Why is life worth living?

[Reapergod36]

What if everyone in your life, doesn't seem to care enough to stop you. If your family doesn't seem to love you anymore. If life seems like a box, with all walls closing in on you.



Sorry if I bring anyone down, by them reading this.

[Zeus Kabob]

Well, I have a simple solution (though perhaps flawed).

Life is worth living only so long as its enjoyable. If it's no better than the contrary (death), then it's not worth living. Of course, my depiction of death is nothingness, so it's a pretty easy decision. If you now enjoy your life or can remember enjoying your life, it's worth living your life and striving to enjoy every moment of it. If you can't remember enjoying your life or can't conceive of a way to enjoy your life, then end it.

[BlueLight]

Reaper, I'm sorry I don't have any solution for you that isn't me completely guessing.

What i'd do is find a goal, anything in life that you set for yourself. It could be getting a first check, maybe getting a girl to kiss you on your elbow(What! You don't want something easy like the lips, now doing you?) or maybe something harder like becoming a CEO. Once you've picked your goal that you truly want, then start working towards it and keeping telling yourself that you can't die until you complete it. Once it is complete you pick a new goal.

Also just because i love this quote.

living is the best revenge- Allan Jones

[Smackman]

Oooooh I'm gonna get on the LoK forums to get the RPers to talk me out of suicide!

[jayjaycaps]

Please don't mock him Smackman. Suicide is no laughing matter, and I'm sure Reaper doesn't appreciate your comment.

[Suraru]

Oooooh I'm gonna get on the LoK forums to get the RPers to talk me out of suicide!

Can't be worse then me going on a porn forum to ask for help with girl problems.
Reaper, just be careful what you say, I said that and almost lost all reasons to live because of corporate bullshit.

I believe in fate, everyone is here for a reason, everything that happens to you is for a reason. I believe this because I find good things in just about everything, even if it takes a few years, good always comes from events.

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If your reason for living is to die, and inspire someone, then so be it, but optimistic chances are it isn't, and your purpose is for something else, something better then taking the pussy way out and killing yourself.

If shit is happening, that bullshit saying "It gets better" is actually true, just translated by many brains into the different meanings. I believe it means that good comes from everything, even if it takes thousands of years past when your dead, good always comes from people's, and nature's actions.

[talin]

Actually I changed my signature a few days ago and it answers your question. Blue put it more in depth though. Basically you just need to attempt perfection, short of that, come as close as physically fucking possible. If a religion gives you a drive to live then I hope to (insert chosen deity here) that your right and that their is an afterlife. My personal logic makes me believe otherwise so my first BIG goal is obtaining immortality. I've looked into medical journals and scientific articles and I've seen that certain animals have achieved it so I'm going to try to as well the first chance I get. After that, I'll focus more on getting this mess we call a race together and fix them up. (provided they want to be fixed, I'll leave the rest who don't want to help fix things up) After that, it will be a combination of trying to improve myself, humanity, and anyone else. Then when I'm good and ready and feel there is no more I can do in life, I'll write an autobiography and off myself (provided that's still possible). So if you want you can share my goals cause I'm probably going to need some help with it! I also have less impressive goals of college and gaining the resources/power/wealth to pull off my biggest goals but they aren't as inspiring. Hell if I can't pull it off, I'm going to at least give that chance to someone else!

[Smackman]

I just think its pathetic. you're claiming your family doesn't care and shit... same old story... maybe if you went and said the same shit to them THEY could talk you out of it instead of some anonymous people on the LoK forums. But my guess is that this is just a cry for attention. You're better off doing something fun to get peoples attention

[Zeus Kabob]

If you don't like the subject of this thread, leave and never come back. Your opinion is noted, but it's denied.

Think of this; parents have a vested interest in their kids' well-being. As a suicidal kid, you want someone to care because they love you, not because they're obligated to. If you can't trust your parents to tell you the truth about that, then it makes sense to seek outside help.

[Rooiehaan #2]

the question isnt whether life is worth living or not; you live life automatically.
Life itself is given meaning by the things you like doing, and the people you like and its these things that usually keep death away.
The true question i guess would be: what is it that makes one prefer life over death?

sure, there's the ever unknown about one might find.
shakespear said that to die is to sleep, but who knows? maybe you don't sleep, but simply go to another plane; be reincarnated and such? what would happen if life would be even worse there?

my advise: cling to life, and cling to everything that makes a smile grow on your face; you'll never know if you'll be able to do it again after the curtains fall.

