NovusPeregrine Wrote:<snip>
The Next Update:
Alright. So...read this through all the way please, if you read this section at all. The game is still being developed, and will continue to be! However, Eros Academy hasn't really produced much interest in the adult game community. The handful of Patrons I have are amazing. But, aside from their pledges, I've struggled to get even the most basic feedback from...well, pretty much anyone. This is incredibly disheartening given the amount of time I have to pour into the game to produce updates the size I have been. As a result, the APRIL update (the next update not this one), will be my last monthly update unless interest picks up. Wait! Don't run yet! When this change happens, IF it happens, I'm planning to flip my Patreon Page over to a "per creation" setup. This will allow me to take 2-3 months for an update of similar size to the current ones, without costing my lovely supporters a penny more for the same size content packages. Moreover, IF I do this, I will be altering the Private/Public release schedule so that the public release is always one full update behind, rather than an arbitrary two weeks.
As for the exact content of the next update, that will be subject to a poll of my Patrons that will be going up in the next couple of days.
lostone2 Wrote:NovusPeregrine Wrote:<snip>
Regarding this, two things. I don't have a Patreon myself, but I had heard in UMLF (sorry I'm unable to find the reference now) that there is/was some kind of bug regarding changing the setup between monthly and per creation, so I would suggest that you contact with Patreon support before taking that step, just in case.
Regrading feedback, I think that you are a victim of the high number of games that keep appearing in these forums (and other similar) in the last months. For myself, your game doesn't call me because:
-In general I dislike dating Sims, because I have serious issues relating to that kind of games (nothing that you can about that, sorry).
-I'm at my point of saturation with 3D graphics (yours are not bad but not great either: you're probably in the middle). That's particularly relevant because I feel that the story is not the strongest point of this game, as is more of an excuse to explore various aspects of the human sexuality. Nothing wrong with that, but I'm unsure is that will keep your players in the long run. In that sense, you're probably better by prioritizing the porn.
-Many, many players are starting to get very wary of new Patreon projects, specially by new (and unknown) authors: don't take it personally as it has nothing to do with you. You will be taken more seriously if you don't mention the Patreon thing in your OP (of course a completed game will give you a much better position).
There are potentially other sites that you could post your game to: ULMF (it's possible that you're already there but I don't think so), Hongfire but I think that your game could potentially fit in the New Lagoon forums.
Good luck with your project and I hope that this will help you, even if just a little bit.
tontoman Wrote:Well on the the feedback point, you might have stated the reason yourself. It's not awesome, and it doesn't suck, so you're not going to get either of those poster types posting... which are the two most common things that get people to post (sadly for the suck part).
The art style as mentioned could be called the standard now. And it's pretty down the middle so can't really comment there. I can't give advice on how to make them cuter. Kudoes to at least being realistic, so tired of the balloon breasts.
Couldn't comment on story... as the game isn't far enough along yet to comment on anything. You posted your intentions, but not enough in to judge. Same with the RPG progression. The game has a wide start as opposed to a long one. Lots of options at the begining, but none going very far. Which gives a brief taste of the fetish list you have, but nothing on progression and the gameplay. You see lots of demos start with one line, or multiple lines with all but one shut down, and have invested the demo time into travelling down the one path to show how game progression works. Easier to do depending on game mechanics.
Probably also suffering a bit of jack of all trades, master of none. So any BIG fan of one or two of the fetishes in your list, will have their enthusiasm tempered by knowing it's one of many (so limited content, and even moreso to what's showing in game). So no "omg great, it's an XXX game which is my fav" posts.
And maybe because it's a dating sim(ish), and a mild one when looking at design. From the vibe I get playing these games and from the forums the usual is either the protagonist is in control or not (with some variation to how much it can go wrong). So either going around inflicting situations onto people, or having them inflicted on themselves. Typical example the innocent woman who's lost everything, takes a waitress job in a bar, get molested and goes down from there etc.. Or the guy (of course) through magical powers, money or whatever gets to control and plow all the women around him. Pretty binary.
I'm personally getting bored of that, I'd prefer a mix where if you screw up you get a taste of your own medicine if even just for a particular NPC or two, but then again I stopped playing Assassins Creed at #2 and they've made how many.... so what do I know heh.
From your 1.3 description you might have some of that with academy outcomes effecting stats, the sub/dom not being whole determined by the player. But again as it's only just coming out couldn't comment on it. Post release hopefully you'll get more feedback.
