Cute Peach: An Ashamed Princess (v0.0) XXX

[Nintendolo]

I didnt actually know about that whole mr m thing thanks for the update, i agree then with your bowser jr. Idea sounds solid and would be quite interesting to see, i like critiscm to be honest cant improve without it.

EDIT: one last suggestion about the model, adjust the nose as it looks so out of place atm and desnt fit the current design that well, when im on flash next i will brain storm a couple of nose designs so you can see some suggestions.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I agree with your changes. I like the model a lot as well, it's even better than Ivan's in some places.

Well, I really like her bigger lashes. We can see it better at a farther distance too.
I'll make an improvement to her soon, with a slimmer body. Just wait (Of course I'll save the Chubby Peach. I like this style too)

As you can see! This new guy is my replacement! Hes here to do everything I will not be able to do anymore. Please treat him kindly and make sure to feed him with inspiration everyday. I promise he'll do a great job and trust me he wont bite.

Hey stop that! Now! You're my assistant! One of the best!

EDIT: one last suggestion about the model, adjust the nose as it looks so out of place atm and desnt fit the current design that well, when im on flash next i will brain storm a couple of nose designs so you can see some suggestions.

Thanks, I really appreciate it!

Quiz, dont take this as 'NO!' but ... I still prefer this Mario (with the new Mario I did for MIM PUT). This cursed Mario is different in a way his head is tilted a bit, and his eyes a bit bigger and lower in height. And we can have more 'frightening' scenes



Then this guy below can be in the game (not the shadow mario! the 'tilted one'!) And this one below.


I would like to put Bowser Jr, thats for sure! And I also prefer the Mario parody (Mr.M) because, well...its a fake Mario 'more plausible to be seen' than the blue crystal/water Mario. Which is better? A flesh dick into Peach, or a crystal one?
I might not put paintings (like SMS). This can be for another game or expansion.

[QuizmasterBos]

Quiz, dont take this as 'NO!' but ... I still prefer this Mario (with the new Mario I did for MIM PUT). This cursed Mario is different in a way his head is tilted a bit, and his eyes a bit bigger and lower in height. And we can have more 'frightening' scenes

I think that's just a stance he takes and not an actual difference between the real Mario and this fake one.
You really gotta play some more Mario games, Ivan. You're basing soooo much of TTYD while there are so many other good and interesting Mario games to pick from.
I'm just trying to put some variety in the game.

I would like to put Bowser Jr, thats for sure! And I also prefer the Mario parody (Mr.M) because, well...its a fake Mario 'more plausible to be seen' than the blue crystal/water Mario. Which is better? A flesh dick into Peach, or a crystal one?
I might not put paintings (like SMS). This can be for another game or expansion.

It's interesting, that's for sure, but you can't base of a fan character. Specifically because of two reasons:
- People will appreciate the use of actual Mario characters from official games they play, or can play, not from some average joe with good photoshopping skills that made a character once.
- Fan characters can have any personality and even look, meaning that you don't know how the character should react.

I also love how you're talking about plausibility when you're comparing a purple Mario to a watery blue one; What's the difference?

Now, even though I said all that, placing ghosty man (not saying his real name, that is a spoiler) in the game would be technically better, as this allows Shadow Mario to make an appearance in MiM PUT. Remember that Asian and I came up with some ideas for him? Well, you could eventually place him in, but if he's in both, the games would be too similar.

So, if any of the aforementioned characters should be in and it can't be Bowser Jr. it should be ghosty man.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I think that's just a stance he takes and not an actual difference between the real Mario and this fake one. You really gotta play some more Mario games, Ivan. You're basing soooo much of TTYD while there are so many other good and interesting Mario games to pick from. I'm just trying to put some variety in the game.

Why not using Super Paper Mario and SMW? I will include Birdo on Cute Peach game too. See? No TTYD everywhere

It's interesting, that's for sure, but you can't base of a fan character. Specifically because of two reasons:
- People will appreciate the use of actual Mario characters from official games they play, or can play, not from some average joe with good photoshopping skills that made a character once.
- Fan characters can have any personality and even look, meaning that you don't know how the character should react.

You got a good point.

I also love how you're talking about plausibility when you're comparing a purple Mario to a watery blue one; What's the difference?

No no no, sorry, I've misleaded you. I said it should be a 'paper mario' (normal) and those tilted paper mario. NOT purple paper mario. In this game, nobody needs to be purple.

Now, even though I said all that, placing ghosty man (not saying his real name, that is a spoiler) in the game would be technically better, as this allows Shadow Mario to make an appearance in MiM PUT.

Yes, so we can use the 'tilted' Mario. Peach will think its her beloved Mario. Shadow Mario is too simplistic and bad to se been. Its the same problem of 'crystal mario' :/

Remember that Asian and I came up with some ideas for him? Well, you could eventually place him in, but if he's in both, the games would be too similar.