[Mr D]

Smackman what are you talking about? Did you read Reapers question? He wants to know an answer on that question, he never said he is in that kind of situation. I dont know how you see it but to me it looked like an hypothetical questions.

About the subject - To me death means nothingness. Which is something I fear endlessly.The thought of my awereness not existing is something unimagenable for me and that does scare me. So no matter what, life is always an better option than death in my mind.

[Reapergod36]

Heh, thanks for the support guys. And smackman, my own father has told me to do the world a favor and kill myself. That was the second time I've hit him.




But yeah, I was depressed, still am. Needed a bit of an outlet. Bit of support etc. And yes, I indeed have received it. I love how on a forum full of sexual deviants basically. No offense, I take it as a compliment. You people would actually be more supportive. Meanwhile I remember a long time ago when I was 13, same thing kinda ached at me. And I asked for support from a gaming forum. I just received a bunch of posts telling me to kill myself. And how fucking awesome it would be.

[Mr D]

Hmm I guess I was the one that thought about the question in a wrong way. My bad. But I still stand by what I said about the subject.
And btw Reaper no offense but your dad is kind of an dick

[Gorbaz]

... you know that cat's stuffed, right?

But yeah. I know life is worth living because I wake up in the morning. Brand new day! Who knows what could happen! Just think of the crazy things I can say and do to make people around me laugh! And, if it's a real shit day? Oh well. It's over now. Tomorrow will be along in a moment

I take life easy. Don't get stressed with stuff that goes on. No point in getting angry, as it never gets you anything positive. Oh my god! Some country is developing nuclear tech! So what? Not a damn thing I can do about it, so let what happens happen, and just get on with life.

Sure, I'd probably think differently if I was living out of a cardboard box, and had to scrounge and beg for my next meal. But, if that was the case, I wouldn't be here! So that's one more good thing!

[Thee Pie Man]

What if everyone in your life, doesn't seem to care enough to stop you. If your family doesn't seem to love you anymore. If life seems like a box, with all walls closing in on you.
Sorry if I bring anyone down, by them reading this.

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There's two ways I would see this in my own shoes. (If I was in that situation)

If everyone in my life didn't seem to care enough to stop me. I would find new people to fill my life. Just as there is plenty of fish in the sea for dating, I am sure friendships, new or old can always be made (by old friendships I mean finding some old friends that might be better help that you haven't talked to in a long time)

If my family didn't seem to love me anymore I would in all honesty wait until I could get out then follow what I said just above this ^ Getting new people in your life to fill the void no matter how big the hole. Sure it's just a temp fix until you realize (or a friend convinces you) that life truly moves on. You won't always have to feel like shit if you continue (or start in some cases) to try to be positive about your situation and problems.

As far as the box goes, I have actually had that happen. I just imagine a door to my goals, if you have no goals make some. Simple ones could be learning to draw to contribute on here, or programming? Heck I have made goals of just being a better person overall but *shrugs* this is me, you have to decide to

Others could be doing college for a specific purpose and etc.

The overall thing you need to maintain is peace though not trying to sound like a hippie or something, but honestly you gotta be at peace with yourself. Not let things get to you that rude and ridiculous people say. Even if they are your own family... (Have had some problems on that side too.)

I think you have a lot of support here, showing that you are at least thought about by others that do give a damn.
However you go about it, I wish you good luck Reaper.

[jayjaycaps]

Actually I changed my signature a few days ago and it answers your question.

Then what does my signature say?

...Fuck.

[BlueLight]

What if everyone in your life, doesn't seem to care enough to stop you. If your family doesn't seem to love you anymore. If life seems like a box, with all walls closing in on you.
Sorry if I bring anyone down, by them reading this.

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There's two ways I would see this in my own shoes. (If I was in that situation)

If everyone in my life didn't seem to care enough to stop me. I would find new people to fill my life. Just as there is plenty of fish in the sea for dating, I am sure friendships, new or old can always be made (by old friendships I mean finding some old friends that might be better help that you haven't talked to in a long time)

If my family didn't seem to love me anymore I would in all honesty wait until I could get out then follow what I said just above this ^ Getting new people in your life to fill the void no matter how big the hole. Sure it's just a temp fix until you realize (or a friend convinces you) that life truly moves on. You won't always have to feel like shit if you continue (or start in some cases) to try to be positive about your situation and problems.

