Erotic asphyxiation + Exposed Tongues

[Thundranex]

Before I start off discussing my topic I'd like to mention that I am a fresh forum member and this is my first post. I'd also like to compliment all the LoK team on THE most immersive, truly captivating, and sexy animated furry material I have ever come across. You're style is impeccable and how you've executed things so far is amazing. Not one of your scenes is ever boring, in fact half the time I find it very hard to decide which scenes I want to cast out my "knuckle-children" to. and that's saying something.

But back to topic, I was browsing through the creators section and playing yet another run through of LoK version .2 when I decided to rate what I though was the best (aka the most fap-tacular) animation scene (boss battles aside) within the game. At first it was a clean cut tie between the "Ass Rape" scene near the crash site and the "Drench" scene in the caves. The "Drench" scene was so good, totally saucy with the subtle moaning and Krystal's facial expressions, and I almost wanted it to win but the "Ass Rape" scene was just sexier every time for me and I just couldn't figure out why!?! because personally I'm not too fond of anal scenes. But then it hit me, the sounds played a big part but it was how Krystal's tongue was draped out along her chin. Putting aside the fact that having her tongue draped out was just hot in general, it gave a sense of "realism" dare I say, Krystal being a furry/animal would naturally have her mouth gaping open with her tongue draped out like that during intercourse.
Like, when two dogs (foxes, wolves etc) go at it, they have their mouths open, tongues dangling all over the place and are panting like crazy. So you guys really hit the nail on the head with that one, the draped out tongue was a really good embodiment agent whether it was intended that way or not.
It made the game that little bit more immersive by giving the illusion that Krystal really is an animal going at it, as opposed to just a furry animation mimicking human sexual scenarios. Anyway enough on that point, to tie it all up, more exposed tongues dangling about the place and maybe an erotic heavy-panting WAV file or two would make a great addition to some upcoming scenes.

Lemme know what ya's think -

-Thundranex-

[haloman]

Nice little review. I personaly liked the ass rape, chair blow, and the table fuck to be the most "fap-tacular"

[Thundranex]

Sorry about separating my posts but I didn't realize that comments need to be approved by a moderator. I just assumed I'd be able to comment again straight away so yeah sorry again for having them separate but moving on:

I briefly mentioned in another post on the "Morality System (RE: Speaking Krystal)" topic under "Discussions" about featuring some scenes in Legend of Krystal with elements of erotic asphyxiation. You can view what exactly was suggested in the post by following this link (viewtopic.php?f=6&t=192&start=60), and look in the (P.s. ) part of what I have posted there.

But to elaborate on it a little further basically before I even registered as a member for the site ( which was only recently) I was browsing through every page in the creative corner and I booked market the most active topic posts and topic post which I personally found interesting.
There were many that I found really interesting but here are the ones that relate to this topic in particular:

1. Was the post by Playshapes himself where he posted a .fla file of the "Ass Rape" animation which is where the exposed tongue of Krystal really caught my eye and really got me thinking that the dangling tongue is something that we definitely need to see more of, I felt that it really emphasized the fact that Krystal is part animal, along with it being very arousing at the same time (as mentioned above).

(And these two: especially in relation to Erotic asphyxiation)

1. Was Kalypso's take on Final Fellatio starring Krystal and how many fans loved how she lost her breath if she was forced to deep throat for too long.

and 2. a topic post in the creative corner called "Multiple Positions", which had featured a file with animations of Krystal and a Scale going at it in 3 different positions (Tits, Ass, and Blow-Job), and within the constructive criticisms there was a comment that the "Choke" option within the "Blow-Job" action should have more sound, maybe a gasp or some gagging.

Which got me thinking that obviously I'm not the only person who thinks the Idea of some choking is pretty hot. So I looked it up, and sure enough erotic asphyxiation/choking to reach a bigger climax is a widely practiced fetish.

Well, in some cases its considered a disorder because the person practicing it needs sexual stimulation that's not considered the normal or more often than not "within the extremes".

Here's some more information on it:
- "Erotic asphyxiation is the intentional restriction of oxygen to the brain for sexual arousal. It is also called asphyxiophilia, autoerotic asphyxia, hypoxyphilia, or breath control play. Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper." -

And!!! the great news is, regardless of how choking a woman during sex may feel like its linked to rape or violence towards women in your mind, your feelings are misplaced, because "Erotic asphyxiation" is in no way associated with rape or domestic violence in any way and is regarded worldwide as a sexual fetish or at the very worst a psychiatric disorder.
So I know how you guys at LoK are leaning towards having the game convey a reluctant consent towards sexual acts from Krystal as opposed to out and out rape and I think this is a perfect way to make some rough scenes without it leaning towards rape or violence towards women in any way.

I would personally love to see it in the upcoming release and I feel that it would be the perfect way to implement some of Krystal's massive climaxes.
AND!!! if the Morality system gets the go ahead, choking herself to reach an even bigger climax, is something that a "Slutty Krystal" would definitely do.

