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Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:45 am
by Suraru
This is really starting to piss me off, so it's time to ask a community of horny nerd furries!

I need a new computer. For the last decade, I've been stuck with a frakintop. This Acer Aspire 4530 has had everything except for the motherboard and case replaced at least twice. Speakers, RAM, CPU, GPU, screen, mouse, keyboard, you name it. All jury rigged too, this thing has long lived past it's life expectancy, and I've reached about as far as I can go with upgrading the software, because the hardware is stuck to only accept factory defaults, so the few parts that I couldn't scavenge off of friend's broken laptop, I had to order somehow. I've put less than $100 into this computer over the 9 years I've had it.

I've had enough, and while playing a heavily modded Fallout 3/New Vegas, I decided it's time I get a new computer, especially now that shit is stable and I have $200 saved up thanks to my low end job. I found a few greats ones on ebay, but after following them for a few days, they jacked up above what I can afford. So I'm pissed, and google isn't helpful at all in helping me find what I want. If you guys know any good websites, please tell me. Or better yet, if you can find a computer that exceeds these expectations, I will love you forever.

Price: Under $210 would be nice
Operating system: For gods sake, windows 7 would make things a lot easier.
CPU: Anything above 2.5 GHz x2
GPU: Anything better than nVidia GeForce 9100M G would be acceptable, but it would be optimal to be able to play games at medium/high settings, fallout to name one. I use this website for reference http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.ph ... orce-9100m
RAM: I don't give a shit, RAM is cheap and I can get 8GB for like, $20, so RAM can be whatever
Internet: No really, I would love to be able to go onto the internet with it, this gets oversighted sometimes

I think that's really it, I have my own keyboard, mouse, monitor, stuff like that. If you can help me find this, I will send you pictures of my tits as a thank you.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:42 am
by Jesus
Suraru Wrote:I don't give a shit, RAM is cheap and I can get 8GB for like, $20, so RAM can be whatever


I don't know where you live but RAM is like 100$ for 8 gigs in my state, I built my desktop and fallout 3 was one of the first games I got, it ran that with the built in radeon graphics card so I'm sure that wont be a problem.

Useless filler junk that might help:i7 processors are the fastest and they might get you up there, but are really unreliable. So processor wise go with an i5. Newegg is probably a good place to look unless you browse craigslist and feel like sorting through people wanting to get near retail for oldish used laptops which are a bad deal. There are the sites that sell stuff going to liquidation, but when you buy, get like 20 of everything because chances are they wont work. If you need something to grow a dick and jizz over http://www.falcon-nw.com/ best prebuilts ever, unfortunately its all pretty high priced.

If you can afford to go a little higher, get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230987 its 549$ and I love Asus, hp has a laptop with the exact same specs and is 100$ more, my friend bought the hp, my little brother got the Asus, the biggest difference, the Asus' backlit keyboard is white and the hp's keyboard light blue.

Otherwise sorting through the mess of your local craigslist and backpages will suck but it is probably your best bet to keep it below 210$. Or ask some people at your local hackerspace, as a person who is AI, robotics, and junk, they are really cool.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:40 am
by LoneWolf
If you're confident opening it up and getting your hands dirty, my experience has been that you can get the parts cheaper than buying a complete machine. It's more work than buying pre-built, both in looking for deals and actually assembling it, but if you're on a limited budget it might be worth it.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:28 pm
by Suraru
$46 for RAM, free shipping http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/ ... PID=141520

As for building a computer, new parts would cost me around $700, so it's cheaper, and easier to find a pre-owned custom built machine. I actually haven't done that math in a while, but I'll do it in a bit and find what I come up with.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:06 am
by BlueLight
Suraru Wrote:$46 for RAM, free shipping http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/ ... PID=141520

As for building a computer, new parts would cost me around $700, so it's cheaper, and easier to find a pre-owned custom built machine. I actually haven't done that math in a while, but I'll do it in a bit and find what I come up with.


I heard numbers of 200$ will get you parts for a computer that works but likely in 6month you'll start having to move setting down.
Kinda shocked i don't have to with a 9800m GTS card i have. Okay i do now but for the longest time i could play stuff on high.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:29 am
by starfox55
Are you looking for a desktop or a laptop and what brand do you prefer if any?

