[RMMV] A Demacian Rising - RPG featuring Sona, Ahri, Kata...

[Mole Studio]

After a long break, we are finally back with a brand new game! It's longer, with a better story and larger cast. And unlike ANWS it will have several updates to extend the story !

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Rozarin & Gantai

[Darthjake]

Rozarin's art looks good, I especially like the "Last of Us" Ellie she's got on Hentai Foundry.

How often will free content be updated after your patreons test / play it?

The concept looks good on paper, (okay okay, blog), but I'd like to see how the game is played too, so don't keep us on the dark too long before you release a demo.

Note: I just now saw the download links but discounted it because it took me to an ad page, rather then a direct download.....

Thanks and Good Luck.

[Akkin]

Note: I just now saw the download links but discounted it because it took me to an ad page, rather then a direct download.....

Thanks and Good Luck.

It's from the pub, you pass, you pass, you pass and hop! You get on Mediafire, but since you do not want to do it, I'm nice to get you the direct link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/cnw86d21l ... a+0.13.zip

[N_Yah]

Ah geez, I was actually really excited to see this! I enjoyed ANWS and was wondering if there'd be anything more coming from you guys. It was cute, light hearted and the art was good. This seemed to be following the same lines...

... And then we take a massive swing straight into NTR? And I'm sitting here listening to Sona fucking some other guy?

Talk about a tonal shift, bit of a shock and quite a disappointment for someone who's not into that, especially in such a blatant way and especially with the MC being established as being obsessed with Sona to that point. Quit out at that point, but I'll probably come back to it and see how the rest is, maybe not quite as bad.

EDIT: Slight update, if you talk to the two guards from the wrong angle (beside the left one) the game locks up because the other one can't make it to stand beside his buddy.

[Darthjake]

It's from the pub, you pass, you pass, you pass and hop! You get on Mediafire, but since you do not want to do it, I'm nice to get you the direct link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/cnw86d21l ... a+0.13.zip

Much appreciated, I despise most ads, will give it a go in a bit.

[Mole Studio]

Rozarin's art looks good, I especially like the "Last of Us" Ellie she's got on Hentai Foundry.

How often will free content be updated after your patreons test / play it?

The concept looks good on paper, (okay okay, blog), but I'd like to see how the game is played too, so don't keep us on the dark too long before you release a demo.

Note: I just now saw the download links but discounted it because it took me to an ad page, rather then a direct download.....

Thanks and Good Luck.

We want to realease an update per month, with a 7days early access for patrons. Ad-free link is available for every patrons starting 1$.

Note: I just now saw the download links but discounted it because it took me to an ad page, rather then a direct download.....

Thanks and Good Luck.

It's from the pub, you pass, you pass, you pass and hop! You get on Mediafire, but since you do not want to do it, I'm nice to get you the direct link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/cnw86d21l ... a+0.13.zip

I we don't give a direct link, there is a reason... Direct links are for our patrons :/

Ah geez, I was actually really excited to see this! I enjoyed ANWS and was wondering if there'd be anything more coming from you guys. It was cute, light hearted and the art was good. This seemed to be following the same lines...

... And then we take a massive swing straight into NTR? And I'm sitting here listening to Sona fucking some other guy?

Talk about a tonal shift, bit of a shock and quite a disappointment for someone who's not into that, especially in such a blatant way and especially with the MC being established as being obsessed with Sona to that point. Quit out at that point, but I'll probably come back to it and see how the rest is, maybe not quite as bad.

EDIT: Slight update, if you talk to the two guards from the wrong angle (beside the left one) the game locks up because the other one can't make it to stand beside his buddy.

A lot of feedback was about how plain was ANWS and about the total lack on an interesting relationship between the MC and Sona. So we decided to work on a more serious project with a better story, a story taking place in Demacia. And because the MC is entering Sona's world, she need to have a life and something that make him an intruder in her world. Sadly, in this world the "some other guy" is you... But as the story progress, you will learn more details and Sona and the MC can start interacting together again and take time to get to know eachother as people, and not a guy and a Video Game Character ^^ That's not a dream anymore, reality is harsher :/ Last thing, if the MC was so much on Sona, including new characters was just impossible. xD

[N_Yah]

A lot of feedback was about how plain was ANWS and about the total lack on an interesting relationship between the MC and Sona. So we decided to work on a more serious project with a better story, a story taking place in Demacia. And because the MC is entering Sona's world, she need to have a life and something that make him an intruder in her world. Sadly, in this world the "some other guy" is you... But as the story progress, you will learn more details and Sona and the MC can start interacting together again and take time to get to know eachother as people, and not a guy and a Video Game Character ^^ That's not a dream anymore, reality is harsher :/ Last thing, if the MC was so much on Sona, including new characters was just impossible. xD

Absolutely agree, and that's why it was a bit of a surprise to see it was a sequel to ANWS, rather than a new property, since, as you say, with the guy being so obsessed with Sona, it's hard to imagine him then wanting to have some fun with the other women.

Personally, I would'a thought it'd be better making a whole new property and leaving ANWS as a fun stand-alone project, but I can understand wanting to build on a property you've already completed and expanding it into something else.

The issue I have is that you've taken something that's entirely pandering (Look, it's Sona! Come to visit her biggest fan!) and then you're continuing it in a way that continues that (Hey, she missed you that much!)... And then we suddenly swing into hard NTR. It's not just that she's married, or that she's (mostly) happily married, it's the whole scene of you sitting there listening to her having sex. That's a massive, massive tonal shift. You're building on a fun-pandering concept and going right to a cruel/harsh one. I just wonder if we could have had the same setup with her perhaps having a fiance that's pressuring her into marriage/a relationship and your goal being to prevent that, rather than ruin a marriage.

