point and life is the actions that mold and change you.

[BlueLight]

Then smackman ruins my awesome scientific theory just like that... I would still argue that genetics has a fairly decent impact on preferences due to it making our brains develop differently to similar stimulation. After years of living exactly the same way, two people being suddenly introduced to the same furry content could cause drastically different reactions. (one thinking it a horrible atrocity and the other thinking it an interesting turn-on) I'm pretty sure by now that genetics are the starting point and life is the actions that mold and change you.

fetishes are driven by childhood.
The type of person you are is developed by environment and genes. Weakest genes in the best environment is the same as the worst environment with the best genes.

[Smackman]

Then smackman ruins my awesome scientific theory just like that... I would still argue that genetics has a fairly decent impact on preferences due to it making our brains develop differently to similar stimulation. After years of living exactly the same way, two people being suddenly introduced to the same furry content could cause drastically different reactions. (one thinking it a horrible atrocity and the other thinking it an interesting turn-on) I'm pretty sure by now that genetics are the starting point and life is the actions that mold and change you.

fetishes are driven by childhood.
The type of person you are is developed by environment and genes. Weakest genes in the best environment is the same as the worst environment with the best genes.

The type of person you are is actually mostly just environment. Natural selection is determined by how genetics react with the environment. But the human race exhibits artificial selection for the most part.
The impact genetics have on a persons psychological development is things like how a larger guy may not get picked on as much in school etc.

There aren't "best" and "worst" genes though. There are environments and some traits work and some don't, if those traits dont work in that environment the species will die, if they do they will continue to survive.

[talin]

You just basically restated Darwin's theory of natural selection so ya I suppose your right in that aspect, I always thought genetics had a mental impact as well such as what is exhibited in things like retardation, savant minded people, as well as various other mental defects that have affected a minority of our race since early times. to be clear, I believe that if it could have such adverse effects, then it could have lesser or more passive effects on the way a mind develops. They found that some people have different shapes and sizes of brain but since we lack the ability to really test exactly how they work, we haven't found if these different shapes and sizes were developed naturally or as they were needed to be developed until the brain ran out of room to keep growing as fast as it does in the first years of life.

As another prime example, I myself, am an "introvert" which means I am put under a great deal of mental strain when dealing with face to face encounters. It's not that I can't handle them, it's that my mind naturally works and preforms better when I am completely alone with my thoughts. I believe there are a few articles about this on the web but I haven't visited them in a while so I don't remember the URLs.

[Mr. Bingo]

This is going to pretty much come out of no were, but....

Gay= Happy.

Good day.

[Smackman]

99.9% of people you encounter will think homosexual if you say gay. unless you go "lets have a gay old time" in which case they'll still think homosexual but they'll know what you meant

[Suraru]

Ok, I've read the lst 2 pages, first I laughed, then I was all like "??? Ok then?"
Then I got bored a skimmed.

Gay/furry/anyonethatwantstofuckanythingotherthentheoppositegender I agree with being defects. I have always thought this, but its defects that make humans so damn awesome. No one is perfect, and being different is awesome... somtimes.

[Zeus Kabob]

^this.

[Smackman]

I think homosexuality is a "defect" but furry is a fetish that has nothing to do with functional sexuality...

[BlueLight]

I think homosexuality is a "defect" but furry is a fetish that has nothing to do with functional sexuality...

think what you will. If I admit homosexuality is a defect, I am saying it's genetic, which I don't agree with.
What we are never changes, but who we are is continues to change.

[Suraru]

If I admit homosexuality is a defect, I am saying it's genetic

Now I'm not saying its genetic... oh wait, yes I am!
What I am not saying is that its hereditary. I believe it to be the same as (famous example) ADHD, which I don't think its hereditary, but it is obviously genetic, its a mental disorder that can happen while the fetus is being made.

However, fetishes are due to childhood influences, and homosexuality could be a fetish.....

We are getting derailed here, we should make a homosexuality topic..........

[Zeus Kabob]

To be fair, I've been diagnosed with ADHD, but that's only because many doctors have forgotten what "disorder" is supposed to mean in the medical world. It's supposed to be something that removes the ability to function in "normal" society. As I'm doing fine, I don't call it a medical "disorder", but I realize that it isn't standard.

My parents are also quite "scatterbrained", so I believe it runs in the family. One question we have to ask at this point is whether it was nature or nurture that made me the person I am today. It could very well be that I could have been born into a boring house and still developed ADHD, but it could also be that I wouldn't have been that way without my parents.

