Starting fresh...

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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Thaedael » Mon May 02, 2011 10:40 pm

While Kat is good at making models and animating, I like to think I am pretty good at coloring artwork. I also like making palettes as needed for character sheets, so if you ever need any coloring help let me know. This is not to look down on your own art skill however since I know you draw really well ^^.

Kat and I are also available on AIM and/or MSN (msn for me at least) if you ever need someone to brainstorm with or just bounce ideas off of. Good luck with your project and I wish you the best of luck.

On a side note I finished my little pixel art of my boat for the game I am making. If you want me to upload it for inspiration just let me know!
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Bussa » Mon May 02, 2011 11:06 pm

Thanks Kat, I think I'll just keep bouncing ideas around in here with your guys help.

And Thaedael, if your good at coloring would you mind showing me how good you are? I have my concept character all broken into individual movable parts (the front facing model). So if you have photoshop, which I'm assuming you do or you have something similar to do the job, would you mind taking a look at it and possibly giving me a rough color sheme, maybe with a bit a shading and such? I just wanna see your process and such...if your as good as you say you are ;) Use Zeus's color scheme if you can't think of your own.

Zeus Kabob Wrote:i was going to give you concept art, but I realized that it would actually detract from you making a good model. =(
Okay, here goes:
a vixen with a medium length tail (half to 2/3rds of Krystal's length, if that) which is mixed orange and a light red/deep red-orange.
She has hazel and green eyes and a narrow, highly effeminate face.
Her body is curvy, with large breasts (DD or so) and an hourglass waist.
Her height is about 5' 9".
She is moderately shy, but she has a wild side that she tries to hide from others.
Her body fur is long, layered, and mainly orange, but her fur on the back of her head, going down to her pelvis, on her forearms and her chest are highlighted red.
If this sounds good, go ahead and make it.



Here: (I know it's no where near being complete, artistically, or even as line art, and she still needs a tail ha, so no making fun of the "unfinished-ness" lol)

(also...should I make her boobs bigger? or? Idk cuz she's still just a concept)
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Bussa » Mon May 02, 2011 11:08 pm

ok wow I just realized how bad that looks and how hard its going to be for you to color, so let me change a few things and then you can mess with it, hold on, I'll repost a new one in a bit.
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Thaedael » Mon May 02, 2011 11:17 pm

I am actually new at coloring furries, only having colored three to this point. You can see the work done so far here;
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1240
Those are drawn by kat (he likes thick lines as you can see, but the coloring is mine)

I have four major coloring programs I rotate between depending on my mood;'
Adobe Photoshop CS5
Adobe Illustrator
Paint.net
Sai Painting Tool

Once again I like to think I am good, I don't know if I am so I will let you just look at the work I have done and gauge it for yourself ^^. As for this piece, will you ink it or should I start the process now. Do you want it to be done in sections like a flash model, or do you want it to just be colored in. Are there any special fur patterns you want or should I just improvise with what I think looks good? I will start the long process of doing a line art of the sketch you did, and from there I will color. It will take between 55 minutes and 120 minutes to get the line art done depending on what kind of style I go for, and from there coloring should take between 60 minutes and 280 minutes.

Edit: also I forgot to ask since artists are picky; do you want black lines, or dark lines of the piece it is surrounding?
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Bussa » Mon May 02, 2011 11:23 pm

ok heres one that should be a little bit easier to color, I just removed a lot of the extra lines that hold her together and let me know where things start and end. Can't wait to see what you come up with ;)
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Bussa » Mon May 02, 2011 11:29 pm

ah I see, I just looked at your coloring jobs on those other ones...and wow, how do you get it so...textured and furry looking, the hair is...amazing. Um, as for your questions, I just wanna see what you'd come up with for this character, you don't have to do all of her, just like a bust so I can get an idea of what your colors might look like on my character, I'm just curious ;)
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Thaedael » Tue May 03, 2011 12:03 am

I use photoshop these days since I enjoy using a tablet. There are functions that allow you to design your own brushes, and I have a few I have developed for myself, particularly for eyes and facial features, and there are some I have aquired over the years. So I develop brushes and toy around with settings of opacity and colors, and use the blending tool, I have a lot of background in pixel art so I use my knowledge of tricking the eye to get what I want to look right! I am getting Kat to add some features to the character then I will start soon. Probably won't be up until tomorrow night! However if you just want a palette I can also just do a couple quick colorings but it wont be as good and detailed!
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby ByHisBillowingBeard » Tue May 03, 2011 1:59 am

The body is obviously sketchy but the face and head are really, really good o.O
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby ronpepper » Tue May 03, 2011 2:31 am

Those hips got me sayin' HELL YEAH!
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby SexyFoxTime » Tue May 03, 2011 2:48 am

