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by **that man** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:26 am

This is a game idea I had, and I'm going to use the idea from the Soul Bound rpg (idea here) (won't impact roleplay, if I ever start it.

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What to have is what the pictures show:
Having a screen showing images of locations/people.
Text describing the interactions and nuances of a situation.
There being bars showing how alive, horny, experienced, and tired you are.
Having dungeons in things like labs, sewers, abandoned buildings, gated communities, citadels, and the like.
Open world area (...well, as open world as CoC(which may (or may not) have been an influence) or KoL).
Character customization, including the ability to become a Bound Soul slowly overtime, or simply ally themselves with Bound Souls (gives you more abilities, and can slowly change you).
...this is what I have:

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So, that is alpha build 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
I'm going to work on getting it from...what it's at, to something resembling the Incredible and sexy test screens. Any and all feedback, comments, praise, death threats, questions, confusion, help, etc.
Thank you for putting up with all this text, and have a nice day.

by **Void Director** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:00 am

that man Wrote:...this is what I have:
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<html>
<head>
<title>???</title>
</head>
<body>
<P>Slowly, your eyes open, as you find yourself in an incredibly dark room. <br>
You don't actually know where you are, aside from being on some sort of old bed,<br>
but it does seem vaugley familiar. <br>
More importantly, the back of your head kind of hurts, sort of like someone<br>
hit you with a sort of club.<br>
As you try to reach for the back of your head, you realize that one of your<br>
hands has been tied with your other hand behind your back.<br>
As you look down, you can vaugly make out your body...<br>
but it somehow feels...<br>
different.<br></p>
<p>You see:<br>
<a href="nothing.html">
boobs </a>
<br>
<a href="zip.html">
dick </a>
<br>
<a href="nadda.html">
...both? </a>
</p>
</body>
</html>

So are you doing it JavaScript/HTML then? Personally have found AngularJS very useful in my text game projects. It does take some time to learn though. Organizing your code into modules with something like RequireJS is also a good idea (although I found require's documentation very confusing intially, took me awhile to get it).

I would also consider making your project open source and posting it on github (especially if you already know how to use git, if you don't it will be helpful later). This will allow you to easily get help on it.

by **that man** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:58 am

Thanks for the tip. I have no idea how I'll get it to what I want, but it's at least a start. I still don't know what github is, though.

by **Void Director** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:36 am

that man Wrote:Thanks for the tip. I have no idea how I'll get it to what I want, but it's at least a start. I still don't know what github is, though.

You probably don't need to worry about it for awhile then. Git is a revision control system. Basically it stores versions of your files. For example when working on a essay in Microsoft word you might copy paste the file and change its file name to something like "Essay Draft 1" then make a draft 2 and 3. Revision control systems give you more powerful tools to create versions of many files at once and do things like compare those files to older versions. Github is a place where git repositories are stored. It allows you to freely host open source software so that others can easily view your code.

I would wait until you have a working engine before worrying about any of that though.

by **that man** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:23 pm

Well, I'll do that in the future then. As soon as I figure out how to make the basic engine, I'll try posting an unpdate, ok?

by **that man** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:56 pm

Ok, I managed to make a VERY basic engine in javascript (no dialogue yet, and still working out some bugs), and I was hoping if someone else could run it because, if not, then I'll have to try a different language. If it does run, let me know, and I'll try to work with it from there.
edit:
It would seem that the program doesn't even load (or show it's code) properly...
I'm putting it in a readable form here for anyone who feels like helping me:

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by **kvier** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:42 pm

1- You can't put spaces in variable names ("lesser witch")
2- You probably need a little tiny stub html file to tell the browser to run the javascript, rather than simply display it
3- You've got mismatched {}s in the tests of the .health property
4- You've incorrectly referred to the player object as Player once
5- Currently you're doing the entire combat in one long while loop, which will hang the browser until it's done. You should use timers or something.
6- If you minify your javascript before you're completely done debugging it, it'll make it a lot more frustrating to debug it.

by **that man** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:25 am

kvier Wrote:1- You can't put spaces in variable names ("lesser witch")
2- You probably need a little tiny stub html file to tell the browser to run the javascript, rather than simply display it
3- You've got mismatched {}s in the tests of the .health property
4- You've incorrectly referred to the player object as Player once
5- Currently you're doing the entire combat in one long while loop, which will hang the browser until it's done. You should use timers or something.
6- If you minify your javascript before you're completely done debugging it, it'll make it a lot more frustrating to debug it.

...so, pretty much, everything is wrong? Yeah, in all honesty, the number of ideas as to what I'm doing is next to 0, so, I'm at least glad for this wake up call. I've cleaned up most of those mistakes (I'll only post it again this soon if you want to double check), but I still can't find the mismatched .health property, how to launch it online (maybe) or a way to do the timer right.

by **kvier** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:39 am

The mismatched {}s-

Code: Select All Code: if (selectedmonster.health < 0){ monsterdead = 1; battle = 0; *there should be a } here* if (selectedmonster.lust < 0){ monsterhorny = 1; battle = 0; }

and there's another instance right below it.