Anyway Lemme know what ya's think-

-Thundranex-

[trunks2585]

Kal didn't make final felleto, I'm not sure who did. personally asphyxiation does nothing for me, but the tongue hanging out from pleasure does.

[Ariel]

I agree with you on which two scenes are the best, and I also agree with you that to me personally erotic asphyxiation is extremely hot. However I'm used to the fact that by now not as many other people seem to think so, so I almost never bring it up.

If it were to be included I imagine it would be like the other more specific fetishes that they would prefer to be included as fan content rather than part of the actual game.

However if it were included in the game, at least two of us would appreciate it

[Thundranex]

@Haloman

Thank you very much Haloman, personally I think every scene is amazing, animations are so crisp and smooth, well that's my opinion anyway, the work of the guys on the LoK team actually really makes me want to adapt my current artistry and games design skills to be able to achieve even some of what they can, they've like fueled my passion for furry beyond belief. At first the odd Hentai would do and I used to make regular trips to H-fap.org but ever since LoK. vo.2 all I care about(or all that floats my boat) is furrys (with the exception of the "Taimanin Asagi" hentai series).
I just hope to God they know how great the work they do makes people feel. They should be really proud of themselves, sure it may be frowned upon or considered something to be ashamed of (which I whole-heartedly disagree with) by the nay-sayers or speculators, but sure, take games like Grand Theft Auto, they feature some of the most controversial elements in the world, do you think they ever get ashamed? I think not. Hentai and Furry's is a great artistic medium, a way of expression, I personally think its amazing.
There's something really mystical and magical about a crazy cartoon sex scene like ones Hentai or Furry that just far out-ways the value of your regular pornographic material. Sometimes regular porn hits too close to home, like if your depressed your brain might fool you when you're watching a big muscly man nail a gorgeous curvy chick in a real porn into thinking "Crap ......if I want a girl like that....I probably have to look like him dont I?.....life sucks..." BUT!!! you watch Mario go to town on Peach's fun-buns and your mind thinks "Jesus, If I just stick on a big red hat with an M on it and buy a fake mustache, I'm already be half-way there!!!...SWEET!!!" hehehe!!!

But wow I'm going off on a complete tangent, what do you think about my asphyxiation idea!?! lol

-Thundranex-

[Nightmenace]

am i the only one who wasnt turned on by the tongue on the ass rape scene? it looks downright weird to me lol

[LiKrySo412]

The toungue was weird (to me), but the scene is really good.

[Thundranex]

@Trunks

Damn, well that's a surprise!!! I was certain he played some part in that final fellatio style game with Krystal and the scale, thanks for the info all the same though.
And awhhhhh man you really dont like the idea of asphyxiation at all!?! Damn, ( </3 hehehe lol), I fricking love the thought of some choking, and by God the tongue thing is so hot. I'd love to see some more.

On a side note, this topic feels like a ghost town in comparison to some others. I think I better get up some concept art of some exposed tongue and asphyxiation action on this thread to spice things up a bit, maybe get some more comments flowin in.
Which brings me to my next question:
Could you do me a favor Trunks!?! I'd be seriously grateful. Its nothing big, I was just wondering that considering I'm gonna try get some art up and maybe a storyboard or two and I have relatively no experience with drawing Furry characters, is there any books in particular that would be good to look at for this!?! or any websites that would be good for Furry artwork!?! maybe even if you could toss an old concept art for Krystal in LoK v o.2 my way for some good reference material through e-mail or over the forum I'd be seriously ecstatic and really grateful. And maybe once I get the ball rolling I'd really appreciate if you could critique me along the way. Anyway let me know dude, thanks a million.

-Thundranex-

[Thundranex]

@Ariel
Yeah I totally think that those two scenes and erotic asphyxiation are incredibly hot, I would've thought a lot more people would be into it too, I love to know whether it just does absolutely nothing for them or whether its too rough, and on a side note I'd love to see some bondage or something.

And Oh yeah I think I remember reading in one of the articles that the guys on the LoK team are going to implement some game filters so you can play just the straight up game and then switch the filter to have all the cool crazy fetishes on. I think it'll be cool and crazy for me!!! hehehe.

And yeah I still find it a bit of a downer how so few like the asphyxiation so far, we're totally in the minority, BUT!!! If it does make the actually game in any way (whether in the real deal or just as fan content) I'm still gonna be like... "Oh...mah...GAW!!!" Ahahahahaha!!!

-Thundranex-

[ultimatedeathgod]

maybe its just me, but i dont find asphyxiation erotic... i find it completely and utterly terrifying.

[Thundranex]

But there is a big difference between your straight up asphyxiation and erotic asphyxiation!?!

[trunks2585]

How is there a difference? You're still choking someone, it's just are you doing it with or without fucking them.