Yes its better to differentiate. But really, really, really, I want to make this game more close to TTYD (not tooo close, though). That's because Paper Peach are from which domain? Of Paper Mario, of course. So it makes sense. But Birdo, and other creatures can appear (for sure). So I can use the same scenes (of course, adapted ones, because Peach is lower in height now).

So, if any of the aforementioned characters should be in and it can't be Bowser Jr. it should be ghosty man.

Why not Bowser Jr? I think Bowser Jr suffit cute peach more than in MIM PUT. In MIM PUT, we have midget characters playing with Peach pussy, and huge monsters (koopalings) screwing her up. In Cute Peach, we can have more 'tender' enemies, with her size.

[QuizmasterBos]

I think that's just a stance he takes and not an actual difference between the real Mario and this fake one. You really gotta play some more Mario games, Ivan. You're basing soooo much of TTYD while there are so many other good and interesting Mario games to pick from. I'm just trying to put some variety in the game.

Why not using Super Paper Mario and SMW? I will include Birdo on Cute Peach game too. See? No TTYD everywhere

For a single game, that's a lot of influence it gets, doesn't it?

I also love how you're talking about plausibility when you're comparing a purple Mario to a watery blue one; What's the difference?

No no no, sorry, I've misleaded you. I said it should be a 'paper mario' (normal) and those tilted paper mario. NOT purple paper mario. In this game, nobody needs to be purple.

Aaah, I see what you mean. You want to use the same Mario style! But wasn't it clear already that Mario's look would resemble that of MIM PUT?

Now, even though I said all that, placing ghosty man (not saying his real name, that is a spoiler) in the game would be technically better, as this allows Shadow Mario to make an appearance in MiM PUT.

Yes, so we can use the 'tilted' Mario. Peach will think its her beloved Mario. Shadow Mario is too simplistic and bad to be seen. Its the same problem of 'crystal mario' :/

You mean it looks bad to the player? Well... yea, you're right about that. Not that it matters to Peach, it's already been proven that she falls for everything even slightly resembling Mario.

Remember that Asian and I came up with some ideas for him? Well, you could eventually place him in, but if he's in both, the games would be too similar.

Yes its better to differentiate. But really, really, really, I want to make this game more close to TTYD (not tooo close, though). That's because Paper Peach are from which domain? Of Paper Mario, of course. So it makes sense. But Birdo, and other creatures can appear (for sure). So I can use the same scenes (of course, adapted ones, because Peach is lower in height now).

There is a difference between using the PM style and actually using PM characters. By changing characters to look like paper (I guess) it becomes a whole 'nother story.

So, if any of the aforementioned characters should be in and it can't be Bowser Jr. it should be ghosty man.

Why not Bowser Jr? I think Bowser Jr suffit cute peach more than in MIM PUT. In MIM PUT, we have midget characters playing with Peach pussy, and huge monsters (koopalings) screwing her up. In Cute Peach, we can have more 'tender' enemies, with her size.

Huh? Didn't I say before that Jr. is very bold, rash and evil? How is that exactly tender? If anything Jr. would fall into both midget characters and screwing her up (if Jr. is still a kid, which he shouldn't). How old do you intend Jr. to be? And what would he look like? Like a teen version of Bowser, or an older looking Jr. but a bit taller?

[Ivan-Aedler]

Aaah, I see what you mean. You want to use the same Mario style! But wasn't it clear already that Mario's look would resemble that of MIM PUT?

Yes, 'Irish Mario', let's talk like this (He appears to be irish with the light brown hair and blue eyes) lol. So 'tilted cursed Mario' will be him, but with tilted head/eyes, and a open mouth, like he's tired.

You mean it looks bad to the player? Well... yea, you're right about that. Not that it matters to Peach, it's already been proven that she falls for everything even slightly resembling Mario.

Not only bad, but you know, we want to see the character. His eyes, body... so we can fantasize he and Peach better. Yes yes, she falls for everything. Even TEC! No matter why she gets kidnapped so easily.

There is a difference between using the PM style and actually using PM characters. By changing characters to look like paper (I guess) it becomes a whole 'nother story.

Yes, but remember that 'paper style' became non-sense when we want to see backside and frontside Peach. If they're paper, no way to make solid bodies.

Huh? Didn't I say before that Jr. is very bold, rash and evil? How is that exactly tender? If anything Jr. would fall into both midget characters and screwing her up (if Jr. is still a kid, which he shouldn't). How old do you intend Jr. to be? And what would he look like? Like a teen version of Bowser, or an older looking Jr. but a bit taller?