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:08 am
by Suraru
I have a laptop, figured out you can't upgrade it. So fuck them, desktop.
As for brand, I don't care about brands, as long as they work and have decent specs, what do brands matter?

Anyways, I already blew the $200 I had saved up on a bunch of commissions for a few characters of mine. So I guess the only purpose of this thread now is to find a goal to shoot for, other than $700.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:02 am
by Chameleon
Go desktop. Go custom. Might want to start with a motherboard. Make sure its ddr3. if you buy used parts be sure they are compatible with the mobo. I wouldnt recommend gigabyte mobos. Newegg has great deals.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:00 am
by BlueLight
Any suggestion on buying mother boards? When i've looked at buying parts, that's always held me up.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:56 am
by Jesus
BlueLight Wrote:Any suggestion on buying mother boards? When i've looked at buying parts, that's always held me up.


When putting your computer together you also have to worry about power supply, too large and your computer will surge and fry, too small and it will be underpowered and break everything. Your motherboard is really up to you, just dont buy something like a barebones dual processor competition board, its just ridiculous for casual use, no one needs that. People get carried away with custom computers, the guy at microcenter talked about how he was at 46,000 for gpu benchmark and was trying to get above 50,000 when I visited last year.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:24 pm
by Zeus Kabob
Jesus. Dual SLI on his motherboard, or is he running something like the Nvidia GTX 780?

Personally I'm unwilling to shell out that kind of cash to get a really good gaming computer, at least until I have a stable income.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:15 pm
by BlueLight
I heard that for you to use SLI, you have to buy your cards in pares

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:04 pm
by Zeus Kabob
I think you have to have the same card to SLI, or at least both cards have to be Nvidia. There's no way to dual SLI an Nvidia chip with an AMD chip, for example.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:16 am
by Chameleon
Oh and "heavily modded fallout 3" AKA Sexout. We know what youre doing, Suraru!

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:59 am
by Suraru
Sexout is for New Vegas, I use Sexus. You know, that one where you basically run around getting raped by everything. Sometimes the raiders do the deathclaw animation by accident and become disfigured, and it's hilarious!
No, but the modlist I currently use is something like this,
Spoiler (click to show/hide):

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
StreetLights.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
UCO-UrbanCombatOverhaul.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
Inventory Access.esm
IMCN.esm
Destruction.esm
aHUD.esm
iHUD.esm
CINEMATECH.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
EVE.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
COCOA.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
EnhancedChildren.esm
AliciasCuteShop.esm
Sharing and Caring Companions.esm
RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm
Zumbs' Overhauled Real Time Security.esm
Ambient Temperature.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
ImaginatorFO3.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
PracticeMakesPerfect.esp
SPECIALforPMP.esp
PMPitems.esp
blanket.esp
JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp
ManualReload.esp
ProneMode.esp
UCO-The Mall.esp
UCO-FOBs.esp
UCOHotfix1.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
Ambient Temperature HUD.esp
Ambient Temperature - OA.esp
Selective Fire.esp
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
StreetLights - Wasteland.esp
CASM.esp
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
DelayAnchorage.esp
DelayThePitt.esp
DelaySteel.esp
delaypl.esp
delayzeta.esp
Delay ThePitt + Anchorage.esp
DK_BulletTime.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp
RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp
RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp
RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp
RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp
Feng Shui.esp
Feng Shui - Keymap Template.esp
PCB.esp
CONELRAD 640-1240.esp
UPP - Pack 1.esp
UPP - Pack 2.esp
Scavenger World.esp
Rude Awakening.esp
Rude Awakening - MMM.esp
SCC - Talk to Anyone.esp
Scenic_Loading_Background.esp
Scenic_Loading_Background_PointofLookoutDLC.esp
Scenic_Loading_Background_OperationAnchorageDLC.esp
Destruction - Main.esp
Destruction - Main - Statics.esp
Destruction - DLC.esp
Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp
DriveableMotorCycle.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp
AliciasCuteShopDoorOverride.esp
AliciasCuteShop, RefurbishDLC - patch.esp
megalight.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
RH_FWE_Bridge.esp
Tailor Maid.esp
Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
Tailor Maid PITT.esp
Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
RH_WMK_Bridge.esp
Powered Power Armor.esp
PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp
PPA - Broken Steel.esp
PPA - The Pitt.esp
PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp
PPA - FWE.esp
PPA - Ambient Temperature.esp
PPA - IMCN.esp
Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
Childhood Beginning.esp
ZORTS - Custom HP - FWE.esp
ZORTS - Disable FWE activate.esp
Salvagable cars.esp
EVE.esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
RH_EVE_Bridge.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp
COCOA - FWE Followers Enhanced (Broken Steel).esp
Imp's More Complex Needs.esp
IMCN - 5 DLC Merged.esp
IMCN - FWE Compatibility and Ingestibles.esp
IMCN - MMM Meats, Bloods, and Eyeballs.esp
IMCN - Ambient Temperature.esp
Sensible Dismemberment Lite.esp
1PipboyPDA.esp
PPA - Readius.esp
No[EMPTY]ContainerMessages.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Smaller Spatters Realistic.esp
dD-Reduced Ragdoll Force.esp
dD-Reduced Dismember Force.esp
dD-Smaller Wounds.esp
Level50BrokenSteel.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp
Directors Chair - Fallout 3.esp
DUIF3Extras.esp
Destruction - CP - Fellout.esp
Error Fixes V1.5.esp
Error Fixes V1.5 - Higher FPS.esp
Error Fixes V1.5 - FastTravelIndoors.esp
Error Fixes V1.5 - Fallout3 Wanderers Edition.esp
Error Fixes V1.5 - Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp
Error Fixes V1.5 - Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

