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We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby [Brand_Name] » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:38 am

I'll start off with I'm not gay, but I don't have anything against those who are.

NAOW, while peruzing through random people's profiles, I don't think I've found a single person who's openly gay. Not bisexual, we're talking homosexual. Is that true? Or are we just scared to say the truth? I was under the impression that LoK is a VERY open environment.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby napsii » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:55 am

I think we're a very open and diverse community. It's somewhat hard to take a census of everyone's sexuality when many of our regular customers aren't registered or would prefer to keep that to themselves, and of course that's their choice.

If anyone slanders another user based on their sexuality, the moderator team will come down on them like a ton of bricks. We don't tolerate discrimination of any sort.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby starfox55 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:58 am

I have nothing against homosexual people that are openly gay. In fact i thing its better to be openly gay because it shows you are strong and brave enough to oppose the haters. People should be allowed to love and marry who they love and shouldn't be forced to do otherwise. IT'S OKAY TO BE GAY!!!!!!!! :D
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby BlueLight » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:00 am

Brand, how big was your sample size. If your sample size was 100, then you have 13.743 in one of finding someone that is homosexual, assuming their is only 1 homo sexual on the forum.

Basically you're just not checking the right places. In general we're a open forum but that doesn't mean everyone will announce it. For instants i lie and say i'm Bisexual on my profile page, but that doesn't mean i'm not Homosexual or Hetrosexual.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby napsii » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:06 am

I should also point out that (excuse me if I'm misinterpreting something here) Brand_Name seems to think not finding any registered users who also chose to display their sexuality could suggest that the site is homophobic, which is quite the leap in logic. Like Bluelight rightly pointed out, his research methodology isn't exactly the greatest. xD

I've seen nothing to suggest that LOK's community is homophobic. In my experience, the people here are very tolerant and I think a lot of other users would echo that.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby QuizmasterBos » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:16 am

napsii Wrote:I should also point out that (excuse me if I'm misinterpreting something here) Brand_Name seems to think not finding any registered users who also chose to display their sexuality could suggest that the site is homophobic, which is quite the leap in logic. Like Bluelight rightly pointed out, his research methodology isn't exactly the greatest. xD

I've seen nothing to suggest that LOK's community is homophobic. In my experience, the people here are very tolerant and I think a lot of other users would echo that.

Well, I've checked out various profiles and there is one person who list himself as homosexual. And that is Calpico.
Also, I've never noticed aversion of any kind the time that I've been on this forum and before that when I was lurking, so I disagree with the notion that we are homophobic. I know I am not.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby BlueLight » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:37 am

Can't trust Profiles. Most people thought i was a male, then when i changed my profile, people were shocked to find out i was a girl... or am I? As we all know, i'm a shemale. Point is, are profiles are likely the least important things to us and it doesn't matter to us as much as it matters to other people.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby LoneWolf » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:42 am

I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that LoK is turning off male homosexuals.

Not because the community is homophobic in any way, though - it's just that this is (at it's heart) a porn site, and almost all of the characters in said porn are female. Legend of Krystal itself, Mario is Missing, Sakyubasu no Tatakai ... look at pretty much any of the higher-profile games on the site and you'll find that they'd be much less interesting for anyone who is mainly into guy-on-guy. (Breeding Season is an interesting example: it does include both m/m and f/f pairings, but while there are several animated f/f pairs, dickwolf/dickwolf - one of the very first pairs you're likely to get - still doesn't have one. Perhaps even more interesting is the fact that nobody seems to be complaining much ...)

Edit: It might be worth adding that I don't think there's anything wrong or discriminatory about that. Basically, this is a site for people who are into furry chicks. If you aren't, you're still perfectly welcome to hang out with us ... but you might find it a bit boring.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby [Brand_Name] » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:43 am

LoneWolf Wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that LoK is turning off male homosexuals.

Not because the community is homophobic in any way, though - it's just that this is (at it's heart) a porn site, and almost all of the characters in said porn are female. Legend of Krystal itself, Mario is Missing, Sakyubasu no Tatakai ... look at pretty much any of the higher-profile games on the site and you'll find that they'd be much less interesting for anyone who is mainly into guy-on-guy. (Breeding Season is an interesting example: it does include both m/m and f/f pairings, but while there are several animated f/f pairs, dickwolf/dickwolf - one of the very first pairs you're likely to get - still doesn't have one. Perhaps even more interesting is the fact that nobody seems to be complaining much ...)

Edit: It might be worth adding that I don't think there's anything wrong or discriminatory about that. Basically, this is a site for people who are into furry chicks. If you aren't, you're still perfectly welcome to hang out with us ... but you might find it a bit boring.


