Computer virus discussion.

[BlueLight]

So i'm making this thread because it's a tangent to another thread.

I don't care if you know how to make them or infect some one computer with it and i will report you if you try to explain Virus design under the ground it's basically illegal.

Required reading.

It is all good now, I managed to actually find a usable download with the updated Engrish version.
Now I can play it anywhere I take my USB
I had many problems downloading it, most of the time it was corrupted, virus infected, v 1.31, or something was missing. >.>

Flash and Viruses.. some how I believe it.

Flash and Viruses.. some how I believe it.

I know, I have had quite a few problems with this in the last few years. And not just H flash games.
My friend had an infected version of Civilization 2, somehow!

Ya, flash and java it seems has a lot of security leaks compared to other languges. I find that a bit strange since they are limited in what they can do because of the cross platform capability that all 3 platforms have but don't share. Basically java normally uses what is common between the three systems. I can program an actionlistener to look for a left click on all 3 systems but i believe a right click would only be possible on 1. Mac's you'd have to say "applekey + leftclick" and then redo everything just for mac. Files are limited to because of what abilities Windows has but the others do not.

I had a ISO file of tropico 3, with a virus in a second installer file..... I don't ask why the ISO had a virus and if you must ask i like ISO because i can put them on my hard drive and save space that way. I also don't need to connect to a server like steam to install the software.
I just recompiled the file with the second installer removed.

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

I did not understand a little what is this topic about ?

As i know flash can not be virus - unles it is not a flash (for example some kind of exe that have the same picture),

It is possible to make some kind of viruses on flash for example - you make bat file or CMD file - and remove some thing from players computer - for example windows catalog

But if you want to make it on flash - you will need to use Active X - and your vrowser ask you - would you like to use Active X. (And if you say No - it will not work)

So it is much more simple too put virus not in flash that will link to it and try to open it - but may be put it in the web page document or make some script that will be linked from other source some how.

But if some how it is possible to make that kind of viruses on flash - i will be very happy if i know how Becouse the same way it will be possible to save data - and i need to good solution how to save it on flash - becouse i do not like flash shared object

I want to save in txt file - and do not ask player would he like use ActiveX for example =)

[BlueLight]

So i can see both flash and java being used as a deployment method for a virus and with java there is a way to run programs

[Zeus Kabob]

As I've heard, there are a lot of documented sandboxing issues in Java, allowing for remote arbitrary code execution on affected computers. This is especially true for older versions of Java, but recently there have been some zero-day attacks on computers with the most current version of Java.

It looks like there are some remote code execution issues in at least some versions of Flash. I'd say your best bet is to only run trusted Java and Flash applications.

Remember that you can set up your browser (as I've done in Chrome) to require authentication in the form of a click for applications such as Flash and Java.

Remember to report anything that triggers an antivirus response. Keeping it limited to reports would be best, however. I don't want for authors' names to be tarnished because antivirus decides to freak out.

Stay safe, everyone!

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

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So i can see both flash and java being used as a deployment method for a virus and with java there is a way to run programs

It is always a way - but with only flash you can not do that. And you can make the ame with out flash - for example the way i know:

You yse call bake funton in flash -> it use function in browser (java script) -> it use active X -> it use some kind of virus or program script.

But in this the solution - browser will ask you do you want to use Active X - or will not work.

If it is not for example windows - the virus program that was made for windows will not work on other OS and etc.

So you can always make it with out flash Becouse you can use function in java script for example on load - with out flash

But i am not good in viruses - just read some interesting stuff some times ago - about something like that but newer try it my self - so i am noob in it

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In flash 5 was some kind of bug that lets start programs more easy - after it only in exe file if i was not mistaken.

[BlueLight]

Remember to report anything that triggers an antivirus response. Keeping it limited to reports would be best, however. I don't want for authors' names to be tarnished because antivirus decides to freak out.

Stay safe, everyone!

So i would like to state that most software of AAA games gets put on the list of "Keylogger" because how people design there controls. the moral of the story is read what the problem is at the very least.

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

Some antiviruses work not correct and work on everything. Just for example i had to make CMD scripts that turn of my computer or make some thing like that.

And what do you think ? Antivirus delete it and say that it was virus - i say that no it was not - and restore it =)) But it say no man it does and delete it again - so i was fighting with that antivirus for i think about half of an hour. Then i turn it off and live with out problems.

By the way some of antiviruses will not help if even they work. I get virus when i use Avira / some man get it with Mac Afee or i do not know how it is named.

But wor a long period of time i do not use any of it and do not get viruses. But you have to stay alert all the time and use only that sites you believe too.

With Kasperskiy - i did not see any viruses - but it blocks all - so it is even worse then any viruses

[Zeus Kabob]

Yeah,I know what you mean. I, as a long-time Linux user, have maintained that antivirus software is a virus in itself. It blocks your computer from doing things, it heavily reduces performance, and it shuts down and restarts your computer without warning. At the same time, they can hold valuable insight into security threats, and they can shed some light on the inner workings of some programs.