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The Sim Project

Postby KaTsuO_O » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:37 pm

A bit about the project

It is going to be an adult furry dating sim. You create your own character, choose gender, species and appearance. Your goal is to get a partner, if the partner likes you enough, then you can get together in the bed.

You'll be able to work to earn money. The different jobs will be mini-games, that in some way will represent the real job. with the money you earn, you can spend it on different items, clothes, consumables, gifts, etc. Some of those can help you when you want to get together, but it can also be the opposite if you don't know him or her too well.

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Re: Flash Artist?

Postby trunks2585 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:36 am

You of all people should know better than to ask for something like this. Also you're suppose to be an artist yourself, just keep working on your own artwork. The game is a nice idea, but that's kind of the trend around here and you know it too. Lots of ideas, little results. Seriously you're better off drawing the stuff yourself, have some faith in your own abilities.
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Re: Flash Artist?

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:19 pm

Unfortunately he is right :roll: Even i try to learn how to draw a little - becouse it is hard to find content some times (http://ownerofsuccuby.narod.ru/gal/9.jpg - but fail for now :lol: - i understand a little how to draw on paper but still can not draw in computer programs).

Some times it is more simple to make some thing based on what you already have.

For example - we have a lot of unfinished stuff from PlayShapes, a lot of oter good stuff. Some times it is simpler to make game based on that materials that you already have, then make a scenario and try to draw material for it :mrgreen: And LoK community is seporated now. Some part is making one game - one part another game. So no complicated stuff. And progress slow down. But may be i am wrong :mrgreen:
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Re: Flash Artist?

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:25 pm

@trunks2585 I know, I wasn't sure if I were going to ask about it but I really want to work on a new project. I also don't think it hurts to ask about it, can always remove it after a week or two. Where else is there people who draw anthro characters and use Flash, this forum is the first thing I'm thinking about.

Yeah, I'm supposed to be an artist but I don't think I'm good enough really. I would like to have a good artstyle that can give the project the right look and at the moment I barely have any artstyle. I'm also bad when it comes to different positions and angles so what I can do is quite limited.

I know how it works and that is why I'm looking for help so I'm not alone at least, I just need to find the right person. Again, I don't think I'm good enough when it comes to drawing, especially characters so it would make things a lot easier.

But I know that you know what you're talking about. If I can't find anyone then I'll do it myself or I'll just drop it for later.


@OwnerOfSuccuby I think you've done quite a good job with your drawings, better than other things I've seen and I see that you understand things that others don't. If you want I can show you how to draw in Flash... Mo ha ha now you're mine... But seriously if you're interested, just message me.

It would be easy to use all the "models" that have been made, parts of games and animations but it is far from what I'm interested in.
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Re: Flash Artist?

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:20 pm

It was a little strange when you ask for some system like chat entrance test. Are you working on some kind of "Virtual girl" now like "virtual pet"? Am i ight ? Or you are making more then 1 project now ? Or you make some thing even more interesting ? ;) Can you tell us a little about it ? Or it is a secret ? ;)
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Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:54 pm

@OwnerOfSuccuby That dialog system from my previous thread (assuming that is what you mean) is actually supposed to be added to this project. It wouldn't be like Virtual girl (assuming you talk about the desktop strippers) It's going to be like a life simulator where you take control of your own character in a anthro world.

This is not a thread about the game but I think I can tell a bit more about it. Nothing of this is down on the paper, only ideas. I would plan more but I'm going to do that once I know if there is any artist interested in the project or if I'm alone.

The world is not the earth but a fairly similar and more advanced world. It allows for twists to what we know while keeping it close enough for us to relate to it. Example, there might be cars but let's say the wheels is replaced by something different that still can move it forward. We can easily tell that it is a car but the difference is noticeable.

Since this still is ideas I might just make it like earth but with anthros but we'll see.

If you want to know more, please let me know and let me know what you would like to hear more about.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/Project Idea

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:37 pm

It is very very VERY resource-intensive i think. Just for example: do you know the Tera Online game ? I like characters and animation there. Or for example L2. A lot of people work there for very long time to make it. There ability are very good like for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... GJCBGhyO7o
How long will ordinary human do this ?

It is like compare how long printer will wright some thing and a human do.

As a big fan of game Parasie Eve (I like how main character girl of first part of the game looks like :mrgreen: ).

It is 2.5 d game. Like 3 d and you can not move camera. It is possible to make on Flash (i already think about some thing like this :mrgreen: )

Just think about how much work you will need for it. It have to be animated in 8 or even more directions. Every enemy and object (i do not mean back grounds or big enemies that are looking from back ground on you ;) )

Now take for example LoK game it is more then one year i think = and a lot of people worked with it. Now imagen it would be 8 times shorter ;) Or take 8 times more time :mrgreen:

This is the main prblem i think. If make the game with the same same same levels enemy and etc. it will not be interesting. Or it will be short ;)

The global games makes like social mmo i think - and they are making by big groups of people. I saw only 1= 2.5d game on flash with good animation - and very short.