As Peach (and others) in this game are already grown up with young FACES, Bowser Jr also follows the principle. 18 or more. He does'nt have a 'yeti' (yeh-teh) body like Morton and others. He's a little chubby. I like that style. In MIM PUT, Morton and others can even be related as 25 years old adults (or more). In Cute Peach, if Bowser Jr maintains as 18 years old in this timeline, Bowser can be there too (more sense, as it will have 30 or more years old, like his actual appearance on TTYD). Then I can recreate Bowser Jr same style (young chubby body and face), and it will be clear that he's son of Bowser.

[QuizmasterBos]

There is a difference between using the PM style and actually using PM characters. By changing characters to look like paper (I guess) it becomes a whole 'nother story.

Yes, but remember that 'paper style' became non-sense when we want to see backside and frontside Peach. If they're paper, no way to make solid bodies.

I didn't mean make them of "paper", but I meant the style. Just wonder: What would "character" look like if he/she was in PM? That is what I am referring to.

Huh? Didn't I say before that Jr. is very bold, rash and evil? How is that exactly tender? If anything Jr. would fall into both midget characters and screwing her up (if Jr. is still a kid, which he shouldn't). How old do you intend Jr. to be? And what would he look like? Like a teen version of Bowser, or an older looking Jr. but a bit taller?

As Peach (and others) in this game are already grown up with young FACES, Bowser Jr also follows the principle. 18 or more. He does'nt have a 'yeti' (yeh-teh) body like Morton and others. He's a little chubby. I like that style. In MIM PUT, Morton and others can even be related as 25 years old adults (or more). In Cute Peach, if Bowser Jr maintains as 18 years old in this timeline, Bowser can be there too (more sense, as it will have 30 or more years old, like his actual appearance on TTYD). Then I can recreate Bowser Jr same style (young chubby body and face), and it will be clear that he's son of Bowser.

Makes sense to me.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I didn't mean make them of "paper", but I meant the style. Just wonder: What would "character" look like if he/she was in PM? That is what I am referring to.

All Right! Yes that's what I did with Asian (creating Clefts for example). Enemies will be made with only one pose (forward facing), but some of them can be made with backside or frontside pose, no problem (is just an added art). Its easy to do that with goombas, for example. Why do that? Well, we can make the goomba blink his eye, or make a griddy face. Remember I have more than 20 enemies already made with Asian (even Punio!) So its easy to bring them to Cute Peach in the future. And they will be depicted like Paper Mario series (they really look like as in PM).

[coolness32]

I actually think it would be good if you left out every enemy except the ones in Paper Mario games. I've only played Super Paper Mario but that game alone had two female enemies.

I was almost going to say all "characters", but that would leave out Rosalina and Daisy (she's not in the paper series is she?).

[Ivan-Aedler]

I actually think it would be good if you left out every enemy except the ones in Paper Mario games. I've only played Super Paper Mario but that game alone had two female enemies.

I intend to priorize PM enemies but for sure I can add goombas, for example (SMB1, SMB3, and PM series also have goombas). And 'gombarios' (those with green hat). For about shyguys, I may create bandits instead (to maintain PM universe). But I can add vines, for example (Peach will be able to climb it).

I was almost going to say all "characters", but that would leave out Rosalina and Daisy (she's not in the paper series is she?).

They're not, if I can recall. But I can make them (with the same Peach structure, maybe a bit taller for Daisy and slimmer for Rosalina).

[MPLDAM9919]

Is this going to be an RPG like TTYD or a platformer like MiM?

[Ivan-Aedler]

Is this going to be an RPG like TTYD or a platformer like MiM?

RPG like. You will be able to wander 'entering the screen' and 'left it', along with left and right. But with platform characteristics, that is, the camera will follow you where you go, and there will plenty of blocks.

[Nintendolo]

I was almost going to say all "characters", but that would leave out Rosalina and Daisy (she's not in the paper series is she?).

They're not, if I can recall. But I can make them (with the same Peach structure, maybe a bit taller for Daisy and slimmer for Rosalina).[/quote]

it wouldnt be too difficult to create like you said using the peach model as a base just either make the taller or thinner and swap out some parts for others, would be cool to see them have a sort of cameo appearance where you could see a sex scene with them and someone else like starring through a window or walking in etc...

Is this going to be an RPG like TTYD or a platformer like MiM?

RPG like. You will be able to wander 'entering the screen' and 'left it', along with left and right. But with platform characteristics, that is, the camera will follow you where you go, and there will plenty of blocks.

so from what i can tell from your reply its a side-scrolling rpg with platformer elements. does that sound about right ?

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just thought i would post an update on what i done on my mess around model may give you some ideas

[QuizmasterBos]

Is this going to be an RPG like TTYD or a platformer like MiM?