If you want to distribute the game as a single file (e.g. as an attachment here), rather than an archive of things that will be unpacked and read locally or from a "real" webserver, you'll want to wrap your javascript with <html><head><script>*your existing javascript*</script></head></html>.

Firefox and Chrome both come with fairly powerful debuggers, so spending some time getting familiar with either of them would be useful. However, neither of them can un-minify javascript that's part of an html page, so either split it out (<script src="file_containing_javascript.js"></script>) or ... don't minify it?

For timers, try reading MDN's documentation: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... ipt/Timers

by **BlueLight** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:24 am

So i'm kinda thinking i should release my engine when i get done with it. These problems are stuff i've already doing in unity.

by **that man** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:46 pm

Ok, well I've managed to mess around with the code some more, but I still can't get it to work right. This one here is devoid of timers (since I still don't get how to set those), and should be fixable

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Aside from that, should I focus on getting the battle engine running, or something else?

by **BlueLight** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:57 pm

GAH!!!!! Can't read, not indented. Must waste life fixing problem.

that man Wrote:
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<SCRIPT>
var players = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

var player = new players(25, 500, 25, 100);

var monsters = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

var lesser_witch = new monsters(25, 250, 25, 100);
var goblin = new monsters(25, 100, 10, 100);
var lilith = new monsters(15, 500, 50, 100);

var names;

var randomnumber = Math.floor(Math.random(10)*10);

var selectedmonster;
if (randomnumber >= 0 && randomnumber < 3){
selectedmonster = lesser_witch;
names = "Lesser Witch";
}
else if (randomnumber > 3 && randomnumber < 6){
selectedmonster = goblin;
names = "Goblin";
}
else if (randomnumber > 6){
selectedmonster = lilith;
names = "Lilith";
}

var battle = 1;
var monsterdead = 0;
var playerdead = 0;
var monsterhorny = 0;
var playerhorny = 0;

var playerturn = 1;
var monsterturn = 0;
while (battle == 1){

while (playerturn == 1){

selectedmonster.health = selectedmonster.health - Math.ceil(Math.random(player.attack)*10);
console.log(names + "'s Health is now " + selectedmonster.health);
selectedmonster.lust = selectedmonster.lust - Math.ceil (Math.random(Player.attraction)*10);
console.log(names + "'s Resitence is at " + selectedmonster.lust);
playerturn = 0;
monsterturn = 1;
}
while (monsterturn == 1){
player.health = players.health - Math.ceil(Math.random(selectedmonster.attack)*10);
console.log("Player's Health is now " + players.health);
player.lust = players.lust - Math.ceil (Math.random(selectedmonster.attraction)*10);
console.log(names + "'s Resitence is at " + players.lust);
playerturn = 1;
monsterturn = 0;
}
if (selectedmonster.health < 0){
monsterdead = 1;
battle = 0;
}
if (selectedmonster.lust < 0){
monsterhorny = 1;
battle = 0;
}
if (players.health < 0){
playerdead = 1;
battle = 0;
}
if (players.lust < 0){
playerhorny = 1;
battle = 0;
}
}
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>
</HTML>

Hell with those HeadTags.

by **BlueLight** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:01 pm

Sorry for the double post but the last post is to long that constant editing was not viable.
i'm being strict about things you likely don't care about right now but i have to be strict if your going to improve.

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by **that man** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:43 pm

BlueLight Wrote:Sorry for the double post but the last post is to long that constant editing was not viable.
i'm being strict about things you likely don't care about right now but i have to be strict if your going to improve.

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okay so looking at your code i see something strange.
var players = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

var player = new players(25, 500, 25, 100);

var monsters = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

what are you copying code. What is so different that you need 2 methods that do exactly the same thing?
Sorry for being an ass but this in the 21st century and this is important. You should be reducing redundancies in your code. Let me put it this way, a college near me will fail you if any code repeats.

var lesser_witch = new monsters(25, 250, 25, 100);
var goblin = new monsters(25, 100, 10, 100);
var lilith = new monsters(15, 500, 50, 100);

I think this will a problem but if your just copying the values then i don't think so. I'd likely use a array of monsters and add a name variable.

var randomnumber = Math.floor(Math.random(10)*10);

what the hell is a randomnumber? There should be some way for you to clearly label variables and method/functions in your program. The naming convention for Java would be "randomNumber". It follows the idea that variables are all lowercase except in (special cases) and (with the first letter of words except first character). I litterally see ran and then everything after is goop at a glace.

Why are you using a integer to check your while loop?
unless your language doesn't allow it, you should be able to do the following.
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boolean inBattle = true; while(inBattle){}// or while(inBattle == true){}

Finally.... Where are your comments young man!