If it will be 2d - how you will you going to make this ?

So think about it if you want to make something like this ;)

Some times it is better to have tomtit in your hand then crane in the sky :mrgreen:
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:30 pm

@OwnerOfSuccuby I don't think I can describe what that video is about for anyone to understand... He slams and drags his finger against a piece of glass making art that looks like carefully hand-painted art... My mind is blown. I've seen other impressive things but that is the most mind blowing.

Yes, there needs to be a bunch of work put in to a project like this but something that makes it easier (I guess) is that there is no real end to it. I can't say what is left to do because I can still add more to it so if I'm making this then I would to release more content as the time goes on and not everything once I'm done. That still means that it still will take long to make but at least it will be released.

I also don't need to use a very complex artstyle. I can just have lines and flat color. It doesn't necessarily means that it have to look rushed or anything, it would just be an artstyle for the game. A good example of simple but great artstyle is the one in the new Mlp and other cartoons. With a simple artstyle it would reduce the amount of work but not the quality.

"It have to be animated in 8 or even more directions. Every enemy and object" Enemies and objects? It is just a "adult life simulator thingy" not an action game. A "kind of" example is High Tail Hall (http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=446 ... =720&h=480). I would have used it as an example but it is only really focused on the sex which is not what I got in mind. It will work similar though. A 2d game where you move around to different areas, interact with characters and items and so on.

The problem with the LoK example is that it haven't been developed for as long. There have been brakes, different version have been developed and then dropped. It all depends on how solid things is and not always on how many that have worked on it and how long it have been worked on. Duke Nukem Forever is a great example.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:26 am

Oh i think understand you now. Good idea about dialog system then :)

Some thing like DNA sim girls / Ganguro Girl / Star Dust / Love Hina - Sim Date RPG ?

I even take (steal :mrgreen: :lol: ) one character from old versions (it was not protected :roll: :mrgreen: ) of that games to my site :lol: - i liked how she was done :mrgreen:
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:56 am

"Some thing like DNA sim girls / Ganguro Girl / Star Dust / Love Hina - Sim Date RPG ?" Got it! What they all got common is obvious, it is all hentai. I've said it before but to remind everyone, this is supposed to be an anthro sim game (furry) and I really think it is something we need.

It is also better for those who likes a different experience since hentai is about humans and anthros is more like a character from your own imagination. It gives anyone the opportunity to "become" this character that they got in mind instead of a fairly normal guy or girl. You will also be able to interact with the characters that is quite different from real life people since they are furries and with the dialog system that is planed I think it will give a great experience.

By the way, are you talking about Rio? (lower left screenshot http://images1.swfchan.com/9/44618b.jpg) I'm pretty sure she is the "main face" of High Tail Hall so I don't know if stealing is a good idea.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby OwnerOfSuccuby » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:09 am

No ) I am talking about ganguro girl ;) :mrgreen: I like that game - so take some of her animation from there :mrgreen: But it does not matter :lol:

If we take for example - LoK and Dusty's Castle ;)

It is like quest or something like that. It looks ... hm say "it looks more realistic" - fore a games with furry - may be a little strange :lol: - but ok it does :mrgreen:

The game where locations are changing by buttons is looking more like video comix for me.

Just for example:
http://www.pawn.se/comics/
http://shingallon.com/cynthiadancecolor.jpg
http://www.rabbitvalley.com/pictures/ro ... k-1282.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2302/2275 ... z.jpg?zz=1
http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/ ... Furry1.jpg

A lot of comix writer has good ability to draw and there draw style looks good for use in flash i think. May be it will be productive to find furry comix wrighter for that :mrgreen:

They can draw characters in different pose and can draw background/ other characters :mrgreen:

May be there are some people like that in LoK community ?
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:00 pm

I didn't look at all of those games you mentioned in your previous post. Now when you point out Ganguro Girl I had to take a look at it... That's it, that's the game I've played many years ago and now it been my inspiration for my own project. It is a great example of how I would like the game to be. Though I'm not just going to take everything from that game and add it in my own. I'm going to take what I like and change it in a way that it improves and then add my own things to it.

But I haven't played it since last time which was many years ago so I'm going to take a look at it again and try to compare it to what I have in mind.

"It is like quest or something like that. It looks ... hm say "it looks more realistic" - fore a games with furry - may be a little strange - but ok it does" I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you talking about art styles or the way the game plays?

"May be there are some people like that in LoK community ?" If those wanted to help then that would be great but I think a problem is that I need someone that can draw in flash.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:22 pm

I have noticed that the character "customization" in Ganguro Girl is pointless. The characters never call your name, age and zodiac doesn't matter. Even adding points to straight, knowledge and charm doesn't matter that much. If you can change your character then it should matter. I have also noticed a lot of other things in that game and other as well but I save that for later.

*Flash removed*

That is all there is so please don't yell "How do I proceed!?". It is just a concept.

Let me explain why each of those matter. Name, that is what the other character will call you. Gender, obvious differences in dialog, some prefer one over the other and in scenes. Race, slight differences in dialog, some prefer a certain race over an other and in scenes. Age, differences in dialog and some prefer one over the other. Skin, some prefer one over the other and in scenes.