As for art i'm no good at it, but if thats just a quick sketch, i'll go to the store, buy a notebook, and write I CAN'T DRAW, on every single page xD,
Girls give it up for the summer time, because boys are on the beach looking good and i'm feeling fine, im on a misson to make you mine, just put the music on give it up for the summer time

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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby ronpepper » Tue May 03, 2011 4:19 am

Okay.. when I saw this outline, I just had to play with it a little. I was getting too sleepy to study anyway, needed time to center myself.. :mrgreen:

I really do like this figure, although I didn't agree with every line, I also thought the hips were just absolutely smashing.
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Thaedael » Tue May 03, 2011 4:50 am

Ron Pepper totally beat me to it, almost done the lineart ^^
Edit: Going to color it now, since RP nailed the red perfectly I will try another color for fun. Just takes someone as talented as RP to make me appreciate art more :P.

Final Edit:
I put a lot more work into this than I had intended. I don't know if I like it and I wasn't sure if I wanted to post it but I said I would so here it is;

BussaConceptArtColor(resize).png


Not really much to say about this. I took the image that Bussa made, made a clean line art out of it by using a 2px pen tool and went over the lines bussa had drawn (how do you make your lines so fine, what program do you use because they are elegant). After that I spent about 34 minutes with katsu brainstorming color ideas, originally I had this purple and beige but then it kept coming out like rattata, and I sure as hell didn't want that. Eventually I got the palette I ended up with. He also drew me some feet.

Started with the darkest colors, had some jagged lines where the fur transitioned, which in retrospect should have been the last step since they lost a lot of definition as time went on, and then just progressively used lighter colors with my paintbrush. The eyes took a little time but they turned out EXACTLY how I wanted them so no complaints there.

I don't like how it came out however so I will have to try harder the next time. I think RP nailed it better since he got the shading exactly where it needs to be, and has smooth shading which lends itself better to flash than what I did. Either way it was a pleasure to color your work Bussa.

Final Edit 2:
Fine fine fine, I'll do what Ron Pepper did, of course it looks better because RP understands fur patterns ^^';;;

BussaConceptArtColorRevisited.png


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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby ronpepper » Tue May 03, 2011 1:35 pm

@Thaedael /facepalm Okay, okay, thank you, and stop with all the effusive praise. Your coloring stands well on its own and clearly is the better one. Nice eyes btw I didn't even bother to do mine. Your original color scheme looked better besides, I think you just got a little jealous because of my bold, over saturated orange. What can I say, blondes are more fun.
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby MrBear » Tue May 03, 2011 2:42 pm

Love both of them, but Thaedeal did a better job. For some reason the toes seem to...stand out for some reason. But still it looks great
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby ByHisBillowingBeard » Tue May 03, 2011 3:58 pm

The right wrist looks broken, needs smoothing a bit.

Great face Thaed and I'm preferring the second fur pattern. The ears actually stand out a lot which I find different but very cool although perhaps not such a vibrant pink is needed.
Prefer the redhead look :p
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby SexyFoxTime » Tue May 03, 2011 4:45 pm

Here's what i think, "Damnnnnnnnn"
Girls give it up for the summer time, because boys are on the beach looking good and i'm feeling fine, im on a misson to make you mine, just put the music on give it up for the summer time

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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby realrose » Tue May 03, 2011 7:02 pm

I got to say it turning out to look really nice , ill keep watching as i want to see what its going to turn out like in the end
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Bussa » Wed May 04, 2011 12:59 am

Haha, thanks for the compliments ;)

@ ron: love that color scheme! blondes do it better! ;) (And yes, I know, don't you love her hips! I'm trying to put my characters in more dynamic poses that really show them off and not just have them standing there like I had in previous attempts.) [More character!] :)

@ Thae: I absolutely love the second one! The reference I used for her head was supposed to be an otter or something, so those colors fit perfectly! I love how it looks like actual skin tight fur! And I make my lines using the line tool on 1px, along with a bitch-ton of the eraser in photoshop, I figured I'd start off as small as I could on these new characters so I can add as much detail as I need to. That's why everything starts out really boxy, cuz it's all lines ha.

Oh and thanks Kat for making those feet for me! I usually do human feet and not furry ones, but I think she looks ok with them :) I still need to fiddle with her legs tho, they just dont seem set right.

SexyFoxTime, your just a silly goose, aren't you? ;)

I'll post updated pics when I have a flat color scheme, and learn to make furry colors like Thae... can I be your apprentice or something? lol :roll:
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby Thaedael » Wed May 04, 2011 2:21 am

I am not doing anything special I will send you the resources I use, and someone as talented as you will not only grasp it easily, but even surpass what has been done :).
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Re: Starting fresh...

Postby SexyFoxTime » Wed May 04, 2011 2:38 am

Silly goose!? Why madam i have no idea what you are saying -HEY SFT!, Were Do You Want The Picture Of A Giant PacMan Sign?-...SHUTUP! (Ahem) like i was saying.. Noo...
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