Cute Peach: An Ashamed Princess (v0.0) XXX

[Ivan-Aedler]

The curvy lips look better as well, but I think you still got a ways to go.

Remember I want to make each part as simplistic as possible, to make the curve count low and to increase imagination (too much detail will not make our mind able to 'fake' some curves or to imagine her a bit different). Talking about curves, her entire clothing has less than 90 curves (total). Far less than 200~300 of MIM AE clothing.

But I want to improve and test more styles on her parts like mouth later, for sure.
Maybe an Eureka! moment can appear and the new art may be even better than the originals (again, I must not be so confident yet).

Cute Peach frontside and backside (nude): Click inside the image to enlarge.

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[QuizmasterBos]

The curvy lips look better as well, but I think you still got a ways to go.

Remember I want to make each part as simplistic as possible, to make the curve count low and to increase imagination (too much detail will not make our mind able to 'fake' some curves or to imagine her a bit different). Talking about curves, her entire clothing has less than 90 curves (total). Far less than 200~300 of MIM AE clothing.

But I want to improve and test more styles on her parts like mouth later, for sure.
Maybe an Eureka! moment can appear and the new art may be even better than the originals (again, I must not be so confident yet).

Peach backside (nude):

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Are you going for a non-symmetrical approach on purpose, or is this an oversight?
Her legs aren't equally long; make her right leg a tiny bit longer.

Another thing with her leg is that the "knee"part isn't connected properly to her bottom leg.
I hope this explains what I mean:

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Maybe in an attempt to make her legs thin, you got this weird missing part?
Not a game breaker, but I noticed this oddity.

For the rest I must say: GOOD JOB!

[Ivan-Aedler]

Are you going for a non-symmetrical approach on purpose, or is this an oversight?

Yes, a bit assymetrical due to her hair.
Ok, problem with her thighs, corrected above.
I dont want to create a new leg/thigh, that's why I would like to re-use objects. But if its still weird or 'too much noticed', I can make a new leg.

[QuizmasterBos]

Are you going for a non-symmetrical approach on purpose, or is this an oversight?

Yes, a bit assymetrical due to her hair.
Ok, problem with her thighs, corrected above.
I dont want to create a new leg/thigh, that's why I would like to re-use objects. But if its still weird or 'too much noticed', I can make a new leg.

The leg is fine now, in my opinion.
The feet frontside are stubby though, I think you will need to redraw that.( It needs to be bigger and maybe even longer) Do you have this with the backside too?

[Ivan-Aedler]

The feet frontside are stubby though, I think you will need to redraw that.( It needs to be bigger and maybe even longer) Do you have this with the backside too?

Well, we can regard this feet as a petit size. There are women with petit feet. Its not uncommon. But I've got your point. I will think about this later on.
Yes, the same foot style is already in backside mode (But I've only shown her with heels).

Current Peach against Paper Peach (comparison) in the first post.

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[coolness32]

The feet frontside are stubby though, I think you will need to redraw that.( It needs to be bigger and maybe even longer) Do you have this with the backside too?

Well, we can regard this feet as a petit size. There are women with petit feet. Its not uncommon. But I've got your point. I will think about this later on.
Yes, the same foot style is already in backside mode (But I've only shown her with heels).

Current Peach against Paper Peach (comparison) in the first post.

She's so cute!

Are you going to not have the emphasis on the lines? The thicker Dark lines make her look more papery, are you going to do that or no? It's completely just out of curiosity because I think your Peach looks good the way she is. You could always make one for comparison, assuming of course you don't already have one.

It's just a minor thing I see but on the (side) version, the right side of her crown doesn't spike up like it should. (it should right?) Oh and since I was on the subject of the thicker lines, if you could make her with the pure black eyes also for comparison, I can't remember if you are trying to not have those eyes or if it's still in the air about which way to go with the style.

[AsianP3rsuas10n]

I knew something looked wrong >_> Ivan move her head a little more forward. Her head isnt aligned with her body. It kinda looks like she doesnt have neck...

I'm not blind right?

[QuizmasterBos]

I knew something looked wrong >_> Ivan move her head a little more forward. Her head isnt aligned with her body. It kinda looks like she doesnt have neck...

I'm not blind right?