...it's because I really have no idea how to program? I mean, I can set up rooms and dialogues just fine, but I was just sort of shooting in the dark here. Heck, most of this code is just from templates and outdated books, and the repetitiveness came more from inexperience.

by **Zeus Kabob** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:46 pm

BlueLight Wrote:
var randomnumber = Math.floor(Math.random(10)*10);

what the hell is a randomnumber? There should be some way for you to clearly label variables and method/functions in your program. The naming convention for Java would be "randomNumber". It follows the idea that variables are all lowercase except in (special cases) and (with the first letter of words except first character). I litterally see ran and then everything after is goop at a glace.

You shouldn't be telling people that they're wrong for using a different naming convention from you.

that man Wrote:...it's because I really have no idea how to program? I mean, I can set up rooms and dialogues just fine, but I was just sort of shooting in the dark here. Heck, most of this code is just from templates and outdated books, and the repetitiveness came more from inexperience.

That's fine, there's always time to learn. Take it easy, use lots of tutorials, and be willing to experiment. I can't tell you how many times a program was easier because I tried some crazy thing I didn't think would work.

If you're having trouble finding tutorials to teach you the theory behind the data structures, functions, variables, and other things you're dealing with, you can try to find good descriptions of those things on Wikipedia or through tutorials for other similarly implemented programming languages.

by **kvier** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:01 pm

The only reason I could find that your most recent post didn't run was that you had Player instead of player on line 56. After I change that, firefox's debugger does give me a long stream of intended messages in the log when I reload.

There are a few other issues (e.g. on line 65 you use the variable names instead of the string "Player's"), but you should be able to find them once you have it running.

by **BlueLight** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:33 pm

that man Wrote:
BlueLight Wrote:Sorry for the double post but the last post is to long that constant editing was not viable.
i'm being strict about things you likely don't care about right now but i have to be strict if your going to improve.

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

okay so looking at your code i see something strange.
var players = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

var player = new players(25, 500, 25, 100);

var monsters = function(attack, health, attraction, lust){
this.health = health;
this.attack = attack;
this.attraction = attraction;
this.lust = lust;
};

what are you copying code. What is so different that you need 2 methods that do exactly the same thing?
Sorry for being an ass but this in the 21st century and this is important. You should be reducing redundancies in your code. Let me put it this way, a college near me will fail you if any code repeats.

var lesser_witch = new monsters(25, 250, 25, 100);
var goblin = new monsters(25, 100, 10, 100);
var lilith = new monsters(15, 500, 50, 100);

I think this will a problem but if your just copying the values then i don't think so. I'd likely use a array of monsters and add a name variable.

var randomnumber = Math.floor(Math.random(10)*10);

what the hell is a randomnumber? There should be some way for you to clearly label variables and method/functions in your program. The naming convention for Java would be "randomNumber". It follows the idea that variables are all lowercase except in (special cases) and (with the first letter of words except first character). I litterally see ran and then everything after is goop at a glace.

Why are you using a integer to check your while loop?
unless your language doesn't allow it, you should be able to do the following.
Code: Select All Code
boolean inBattle = true; while(inBattle){}// or while(inBattle == true){}

Finally.... Where are your comments young man!

...it's because I really have no idea how to program? I mean, I can set up rooms and dialogues just fine, but I was just sort of shooting in the dark here. Heck, most of this code is just from templates and outdated books, and the repetitiveness came more from inexperience.

don't worry about. As I said I'm being harsh. Just consider this a wake up call for what your code itself needs.

Edit
Zues I never complained about different naming convention but a lack of one.

by **that man** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:58 pm

The problem is, I have an Idea of what I want the code to do, have half an idea what the code has to look like to do it, but no real idea how to implement it. I'll look at tutorials to get a good idea of how to fix these problems, but I have no idea how long that will take. In the mean time, a prototype (in paint, I was going to do some scanned in ones, but my scanner been acting up).

kvier Wrote:The only reason I could find that your most recent post didn't run was that you had Player instead of player on line 56. After I change that, firefox's debugger does give me a long stream of intended messages in the log when I reload.

There are a few other issues (e.g. on line 65 you use the variable names instead of the string "Player's"), but you should be able to find them once you have it running.

Can I see those messages?

by **kvier** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:32 pm

In firefox-
Tools / Web developer / Web Console
When your code doesn't work, for whatever reason, open the debugger:
Tools / Web developer / Debugger
and then reload the page.

In chrome,
≡ / Tools / Javascript console

by **that man** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:17 pm

kvier Wrote:In firefox-
Tools / Web developer / Web Console
When your code doesn't work, for whatever reason, open the debugger:
Tools / Web developer / Debugger
and then reload the page.

In chrome,
≡ / Tools / Javascript console

...I don't know what I'm doing differently with my code, but it still won't run...

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