And this is after I uninstalled Arwin's Realism Tweaks, Advanced Recon, eXcalibr, Project Reality, Fellout, FOOK, GreenWorld, Hairpack, Lings, Real Time Settler, Sexus, and my personal Zombie Apocalypse mod.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:35 am
by Jesus
Zeus Kabob Wrote:Jesus. Dual SLI on his motherboard, or is he running something like the Nvidia GTX 780? Personally I'm unwilling to shell out that kind of cash to get a really good gaming computer, at least until I have a stable income.


If I had to guess, and I do because it was over a year ago, it was probably SLI.

And when it comes to maintenance, I make best buy clean the jizz off my motherboard, I'm always afraid I'll do it wrong.

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Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:03 am
by BlueLight
Take a can of air, likely cost you $15 tops at my best guess (Blue has no clue!) and just spray inside your computer all over. That will clean most dust off your cards which is the number one problem i have where there is something physically wrong with my hardware/computers. Make sure you get the fans.

Re: Used Gaming Computers

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:15 am
by Ivan-Aedler
Hey, nice toothbrush!

Tech info:
Its not so wrong to wash the electronic devices, the problem is that:
1. you need a neutral water (in PH and in regard to polarized charges) and a neutral soap to be perfect. If not, damage can occur over time.
2. if you depend on the sun to dry it out, the radiation will do more harm than good. So you will end up needing an artificial drier (like hairdryers).
3. you dont know if all water particles were vanished. If not, the board can be rusty over time or worse, short circuits can occur.
4. you need to detach the parts (motherboard, video card, the computer case itself) then reassemble them.

I use WD-40 (the original) after using can of airs or compressors (those heavy 'butane-like' things) without disassembling the cards.
Then you can spray WD-40 over the cards, and you can turn the PC on seconds later!
Some people say its bad for the resin/vinyl/protective particles that permeates the circuits, but well, I've seen technicians do that to motherboards over and over again in a time span of 15 years without a problem. Old pcs still running today. People who would like a 'restarted' PC (as new) should use WD-40 once per 6 months. I use once a year.

And yes, I have Pentium 2 and Pentium 3 still running optimized Windows XP versions. But games are better played in DOS environments. Many Pentium 3 or AMD PCs (like 700mhz) are faster than a Nintendo Gamecube. I just dont use more and more old PCs in parallel because they can use as much energy than a Core i7 (provided you dont use complex 3d cards or many attached devices at the same time). You can get a Core i7 running in a 300watt power supply.