For me, though, my ADHD is very fun. I can sit down in a classroom for hours without having to jump up and do something else, so I'm capable of being very well-adjusted, but at the same time I have the mental energy to do all sorts of things. Maybe I'm not able to sit down and do something boring for hours, but I've got a never-ending stream of ideas popping into my head, and I don't see that as a bad thing.

[Smackman]

on the fetish level basically all people are bisexual to some degree. Religion has been so integrated into modern society that things like bestiality and homosexuality are isolated and considered perverted, when in reality they're actually natural within their own means... (i came across some interesting reading in a comment section somewhere where a LOT of girls were letting their dogs eat them out, the dog naturally goes for it and had society not told people it was wrong it would be happening all the time)

the weird and fucked up thing that makes me think that homosexuality isnt a fetish though, is the fact that they ONLY like the same sex. thats just fucked up if you think about it. theres no biological imperative to do that, and if it was a fetish theyd still like girls as well.

but yeah it does seem like something that happens in the womb, i think sociopathy and autism and a bunch of stuff are the same way as well as ADD and w/e

[Zeus Kabob]

If you think about it, there could be those who were bisexual, but then had a bad experience with a chick and said "fuck that shit, I'm staying with men".

[Thee Pie Man]

Merp. This topic is so random. I went into it for the same reason as trunks, realized that there's actually more YES then NO. Which was strange in a way to me given it wasn't talking about "furry" but actual beastality, then it evolved into a "Are Homosexuals born with being Homosexual or not?"
On topic: As far as beastality goes I am not into it, and I have never even thought of any kind of sexual stoof with an animal.
I do think it's wrong when people get dogs and teach them to fuck them.

I also really like horses so the people that do that stuff like fucking them, I would love to be in a room alone with them to tell them off. and trying to be cum showered seem ridiculously stupid, not attractive in the very least.

I don't see how it's not Illegal on the net, you think they would put out a ban wagon for all those "zoo" sites or whatever, stupid money. Money should not put sites over the physical and mental states of animals. e.e

Off topic:Personally for awhile I saw it as a personal preference, then I thought of how there is bi's they are in the middle liking both correct?

So what makes the human be homosexual, straight or bi?

There's been a lot of theories on it, honestly I think it comes down to a major change for gender in whatever persons when they are in their fetus stage. Where, if I am correct, they go through a change from female to male or male to female. Likely the brain doesn't apply the change rapidly enough, giving the person the natural instinct to go for etc etc. Which also explains why most Males that are homosexual (not saying all but from what I have seen) are more feminine while the woman that are lesbian's often show traits of being strong (not that normal woman aren't strong in their own right) but stronger willed and more into being like guys (again not that some woman that are straight don't show this. ((also from many personal experiences with many of my closer friend's being lesbians)

I don't think it comes from genetics per say or a birth "defect" I think it comes from what I said above.

Like most theories I can't really test this. At all. It's just my two cents

[Zeus Kabob]

Sounds good.

I'm in the same boat as you regarding "real" bestiality. (men fucking pigs? Most disgusting thing ever...) I am, however, into drawn bestiality. I think it's because the drawn porn personifies the animals in a way that makes them accessible as sentient beings. Also, there's the whole "fantasy" argument and whatnot.

At the end of the day, bestiality in hentai is a form of "monster sex", which I'm interested in if done right. I think it has something to do with the thought that in that world penis rules all. It doesn't matter if you're ugly or w/e, if you have skill in sex you can get any chick wet.

[Smackman]

I found some real stuff one time.. its not great or anything, dogs hump everything they lick everything it looks like a dog humping a chair but the chairs a chick

[talin]

Was she really that big or did she use other means to achieve that illusion? I honestly haven't gone looking for any "real" bestiality stuff but it's starting to sound a bit too common. Am I going to have to start closing out this kind of spam on furry sites?

[Thee Pie Man]

Was she really that big or did she use other means to achieve that illusion? I honestly haven't gone looking for any "real" bestiality stuff but it's starting to sound a bit too common. Am I going to have to start closing out this kind of spam on furry sites?

Supposedly there's a lot of "real" stuff and from what I have seen, it seems real enough (I never want to be curious again, ever)
But yeah, I was really stupid. There's a lot of dog's fucking woman out there I know that much *shivers* Dog's are going to replace us.

What is really sad is there seems to be nothing being done to the sites that host that crap or are strictly for it.