Not blind, more like confused. Her head isn't aligned with her body, I just noticed that as well, but her head is too much towards the back.
Her arms are also put a little too much towards the back, making it seem like Peach is arching backwards.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Cute Peach (arch corrected), black eyes:

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Are you going to not have the emphasis on the lines? The thicker Dark lines make her look more papery, are you going to do that or no?

I really would like to make her as with a solid body, as said on page 1. That's because:

1) Paper Mario and Peach were strange concepts (being thin as paper, no perspective poses are possible, neither backside ones). How could you see a scene from her back? You will see a thin paper. The only reason I see from being a paper is to ease development. Paper Mario may have more than 40 enemies/friends style, in a 3d environment, so being a paper, only 1 pose for them was required. And interesting actions like 'flip' (look left and right) are explanable. I can do that for enemies, but why not making a solid body for important characters?

However. Its possible to make POWERUPS to let them act as paper (like curses).

2) I can put a more smooth outline. When using a black outline, she becomes less 3d, and more limited in color. Thicker the outline, worse the effect. But if its color disguise her appearance on some backgrounds, I can put a tad of dark color in her outline, But please, not black.
3) Black (and thick) outlines also shows some imperfections more. I need to make perfect outlines , and this translates one thing: more curves/points (more complexity!)

It's just a minor thing I see but on the (side) version, the right side of her crown doesn't spike up like it should.

Ok I will adjust that.

If you could make her with the pure black eyes also for comparison

Ok, I will.

Not blind, more like confused. Her head isn't aligned with her body, I just noticed that as well, but her head is too much towards the back.
Her arms are also put a little too much towards the back, making it seem like Peach is arching backwards.

Looking closely, she's arching backwards just a little. I dont think its a really bad thing but I will improve it. (EDIT: DONE above).

[QuizmasterBos]

Cute Peach (arch corrected), black eyes:

Not blind, more like confused. Her head isn't aligned with her body, I just noticed that as well, but her head is too much towards the back.
Her arms are also put a little too much towards the back, making it seem like Peach is arching backwards.

Looking closely, she's arching backwards just a little. I dont think its a really bad thing but I will improve it. (EDIT: DONE above).

I think its a lot better, but it still seems like her head and neck are placed just a little bit too much backwards. However, this can also be because of the clothes.
So, I'm going to have to ask Peach to take her clothes off (all of it).

I also think you shouldn't go with the black eyes. They don't look as cute this way. Probably because of the bigger model. Go with the normal eyes, or are you thinking of giving people the option to switch?

[Ivan-Aedler]

I think its a lot better, but it still seems like her head and neck are placed just a little bit too much backwards. However, this can also be because of the clothes.
So, I'm going to have to ask Peach to take her clothes off (all of it).

Ok! (click to enlarge)

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I also think you shouldn't go with the black eyes. They don't look as cute this way. Probably because of the bigger model. Go with the normal eyes, or are you thinking of giving people the option to switch?

I also prefer the new eyes, but ...hmm yes, I can put an option to switch eyes. So it will give a more paper peach appearance.

[QuizmasterBos]

I think its a lot better, but it still seems like her head and neck are placed just a little bit too much backwards. However, this can also be because of the clothes.
So, I'm going to have to ask Peach to take her clothes off (all of it).

Ok! (click to enlarge)

cute peach nude side.jpg

I also think you shouldn't go with the black eyes. They don't look as cute this way. Probably because of the bigger model. Go with the normal eyes, or are you thinking of giving people the option to switch?

I also prefer the new eyes, but ...hmm yes, I can put an option to switch eyes. So it will give a more paper peach appearance.

Hmmm, the neck looks fine now. However, I noticed she doesn't have feet that are the same. The ball on her left foot is flat, while the other is nice and round.
But you're doing great, really.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Hmmm, the neck looks fine now. However, I noticed she doesn't have feet that are the same.

I will tilt her vest and collar a bit, so she will be better when clothed. (updated above)

As for her feet, I've used the MIM AE base, created by Yuri. They're nice, but may need improvement (or not). I really dont want to play with her foot because I dont know how to make better ones :/
Now I want to make the last face graphic: SIDE facing.

I'm testing a bigger lash to her. Are they better?

[QuizmasterBos]

Hmmm, the neck looks fine now. However, I noticed she doesn't have feet that are the same.