[Thundranex]

Well for one erotic asphyxiation isn't really choking so much as applying a small amount of pressure to the airways occasionally so that the small loss of oxygen to the brain puts the mind in a giddy state which can lead to large leaps in the levels sexual pleasure. Its far from strangulation and is usually done by the person getting fucked themselves, or is done by another who they trust in the bedroom, and even still they might assist in applying pressure. its actually not really choking in any way, the people who participate can always breath in and out, its just enough pressure so that the breathing might be a bit strained and this act is usually only performed while approaching climax ("When the brain is deprived of oxygen, it induces a lucid, semi-hallucinogenic state called hypoxia. Combined with orgasm, the rush is said to be no less powerful than cocaine, and highly addictive".). You see during the act of sexual intercourse your heart will be racing and pumping lots of oxygen rich blood very quickly around the body, so even tiny sudden amounts of pressure around the airways can create this state of hypoxia. Its far from choking.

BUT!!! On the other hand I totally respect how the though of choking someone (which is not what erotic asphyxiation is) during sex could be considered not a sexy thought in the slightest, especially if you have phobias or bad past experiences. Just know that they are two totally different thing. Although, within saying that, I will admit that during my research I was a bit frightened when reading a study taken in 1995, that in the United States alone, auto-erotic asphyxia was the cause of between 250 to 1000 deaths per year. People who went too far by trying to hang themselves a little on their own while masturbating etc. Its quite sad really, but I was cheered right up (kinda, It just gave me a few laughs when I pictured it in my head) by reading the next part

("Historically, the practice of autoerotic asphyxiation has been documented since the early 17th century. It was first used as a treatment for erectile dysfunction. The idea for this most likely came from subjects who were executed by hanging. Observers at public hangings noted male victims developed an erection, sometimes remaining after death (death erection), and occasionally ejaculated when being hanged.")

-----"DEATH-ERECTION!!!"-----( insert spooky lightning sound-effects here.), lol. hehehe.

-Thundranex-

[trunks2585]

Yeah I was going to mention the death bit but you already found out about that. There's even kids that play 'the choking game' to get a 'natural high' and often kill themselves, even southpark made fun of it, (take a wild guess who it was that accidentally strangled themselves while trying to get the 'best orgasim ever') so I'm sure you can see how to me, it's still choking, just not as violent or with the intent to make someone pass out. This is sort of how people can consider rape and reluctance the same thing and makes what krystal's doing in this game no better, no matter how you look at it.

[toddymon]

yeah. i dotn like the idea. its linked to closely to death in my mine. i dont like choking people and im not really into hurting them either. teh tongue sticking out is sexy. but i think ill do without cutting off the oxygen for people.

[Thundranex]

@Trunks
Oh yeah!!! That was the episode where Kenny hears about it and gets in a batman costume and does it!!! hehehe. But humor aside I have to say that I'm beginning to feel the same as you guys. Like, after reading how many people die from it I was actually sad, and I'm a pretty light-hearted guy.

(@everyone)
So I'd like to take this opportunity to say I'm sorry if it seems like I'm disregarding what you guys have to say, I totally didn't intend it seem like that, I guess its because when I think about rough sex (which is what I find really sexy and not actually asphyxiation in particular) I kinda associate it with some choking, I just got so engrossed in my idea and how badly I wanted it as a feature that I never really looked at the serious side until now. So yeah sorry guys.

Also, what Ultimatedeathgod posted pretty much settles the argument completely. He said that "he doesn't find asphyxiation hot....in fact he finds it completely and utterly terrifying.", having a player come away terrified or traumatized from a game that's intended to be sexy is definitely not something that you'd want, and even running the slight risk of that happening means asphyxiation should not be featured in the game at all. So a big thank you to Ultimatedeathgod for that post, it really helped out and made me see things from a different perspective along with all the recent posts. I still find rough sex and some light choking during sex really hot, but I certainly understand where you guys are coming from alot more right now.

So yeah that's it settled for me, asphyxiation is a BIG no no and exposed tongues from pleasure is a massive yes but needs work cos some people found the way it was done a bit weird. So yeah I hope nobody got offended or upset from the contents of this typically (especially in relation to the asphyxiation) or felt like I disregarded their opinions and if so I'm truly sorry. And besides, at the end of the day, this was a discussion and we discussed it. I'm personally very glad that we addressed some of the things that were addressed here and I felt all in all that every part of this topic that was spoken about was very constructive. but nevertheless, I'm personally going to be wrapping things up here and starting a brand new discussion/creative corner topic dedicated exclusively to the matter of exposed tongues. I'll most likely be putting pen to paper this time around and posting up some sexy hand drawn pics of my own straight off the bat. So keep an eye out for a topic called "Stick your Tongue out!!!" in either the discussions section or the creative corner.

Thanks again to everyone who got involved on this thread -

-Thundranex-

[Thaedael]

Not a fan of asphyxiation at all, in fact I am very turned off by it, and same with the exposed tongues. However to actually contribute to this, when everyone was referring to the Final Fellatio flash, it is essentially a cross between erotic asphyxiation and deepthroat gagging, which many of you may find as a turn on. So maybe to promote further discourse the idea of deepthroat gagging should be examined?

(Once again I don't care for deepthroat gagging but for the sake of promoting further discussion might as well bring it up.)