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Danteftw Wrote:I completly agree with both of you and if i can since i'm a new guy here it would be really nice if people didn't post any links to screamers. It really isn't fun if you're browsing the forums and find something that says " really cool whatnot " and you click it while holding a cup of coffee for example. By the way the changes are awesome that Renara made and now i can run any of the flash games even on my windows xp

Sierra Lee Wrote:How many posts do you need to be able to send PMs? I was hoping to get to the number without randomly interjecting my opinion in a bunch of threads, but it looks like I'm not there yet.

riothawk Wrote:due to the need for ten posts to get that auto approval, i figured i'd go ahead and ask for a little clarification on patreon links. To be clear, i do not have a patreon setup yet, and probably won't for another month or two at least, but i joined this forum because my boyfriend and partner on a new hgame project said this is where he found his last team, and we're hoping to find some friends and possible coworkers here. What i wanted to ask though is, in regard to patreons without a demo yet, should we avoid posting a link to our patreon page altogether on our discussion threads for our game, or is it okay to just have a link at th bottom alongside my our tumblr url and website? it seemed you put more emphasis on the pressuring of people to pay, which i don't think having a patreon listed alongsid other websites where we are posting content would be seen as pressuring peopl to pay.... [and the game itself will be free, with patrons getting early access and input on game design/features, and free monthly gifts] for example, we wouldnt post a link to our patreon in other people's threads, but like, i intend to start a concept art thread for our game, post WIPs, and ask for feedback from ppl here. would including a patreon link in my signature or in the intro post be okay in that sort of case, even though we won't have a demo for a little while? [and honestly, because we need patreon to get the software licenses cause we're trying to do everything legal and properly]

I just wanna make sure i don't end up stepping on any toes so sorry if this has been answered in comments and i couldnt find it, i did read through a couple dozen but figured i'd go ahead ans post :3

Zeus Kabob Wrote:

riothawk Wrote:due to the need for ten posts to get that auto approval, i figured i'd go ahead and ask for a little clarification on patreon links. To be clear, i do not have a patreon setup yet, and probably won't for another month or two at least, but i joined this forum because my boyfriend and partner on a new hgame project said this is where he found his last team, and we're hoping to find some friends and possible coworkers here. What i wanted to ask though is, in regard to patreons without a demo yet, should we avoid posting a link to our patreon page altogether on our discussion threads for our game, or is it okay to just have a link at th bottom alongside my our tumblr url and website? it seemed you put more emphasis on the pressuring of people to pay, which i don't think having a patreon listed alongsid other websites where we are posting content would be seen as pressuring peopl to pay.... [and the game itself will be free, with patrons getting early access and input on game design/features, and free monthly gifts] for example, we wouldnt post a link to our patreon in other people's threads, but like, i intend to start a concept art thread for our game, post WIPs, and ask for feedback from ppl here. would including a patreon link in my signature or in the intro post be okay in that sort of case, even though we won't have a demo for a little while? [and honestly, because we need patreon to get the software licenses cause we're trying to do everything legal and properly]

I just wanna make sure i don't end up stepping on any toes so sorry if this has been answered in comments and i couldnt find it, i did read through a couple dozen but figured i'd go ahead ans post :3

The general rule of thumb is thus:

If you don't have a demo, the thread goes in Creative Discussion.
If you have a demo locked behind Patreon and no demo otherwise, this is considered Advertising and will result in a ban.
If you have a demo available for public consumption, and more content locked behind Patreon, then posting a Patreon is disallowed.
If you have a demo available and a Patreon, but no content locked behind Patreon, then posting a link is allowed.

porne Wrote:Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line between 'demo' and 'previous release'? I know a lot of people use their Patreon subscription to put their supporters one month ahead or so.

porne Wrote:Further clarification rule: some games only use Patreon as their host site, not keeping a blog or such that's separate. Not trying to weedle, just pointing out things I've seen.

Zeus Kabob Wrote:A demo is anything playable that closely resembles the game in question. It's not the best wording, and perhaps I should say "playable game" instead.

Putting patrons a month ahead of public releases is something that makes Patreon links disallowed. If you want to use this forum in order to ask for insight into the game or to share your game with people, then you can post a link to the most up-to-date public copy without posting a Patreon link. This will still give you potentially valuable feedback, and will share the game around and improve word-of-mouth. Interested players can look you up on Patreon, and you can mention that you have a Patreon without posting a link to it.