I will tilt her vest and collar a bit, so she will be better when clothed. (updated above)

As for her feet, I've used the MIM AE base, created by Yuri. They're nice, but may need improvement (or not). I really dont want to play with her foot because I dont know how to make better ones :/
Now I want to make the last face graphic: SIDE facing.

I'm testing a bigger lash to her. Are they better?

cute peach lashes.jpg

I never really looked THAT well to yuri's feet graphics, so I don't know if this is because of rescaling them. To solve such a problem, you could decide to give Peach heels at all times. Come to think of it, you should do that with PUT as well. Since Peach's feet are set differently in heels than without, removing the heels means you need to redraw the feet so they hit the ground well. This definitely needs to happen with PUT.

About the lashes, I think the other ones were cuter. Now they're getting too long.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I never really looked THAT well to yuri's feet graphics, so I don't know if this is because of rescaling them. To solve such a problem, you could decide to give Peach heels at all times. Come to think of it, you should do that with PUT as well. Since Peach's feet are set differently in heels than without, removing the heels means you need to redraw the feet so they hit the ground well. This definitely needs to happen with PUT.

I really dont care if Peach walks like on tiptoes (or almost like). The fact is that her being stark naked can be enticing for People who loves that (the way she was born). If I put a 'glued' heels, the player may ask to remove it later in the game. But yes, I can improve her feet graphics in a later stage (mostly her left one).

About the lashes, I think the other ones were cuter. Now they're getting too long.

Remember that longer lashes give more expression to her. And dont forget I will animate her lashes (when shes stopped with eyes open, and whe she closes them).

[QuizmasterBos]

I never really looked THAT well to yuri's feet graphics, so I don't know if this is because of rescaling them. To solve such a problem, you could decide to give Peach heels at all times. Come to think of it, you should do that with PUT as well. Since Peach's feet are set differently in heels than without, removing the heels means you need to redraw the feet so they hit the ground well. This definitely needs to happen with PUT.

I really dont care if Peach walks like on tiptoes (or almost like). The fact is that her being stark naked can be enticing for People who loves that (the way she was born). If I put a 'glued' heels, the player may ask to remove it later in the game. But yes, I can improve her feet graphics in a later stage (mostly her left one).

Oh wait! I forgot about the eventual foot job scenes. Peach would need to kick off her shoes.

But... now that I think about it more, her heels could still come off during scenes. I don't think people will ask you to remove the heels from Peach.
Naked girls with heels is for almost everyone more appealing than without heels and the weird look overrides the small number of people that would want the heels off, don't you think?

About the lashes, I think the other ones were cuter. Now they're getting too long.

Remember that longer lashes give more expression to her. And dont forget I will animate her lashes (when shes stopped with eyes open, and whe she closes them).

Doesn't take away the fact that the other, already long, lashes look better to me.

[Ivan-Aedler]

But... now that I think about it more, her heels could still come off during scenes. I don't think people will ask you to remove the heels from Peach.
Naked girls with heels is for almost everyone more appealing than without heels and the weird look overrides the small number of people that would want the heels off, don't you think?

I'm the one who likes to see her stark naked But I promiss, I'll improve her feet. Anyway, it will be possible to add an option (heels ON/OFF), but not like 'clothing shredding' (that is, Peach will not lose the heels when harmed). Only dress parts. And I may create a inner bra and panties for her.

Doesn't take away the fact that the other, already long, lashes look better to me.

Ok, a new comparison.

[QuizmasterBos]

Doesn't take away the fact that the other, already long, lashes look better to me.

Ok, a new comparison.

Right one, definitely the right one.

[AsianP3rsuas10n]

I think u should make that blue orb on her chest smaller. And male her thighs a bit more skinny. Once I get on a computer I'll show you why I think they should be fixed.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I think u should make that blue orb on her chest smaller. And male her thighs a bit more skinny. Once I get on a computer I'll show you why I think they should be fixed.

I like the bigger orb because it gives more expression, a 'big cold orb whe wears'. Hmm I've seen the original Peach and yes, the blue one could be a bit smaller.
As for a thinner thigh, Ok go ahead if you can. I like a more chubbier thighs. More flesh, you know. And it's compatible to her size. But let's compare later.

Hmmm I may make this orb as an option to be on or off, instead of going away with the vest.