As far as the box goes, I have actually had that happen. I just imagine a door to my goals, if you have no goals make some. Simple ones could be learning to draw to contribute on here, or programming? Heck I have made goals of just being a better person overall but *shrugs* this is me, you have to decide to

Others could be doing college for a specific purpose and etc.

The overall thing you need to maintain is peace though not trying to sound like a hippie or something, but honestly you gotta be at peace with yourself. Not let things get to you that rude and ridiculous people say. Even if they are your own family... (Have had some problems on that side too.)

I think you have a lot of support here, showing that you are at least thought about by others that do give a damn.
However you go about it, I wish you good luck Reaper.

To be frank, I believe you live in a dream world. While what you say is great and all, I feel its unrealistic.
My mother, one of the smartest people i know; she's a nurse and not a doctor because she was live with verbally abusive parents and she need to get out of the house as soon as she could.
Her plans were to become a doctor but she decided to rush school and basically get a 4 year degree in 2 years.

Emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse and can be harder to detect. Again i see where your going and I agree its a nice place, but, things don't work that way(Unless my experiences are different than yours.)

[Smackman]

yeah i wasn't telling you to kill yourself either, i was telling you that this is probably the worst place to find support. noone knows you here, and some of us have our dicks out while posting

[Thee Pie Man]

Emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse and can be harder to detect. Again i see where your going and I agree its a nice place, but, things don't work that way(Unless my experiences are different than yours.)

It's not a place, or a different world. It's just how I think of things. It's a lot of differences in my thinking then most people.

While I can not talk about my mother's past because I respect her privacy, and honestly I rather not talk about it on a porn forum.
Regardless it did have emotional and physical abuse frequently and I will also say she was subjected to some very horrid things.

Myself I have lived with my other five family members, I am eighteen with a dad that act's like the computer is his way to relive his childhood, through second life and ridiculous crap like that. His number one thing outside emergency's want to know what his number one thing? In a house of six? Organization. He bad mouths us no matter how clean we make the house, he has called my mother so many things and she is trying to go to college so if he keeps it up we can move off and get our own place because supporting four of her children is ridiculous on her own. We have added it up and benefits wouldn't cover what we need.

and I will not even bore you with the other various stories riddled through my families life. I will just say it was bad, really bad. Whether you believe me or not is up to you.

I choose to believe in what I said before. Regardless of how you or any other person pictures it. Whether they feel it's unrealistic or not I think that I have been through and watched people go through enough trouble to realize that there is a way out.

The word "impossible" is created so people that "can't" do or achieve something, it makes it so they can lie to themselves and make themselves feel better. There's always a possibility no matter how remote. Always a variable that you can't account for. That is what makes life interesting, that's what makes it worth living. To go through the days believing in something better. I don't mean to sound religious because I don't believe in anything (as far as religion goes). Although I am not an atheist either. I believe in self belief, in the knowledge that with every step we put forward is one more step to wherever we are going. You just gotta be willing to take that step.

[talin]

Actually I changed my signature a few days ago and it answers your question.

Then what does my signature say?

...Fuck.

O.O

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yeah i wasn't telling you to kill yourself either, i was telling you that this is probably the worst place to find support. noone knows you here, and some of us have our dicks out while posting

honestly I rather not talk about it on a porn forum.

tbh, if you had you dick out looking for porn, you wouldn't be in this section really, or at least not in this topic. I've seen topics and conversations on this site that have nothing to do with any kind of pornography, in fact that is a very common occurrence. It's mostly adults talking about shit most people consider too taboo to talk about. true you have every right not to want to tell people you've never met face to face about your more personal areas but this forum is generally mature enough to handle it. Just take a look at this thread itself! We had one guy basically troll here and even he decided to be a bit intelligent about it. Everyone else is genuinely reaching out and trying to help someone in need. We've got various ideas running around and people are expressing their opinions without any real fear. Even the RP forum is starting to get a few RPs that are more about emotions and non perverted fantasies and that section is notorious for it's smut second to the creative sections dedicated to it. Just saying, people on here aren't just horn dogs looking for porn, we are all mature and we've shown it time and time again.