Sony wins!

[Suraru]

So yeah, I don't know if you saw the press conference, but it kinda went like this.

Microsoft: "This is the Xbox One. It can be on the TV"

Sony: "This is the PS4, it's cheaper, faster, has better graphics, doesn't spy on you, can share games, and is basically better in every way against the Xbox One."

So yeah, Microsoft is out of the Console wars this generation.

[Thaedael]

Meanwhile, thae continues to enjoy Wii U's backwards compatibility, not forcing him to rebuy games on online stores, again again...

[Zeus Kabob]

Yepyep

[BlueLight]

Meanwhile, thae continues to enjoy Wii U's backwards compatibility, not forcing him to rebuy games on online stores, again again...

sadly there just aren't that many games for it.... i think i'll wait before even thinking of buying one... unless thae wants to trade me one of his... oh wait, neither of have that crap Xbox one with it's required trading system that was created by Microsoft.

also suraru, STFU, Xbox will win this console war with it's VCR vs sony's other VCR. This video just proves the epiciness of Microsoft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOwA46785pk
oh, fuck, wait... umm... oops..

Yepyep

Zeus, never stop being the forum bad ass.

[Zeus Kabob]

Yepyep

Zeus, never stop being the forum bad ass.

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[Thaedael]

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[BlueLight]

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Well played but in reply i bring you..... You'll never guess what... it's totally not red.... nor a prankster beyond belief.

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Also, because we need a new console that can cook since the PS3 doesn't cut it anymore.

I'm thinking of getting the PS3 and i don't know why... Thae, slap me! The wiiU has a tablet and i don't so the wiiU must be better... for me...

[Thaedael]

Meh, I can't complain. I have a ps3. I has xbox360. I has wii. I literally get them as hand me downs from family members that grow bored of the newer "old consoles"

[QuizmasterBos]

I find calling Sony the winner a little early, we haven't even seen Nintendo's stuff yet. But, that won't take long (about 4 minutes, from posting).
I'll form my opinion after watching that.

PS: Loved the troll move from Sony about sharing games.

[Nobudi]

You're lucky you have WiiU Thae, cause I would love to have this game.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I am a Mario fan, but I'll end up being a 'Gario', 'Rario', Prario', and others' fan (clones that could have good ideas and BE ON PS3 and PS4!) Like this game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGzOKbVC2r8

And games on PC/MAC/Solaris/Arduino/Java/Android too, of course

[trunks2585]

http://tgfb.net/fun/src/137111393758.gif E3 2013 in a nutshell.

[Zeus Kabob]

Whoah, Trunks! Nice to see you around again!

[zeldafreak1]

Since Trunks (That can't be the real one. The real one left ages ago) put up that, I'm going to throw mine in the mix:

[LuftMallow]

I can't shake the feeling that we're forgetting something here...

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Oh well, it can't be important then...

Anyway, I've been increasingly distancing myself from game news more each year due to my financial situation. I can maybe afford a game or two each year and one console from a generation, so I can't just pick up whatever catches my fancy. I only keep up a bit so I don't look like a complete dumbass when new things are brought up in a conversation.

[zeldafreak1]

I can't shake the feeling that we're forgetting something here...

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Oh well, it can't be important then...

Anyway, I've been increasingly distancing myself from game news more each year due to my financial situation. I can maybe afford a game or two each year and one console from a generation, so I can't just pick up whatever catches my fancy. I only keep up a bit so I don't look like a complete dumbass when new things are brought up in a conversation.

I'm getting to be the same way mate. I never really followed E3 because I don't have a lot of fundage. And just like always, the internet explodes with a summarized version of what happened. Look at this thread for example. Why follow E3 when people are just going to summarize it for you?

[whodaman]

Hey, Im all for the ps4s and sonys, but has anyone seen that sonic galaxy coming out for the Wii u? Sega's shit talking about revolutionizing gaming better be something, or else Sega will lose just about all the cred it still has from arcades. I am not holding out for Nintendo to wow me, but at least NintenDO what Capcom won't, give love to the blue bomber! I am mostly neutral on the console wars, being of the PC master race.

[QuizmasterBos]

Hey, Im all for the ps4s and sonys, but has anyone seen that sonic galaxy coming out for the Wii u? Sega's shit talking about revolutionizing gaming better be something, or else Sega will lose just about all the cred it still has from arcades. I am not holding out for Nintendo to wow me, but at least NintenDO what Capcom won't, give love to the blue bomber!