RPG like. You will be able to wander 'entering the screen' and 'left it', along with left and right. But with platform characteristics, that is, the camera will follow you where you go, and there will plenty of blocks.

so from what i can tell from your reply its a side-scrolling rpg with platformer elements. does that sound about right ?

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just thought i would post an update on what i done on my mess around model may give you some ideas

To my knowledge, Ivan wants to make this resemble Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door as much as possible.
So you will be able to move left and right, but also to and away from the screen. Jumping will also be possible.

Your Peach model looks pretty good, except for the eyes. The stark whiteness is really unsettling, but the main body itself looks really well. The illusion that Ivan's model seems to have (Peach leaning back with the dress on) doesn't seem to happen with your version.
I hope Ivan is taking notes.

[Nintendolo]

im still working on the eyes it took me 3 hours just to get the nose the way i liked it, ow okay sounds cool i loved thousand year door so will be quite interesting to see how ivan handles it within flash and to see how it all turns out .

Edit : i still cant figure out what it is that bugs me with ivans model there is something that doesnt look right and i cant put my finger on it :S but overall what he has done so far is excellent once you have created the base it will make it easier creating other character costumes etc..

My work is usually all using the line tool as i prefer redrawing each frame in animation, i find when using the pen tool although its quicker with animating it ends up making some animations look erm interesting lets say.. o and its easier to edit imo..

[Ivan-Aedler]

it wouldnt be too difficult to create like you said using the peach model as a base just either make the taller or thinner and swap out some parts for others, would be cool to see them have a sort of cameo appearance where you could see a sex scene with them and someone else like starring through a window or walking in etc...

Yes! I'll be thinking about that!

so from what i can tell from your reply its a side-scrolling rpg with platformer elements. does that sound about right ?

Yes, like Quiz said. 'Paper Mario 2' style.

just thought i would post an update on what i done on my mess around model may give you some ideas

Well done, Nintendolo! I like her new crown!! Nothing to say more, aside of:

1) I think her colors are a bit washed out.
2) Her eyes may need some shadowing.

I did an experiment. I've mixed our Peach models.

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My work is usually all using the line tool as i prefer redrawing each frame in animation, i find when using the pen tool although its quicker with animating it ends up making some animations look erm interesting lets say.. oh and its easier to edit imo..

Well, in flash we dont need to make new animations. We can use tweens with the already done body parts.

The illusion that Ivan's model seems to have (Peach leaning back with the dress on) doesn't seem to happen with your version. I hope Ivan is taking notes.

I am.

[QuizmasterBos]

I did an experience. I've mixed our Peach models.

Considering that you did this quickly in MS Paint, it's not half-bad actually. Except that dang face again. But the body seems pretty good. I hope Asian will come along and comment on this as well, I think he'll like it too.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I updated eyes placement above.

Considering that you did this quickly in MS Paint...

Oh dammit. You discovered my secret!

Except that dang face again. But the body seems pretty good. I hope Asian will come along and comment on this as well, I think he'll like it too.

We need more opinions, but really, I like my current Peach model, not because I made her, but because of her...erhm... gorgeous body and more hair But I will remove some fat, like Nintendolo said. Then I'll post here. And I can use more models, provided its the same dimensions or 'alike'. Body parts are compatible.

[Nintendolo]

my model is more of a experiment than anything like i said before i use it just to try out ideas i have and its basically my test subject but at least your taking on some of my advice on board, the issue i find with tweens it can morph some of the shapes in between good for a base but i like to add more of my own touch i think its more personal preference to be honest. great work so far really looking forward to this project

Edit : a lot of the colors i used were actually used in a official picture of peach i believe it was super princess peach but yeah still wip but thanks for your opinion got some more ideas i plan on trying yet

[Ivan-Aedler]

my model is more of a experiment than anything like i said before i use it just to try out ideas i have and its basically my test subject but at least your taking on some of my advice on board, the issue i find with tweens it can morph some of the shapes in between good for a base

Hey hey please stop!! Shapes DONT morph in 'classic tweening' and BONE tween. But when you use SHAPE tween ( Flash CS5/CS6), then it will morph.
But I envy people who create art frame by frame. Really! Thats because its possible to make 'perpective and 3d' animation without having to change body parts, because every frame is a new full picture. However, its not easy to adapt clothing (that is, a 'dressed' animation, a 'raccoon outfit animation' and a naked animation'.). You will have to make two new sets of animations.

Great work so far really looking forward to this project

Thank you really!! I only ask if I can use some of your art (like her crown) I really like it, good work!

Edit : a lot of the colors i used were actually used in a official picture of peach i believe it was super princess peach but yeah still wip but thanks for your opinion got some more ideas i plan on trying yet

I know, its because as we are in Flash domain, we can create a more vivid color game. You know, more appealing for the eye A more pink dress and a more beige/light tan skin is like we are really touching her.