This is pretty much what I was thinking. Of course, like you all have said, I haven't been looking at the entire lok community, just certain rp's and creative corner threads, and not even all members of said threads.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby maximilianos » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:13 am

On another thread called something like ''sexual orientation. What's yours?'' where there was a poll on well... guess...
from what I understood not a single person who said he/she was gay was shunned off. (although the votes show that the amount of gays are quite low, might not be a reliable source though)

Link: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1148
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby Zeus Kabob » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:27 am

I'll throw my bit into the ring: I've seen a few people suggest male/male content for games, but general consensus is that the content isn't supported. I can't remember sources (the last time I saw a suggestion was over a year ago), but I do remember there being resistance to male/male content as a set piece in a game, let alone core content. I've seen this be the case for several fetishes that we have audience for (pregnancy, inflation, tentacles, futanari, and others), so this "aversion" to male/male content may not be a general forum aversion, but instead a push for keeping fetishistic and male/male sexual content as optional content rather than story content.

Honestly, I can't say that I would play a game with male/male content as a core element, but there are many game mechanics that I'd avoid.

Myself, I think homosexual males are quite great. I've had quite a few gay friends, and I find that they can have very unique viewpoints. Along with more female members, this could help introduce more differing viewpoints in the forum.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby zeldafreak1 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:22 pm

Zeus Kabob Wrote:I'll throw my bit into the ring: I've seen a few people suggest male/male content for games, but general consensus is that the content isn't supported. I can't remember sources (the last time I saw a suggestion was over a year ago), but I do remember there being resistance to male/male content as a set piece in a game, let alone core content. I've seen this be the case for several fetishes that we have audience for (pregnancy, inflation, tentacles, futanari, and others), so this "aversion" to male/male content may not be a general forum aversion, but instead a push for keeping fetishistic and male/male sexual content as optional content rather than story content.

Honestly, I can't say that I would play a game with male/male content as a core element, but there are many game mechanics that I'd avoid.

Myself, I think homosexual males are quite great. I've had quite a few gay friends, and I find that they can have very unique viewpoints. Along with more female members, this could help introduce more differing viewpoints in the forum.


Can't say it much better than that. But I think that the lack of male/male content is because no one really can write/think up good scenes. But that's just what I speculate.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby maximilianos » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:47 pm

Well... If you created a game, would you put things you preferred in that game, not things that put you off. (which male on male might do for most straight ppl out there)
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby Mr D » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:45 pm

I do not fully understand this. You think that some homosexual people decide not to click that sexuality option in the profile, meaning that they are insecure with their sexuality? How does it imply homophobia? And why the heck would you go around posting "and btw guys I am gay" or "btw absolutely straight" or bisexual. Wouldn't that just make you look like an douchebag if you would go around posting your sexual orientation everywhere? Who the heck cares about things like that anyway? There was never any hate towards homosexuals on this forum as far as I know so why are you bringing up homophobia?
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby Chameleon » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:18 pm

LEGALIZE GAY FUCK YEAH!!!
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby maximilianos » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 pm

since when was it illegal? also, i agree with Mr D, it's not a matter of homophobia. It's simply that ppl don't go around and scream ''I'M GAAAY'' or ''I'M NOT GAAAY'' (if they're not)
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby Chameleon » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:39 pm

In america gay marriage is only legal in 9 states.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby [Brand_Name] » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:52 am

Mr D Wrote:I do not fully understand this. You think that some homosexual people decide not to click that sexuality option in the profile, meaning that they are insecure with their sexuality? How does it imply homophobia? And why the heck would you go around posting "and btw guys I am gay" or "btw absolutely straight" or bisexual. Wouldn't that just make you look like an douchebag if you would go around posting your sexual orientation everywhere? Who the heck cares about things like that anyway? There was never any hate towards homosexuals on this forum as far as I know so why are you bringing up homophobia?


Yep you're pretty durn right- homophobia probably isn't the right word. I guess my thinking was that I see people's profiles saying that he/she is bi or straight and never saw anybody's say gay. So I assumed that they were either insecure about it/they were scared to say the truth because they were afraid that we were somehow against gays. I''m not saying this is true, or course, but that was my train of thought.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby napsii » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:01 am

We (as in most of us) do our best to create an environment where nobody is discriminated against, and I think it's been working. When it comes to the lack of homosexual content in the Creative Corner, that is best explained by the preferences of the project creators and those providing input. It is not the result of prejudice -- just preference for straight content.

In any case, it is highly unfair (not to mention, somewhat ignorant) to call people you likely don't know (much less have actually talked to) "insecure". If they don't want to disclose such a personal piece of information, then they're perfectly within their rights to do so.

This said, if anyone does feel like they're being discriminated against or harassed for their sexuality, then they can PM one of the moderators or file a report and we'll take care of it.
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Re: We're not Homophobic- Right?

Postby BlueLight » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:50 am

maximilianos Wrote:since when was it illegal? also, i agree with Mr D, it's not a matter of homophobia. It's simply that ppl don't go around and scream ''I'M GAAAY'' or ''I'M NOT GAAAY'' (if they're not)

It was illegal around the time you'd be killed for homosexuality.
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