Only thought I have is folks to seem to like global effects. So might help if a widening Dom/Sub stat effects not just the two? NPC who you date, but scenes or dialog in the academy. Will make the folks who like being globally taking control or falling down the hole happier. eg. getting spanked in one scene and carrying the red butt over to another. But one of the reasons it's not that common or fleshed out, it's a pain in the ass (pun intended) to code.. keeping track of stats/effects and dialog variations. And that's also where having so many fetishes becomes difficult if you were to do so. If this was a spanking sim say... you'd just have to keep an eye on butt status heh. But even Bethesda has trouble doing it. All those lame ass Skyrim quests. "I'm the Dragon Born, acknowledge me assholes!!"
Good luck.
BTW. Kudos (in my personal preference anyway heh) for having realistic people (no balloon tits), F/F for the main characters (tired of Mdom/Fsub regardless of who's the PC), and having it not set to either/or for a Sub/Dom PC... even though I wouldn't say it helped your cause for getting a fan base.
Briheas Wrote:You have lots of mechanics, but those mechanics don't seem to fit into the larger goal of the game. If this is supposed to be like a dating sim (which I gather only from your description in this thread - there is nothing in-game which indicates to me that this is supposed to be the overall goal of the game), then how do the various mechanics help me to achieve this goal? And if they don't/aren't going to, why are they even in the game in the first place?
For example, the fitness mechanic only seems to be useful in fitness events, but doesn't seem to influence or be necessary to romance other characters. If that's the case, then why should I even bother with increasing fitness? If it has no impact on achieving the goal of the game, why should I go out of my way and raise it?
Now, perhaps you intend these mechanics will become relevant later on, as you add more content. But so far, either in-game or in this thread, there doesn't seem to be any indication of any plans to do so. I think you should tie these mechanics back together so they form a cohesive game. Right now, each mechanic feels like they're their own separate island, each existing for their own sake rather than to further the main goal.
FMC Wrote:But before I download the new public release, I will say that the dominance / submissive trait was one thing that majourly got me into this game when I first checked it out. It seemed like a game where you could actually become submissive, not just over time, but also to an actual *place,* if that makes sense? For a bit of what I mean, have you heard of Shield High? It's a little more focused than this game; if you haven't heard of it, it's about trying to survive in a lesbian school where you can enslave or be enslaved. There's no real 'submissive' stat, it's one or the other, but your choices have impacts over the rest of the game. That's what I meant when I said you feel like your stats (at least the dominant /submissive part) feel like it's part of the world, rather than just something to say 'Oh, you reached 50 dominance, you can now act in xxx scene.' Sure, it'll probably work at least partly like that, but it'll feel... natural, I suppose is the term, since you have the rest to go with it.
Anyway, enough rambling, time to check out the new update.
EDIT: Well, after checking it out, I think it's going in the right direction. Can't wait for more submissive stuff to make it in. Maybe with some bondage now. xD I also forgot to mention I love the fact they have decently sized breasts. I hate big sizes in games, but mostly because I'm a flat chest myself. xD I like seeing flat-chested woman get it since I can easily imagine myself there. xD Also, spamming "Let Michael Lead" gives you like -5 % dominance until the new scene starts, which gives -1% or something. So I just spammed him to get my dominance down. Didn't even know about that other scene. After all, I'd rather be the one locked up as a public use slut than using one.
FMC Wrote:Just a question, though. I know you said you wouldn't add actual rape to the game, but I was wondering something: With a low enough submission stat, would there be a chance for 'Role-play rape?' As in, you can do a scenario where you would get 'raped,' but it's all consensual and it's just a fantasy simulation, if that makes sense? I would understand if you say no to that, but it would be a way to add something like that (which I would enjoy personally) but still not be actual rape. Plus, with all the types of simulations that could be run at the academy, it would make sense if something like that was in it -- of course, there'd be a safeword and everything (or maybe something else if there ends up gags in it) -- and with the rules of the academy you already put in, there wouldn't be a chance of it going 'too far.'
I dunno, something you could think about, at the very least. If I wasn't such a penny pincher (since I don't make very much money), I'd definitely support the ten dollar tier.
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File "game/script.rpy", line 1491, in script
jump NonVolBlow
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Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 1491, in script
jump NonVolBlow
File "C:\Users\Robert\Downloads\ErosAcademy-1.3-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1527, in execute
rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
File "C:\Users\Robert\Downloads\ErosAcademy-1.3-pc\renpy\script.py", line 858, in lookup
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ScriptError: could not find label 'NonVolBlow'.
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Eros Academy 1.3
NovusPeregrine Wrote:...I'm really not sure where you failed to see the dating sim stuff, at least in the current build. The relationship building with a few characters (mainly Lily) has been there for a few, and the current 1.3 build allows you to take her on a first date.
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