What, you didn't see Sonic Lost Worlds? It's a slower Sonic game than usual, but it still looks enjoyable. I mean, I'm not going to buy it, but that's because I am not much for Sonic. I think you're a little harsh on Sega here, they're actually showing something decent, instead of Shadow The Hedgehog/Sonic 06/half of Unleashed/Sonic and the Black Knight

I am mostly neutral on the console wars, being of the PC master race.

Alright, I've seen this freaking comment way too much and I'm sick of it. I HATE it when people have to state that PC is master race! You want to know why?
Because it's NOT the same freaking thing! Look, a computer is more powerful because it's not meant for gaming, but for running a bunch of software at once, that's why it's a computer. Consoles are optimized for gaming and are used for that. They both can do the same thing, but they cannot be compared. Like, cars and planes for instance.
Car owner 1: "My car is faster than your car. It can get from 0 to 60 in 2,5 seconds."
Car owner 2: "I don't care about that. Mine is very comfortable whilst driving and has a lot of storing space."
Plane owner: "Whatever. Mine can travel faster than any car and can store way more, so I'm the best."

You see? They are both a method of transportation but they cannot be seen as the same thing.

And even IF I give you the comparison, it wouldn't be fair. Why? Because any way you see it, you CAN play the exclusive Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Sega etc. games on your PC eventually, via an emulator. But we live in the here and now and we like consoles. Please, let us just enjoy our stuff, whilst you play PC exclusives/versions. But, stop saying that PC is the "master race", okay?

[whodaman]

I never compared the PC to any console, I am just stating that I am pro PC because Sony likes using specs and comparing to computers......if you did not know this.
Seriously Quizmasters....try understanding before calling out.

And Sonic Galaxy IS Lost Worlds, I am making a joke at how low Sega is going, though I am understanding of the new approach. And I am not being harsh on sega, I am just pointing out that they spread something, what was it, sega vizion? No, god...can't remember....and they said they would reveal what it was at e3, saying it will revolutionize modern gaming. Sega is still the king of arcades....but I will lose all my respect if they don't deliver.

And I will never stop saying PC is the "master race" why? I would tell you, but the explanation would make me go off topic, I don't mind debating this, but I know that it makes no sense to compare pc to consoles.

[Renara]

I think there's been something of an overreaction to the whole XBox One vs PS4 debate, but before I cover it I just want to add that I'm not buying either console; I'm just going to wait a while and build a small form-factor PC to a good gaming standard with whatever decently priced parts I can get.

Anyway, the big issue with XBox One is digital versus disk; for the XBox One the disk is used purely as a means of installing the game, you don't need the disk once it's installed (though it can't hurt to keep it). So what Microsoft is doing instead is providing a platform for authorising your digital content across accounts and XBoxes, which in theory is actually less restrictive than for the PS4 as you can share with up to 10 people (I believe in addition to local accounts on the same XBox which can just play normally), and there is some kind of system on the way to de-authorise accounts so a game-disk will be able to be resold*. The main issue is that this will be a platform rather than a strict contract, so it's up to the publishers which capabilities they will enable and to what extent. However, the thing to take note of that this is no different from now, as publishers can (and many do) already add DRM to their games that add restrictions to resale and lending, such as unlock codes to enable exclusive content for only the original owner of the disk, or anyone willing to pay for a new code.
The systems may seem very different, but in practice they're going to be pretty much the same, as both leave it up to the publisher. The main difference is that the XBox platform is all about digital without being tied to disks, which is pretty much the way things have been going anyway.
*For resale on the XBox One, I fully expect the system is already in place, it'll just be a matter of rolling it out to trade-in stores so they know how to verify or de-authorise a game before resale (so you don't end up with an unusable disk).

Regarding the price; I was pretty shocked at the $500 figure for the XBox One, as that's PS3 release territory, but it does come with TV capabilities and a bundled Kinect, so it's not like you're not getting anything for the extra $100. The main issue with the price is that on paper the gaming console side of the XBox One comes with less hardware; it has essentially the same CPU, but its GPU is around 1/3rd less powerful, although it has 8gb of RAM 1-3gb of that is for the non-gaming OS. Spec-wise the RAM seems worse as well as the PS3 has 8gb GDDR5 while the XBox One has DDR3, but there are differences there too; GDDR5 has great bandwidth but poor latency, so while it's great for a GPU it's not so good for more general operations, though this may mainly affect physics but otherwise shouldn't be a big deal for gaming. So for $400 you get a better pure games console, while for $500 the XBox One is still plenty capable for a games console, but has a heavy aim towards TV as well.

I dunno, it's an interesting pairing, but personally I think we've still only heard a fraction of the exclusive titles that Microsoft will be lining up, and this where they will regain a lot of ground as you can never underestimate the Halo effect of… Halo