You won't really see your character but you will see his/her's torso, arms, legs and/or genitals from a point of view perspective in sex and other circumstances. That is what I mean by "in scenes". That's also why I didn't go all out with the character customization but I think there's enough to make a difference.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby IrrelevantComment » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:37 pm

The concept seems very interesting, sadly though I can't draw for shit, only program. What you could always do is draw some of the characters now yourself, and then later try and find an artist to replace/improve what you have done. I think artists would be more inclined to work on your project once you have already shown you are committed to the game and that it is actually going somewhere
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:53 pm

@IrrelevantComment you got a good point there but instead of drawing characters I'm just adding more without the characters. I think that as well can show that I'm going to do some work on the project and hopefully get someone who can help.

*Flash Removed*

There we go, got some more done.

You who have looked at it, do you wonder what the hell is going on? It makes me happy if that's the case. I want to give you something to wonder about, something you want to know more about.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby Biles » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:04 pm

Hmm, I curious, is it possible for you to create a template of sorts to provide the number of angles and position of the players' character? At least we get some idea of what the chosen artist would need to draw. And this would be crucial too if you want body parts from different species to align correctly when it comes to animating and stuff. One suggestion, you may wanna add in at least a hairstyle for the time being. As for outfits, I assume that's a task that may need to be handled differently assume, right?

>.> Also I don't suppose transgenders could be added into your game, could they?
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby KaTsuO_O » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:39 am

@Biles good call. I thought I explained it in the first post but now I really see that I need to provide more information.

I understand if you haven't read this, I'm just quoting it to remind. "You won't really see your character but you will see his/her's torso, arms, legs and/or genitals from a point of view perspective in sex and other circumstances." It obvious means that you won't see your character's face which means less work and less options in the menu. Some might not like it but just think about that you are playing your character, why would you be able to see your character when you can't see yourself... Unless you look in to a mirror... You get what I mean. So the art needed for the main character is as said torso, arms, legs and genitals from a "his eyes" perspective (pov). The thing is just that I need different bodies depending on what gender and race which means (1 X 2) X 4 = 8 different main character possibilities that needs to be drawn. If we count the different skins then that's 8 X 2 = 16. It sounds like a bit but again, all I need is the lines and once I got those I can use them over and over, I don't need more art for the main character.

To the other characters. I don't know how many characters there will be but I can tell how much artwork there will be for each. first I need artwork of the character being in the background, for example standing against a wall, sitting somewhere, etc. I'm thinking of around 2-5 of those for each character depending on the character. You click on the character in the background to interact with him/her and the characters is not always going to be in the same place so that is why more than one is needed for each character.

When you interact with a character you're going to get a front view of him/her. The character will show different expression depending on the mood, what he/she says, what you say and what you have said in the past. It is up to the artist if he/she want to go simple where only eyes, mouth and ears changes depending on the expression or if the character is going to move a bit. Looking more in to the camera when happy, looking down when sad and so on. I'm thinking of around 10 expression so that is 10 X Number of characters = Y. They will probably also wear different clothes from time to time but I haven't thought about it so I can't tell how much more work that would be.

Then there will be the sex scenes that is still in point of view. You will be able to have sex with every character, doesn't matter if you're male or female and it even doesn't matter if you're a male and you're trying to do something with a straight guy. If you try hard enough you'll be able to get what you're interested in. It is hard to explain what this all means and how much more work it adds so let's say that you play as a male and you're in a scene with a guy then you play as a female and you're in a scene with the same guy. It means that there needs to be two different scenes, one for male and one for female.

I hope you can see the amount of work and what the artist have to do but again, only lines, no color so it is a little bit less work than it would.

I was thinking about adding transgender as a character option but that would add too much work. Normally it wouldn't but for this project I'm going to animate it differently, not in flash. I would explain further but there is just too much and I think it would confuse everyone.

But as a character in the game, yeah, I'm going to include at least one transgender. around 15-30% of all the females I think.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby Thaedael » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:41 am

For the record trunks, KatsuO_O has a good track record, he has done many 3d swf, many drawings, many animations, just no games yet. He wants to do something since my game is on hold because of IRL issues. [health, money, etc.]
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby Lex_Liven » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:45 am

Letter-by-letter typing is awfull. It force to read text very slow even for me. (My native language is russian)
Can you speed up it or use another text effect? Fade in/out, typing word-by-word for example.
I'm not sure my english is good, I'm russian. So I'll be please if you will correct me ;) Thank you for understanding.
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Re: Need A Flash Artist/My Project Idea

Postby trunks2585 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:09 am

Thaedael Wrote:For the record trunks, KatsuO_O has a good track record, he has done many 3d swf, many drawings, many animations, just no games yet. He wants to do something since my game is on hold because of IRL issues. [health, money, etc.]


Yeah, and that's why it blows my mind that he's not doing the artwork himself when we both have seen what he can do on his own.
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