With the setup we've got, I'd much rather see our MC actually move on from his Sona obsession and find someone else, rather than (after the plot twist where her husband is evil) breaking her marriage up and "saving" her. She's happy. He didn't get what he wanted. Time to move on, if nothing else it's character growth and it continues the cruel/harsh twist you've got in the other direction (that being, ultimately neither of them get pure happy endings, but both are okay).

[Mole Studio]

Absolutely agree, and that's why it was a bit of a surprise to see it was a sequel to ANWS, rather than a new property, since, as you say, with the guy being so obsessed with Sona, it's hard to imagine him then wanting to have some fun with the other women.

Personally, I would'a thought it'd be better making a whole new property and leaving ANWS as a fun stand-alone project, but I can understand wanting to build on a property you've already completed and expanding it into something else.

The issue I have is that you've taken something that's entirely pandering (Look, it's Sona! Come to visit her biggest fan!) and then you're continuing it in a way that continues that (Hey, she missed you that much!)... And then we suddenly swing into hard NTR. It's not just that she's married, or that she's (mostly) happily married, it's the whole scene of you sitting there listening to her having sex. That's a massive, massive tonal shift. You're building on a fun-pandering concept and going right to a cruel/harsh one. I just wonder if we could have had the same setup with her perhaps having a fiance that's pressuring her into marriage/a relationship and your goal being to prevent that, rather than ruin a marriage.

With the setup we've got, I'd much rather see our MC actually move on from his Sona obsession and find someone else, rather than (after the plot twist where her husband is evil) breaking her marriage up and "saving" her. She's happy. He didn't get what he wanted. Time to move on, if nothing else it's character growth and it continues the cruel/harsh twist you've got in the other direction (that being, ultimately neither of them get pure happy endings, but both are okay).

We wanted to make a game about Demacia and then we had these ideas about Sona... So since we already worked on Sona, we wanted to link the two projects. And that's because of that obsession I had to break this idea as soon as possible, so he can take some distance and think more about it.

I'm aware of that tonal shift and to be honest that was totally intended, I wanted to keep the tone of ANWS and then include elements that make the story more complex. The world of LOL is not that simple and during the game fun moments and more serious will alternate. This wedding is still hiding some secrets and I hope it will help to make the story denser. The problem with your idea is that's it's a bit cliché to me and to be honest, that was our first idea. That said, with so much negative feedback about the Sona part, I will try to lighten what I planned. xD

With the events of Update1 he realized that Sona has to be seen as a person, she is not a VG Character anymore and he can't just love here because he is a fanboy... That said, Sona is your only hope of going back in your world so you need to meet her again and then you will decide what to do. We are not in ANWS anymore and at the end the player only will decide the character he wants to end with. At least, we want to allow that. There is still something but the MC's obsession for Sona is part of the past. With the numerous potential waifus in the game we need this, our we will be unable to advance haha xD Will try to make my intentions clearer in update 2, and I hope people will understand ^^

[N_Yah]

We wanted to make a game about Demacia and then we had these ideas about Sona... So since we already worked on Sona, we wanted to link the two projects. And that's because of that obsession I had to break this idea as soon as possible, so he can take some distance and think more about it.

I'm aware of that tonal shift and to be honest that was totally intended, I wanted to keep the tone of ANWS and then include elements that make the story more complex. The world of LOL is not that simple and during the game fun moments and more serious will alternate. This wedding is still hiding some secrets and I hope it will help to make the story denser. The problem with your idea is that's it's a bit cliché to me and to be honest, that was our first idea. That said, with so much negative feedback about the Sona part, I will try to lighten what I planned. xD

With the events of Update1 he realized that Sona has to be seen as a person, she is not a VG Character anymore and he can't just love here because he is a fanboy... That said, Sona is your only hope of going back in your world so you need to meet her again and then you will decide what to do. We are not in ANWS anymore and at the end the player only will decide the character he wants to end with. At least, we want to allow that. There is still something but the MC's obsession for Sona is part of the past. With the numerous potential waifus in the game we need this, our we will be unable to advance haha xD Will try to make my intentions clearer in update 2, and I hope people will understand ^^

Oh absolutely. It's definitely a cliche idea, 100%. Having a Hero saving a woman from a forced marriage (at the last minute!) is definitely an expected trope. But then, having the girl he's obsessed with sucked out of his computer to be with him (for one night only) is just as cliche, and so is a hero being suddenly transported into a fantasy world (you can go right back to Mark Twain with that one, possibly even further). Hell, so is the Hero being able to have sex with someone like Ahri without issues. It's all pretty cliche and it's all pandering.

And that's not a bad thing. Many things are cliches because they work or because they can be good building blocks for stories. You don't have to follow them of course, and it's often good to make a concerted effort not to...

But, NTR is a pretty damn specific fetish and the idea of Your Character being NTR'd (rather than doing it) even more so. Having the game literally sit you down and listen to the woman you're interested in having sex with another guy is a big jump from pandering to a gut punch (and personally, I'd argue you took a bit of a cop out by having the MC not all that affected by it. He's got much more of an "Oh that sucks" attitude than the "WTF!? NO!" I'd expect from being forced to listen to the woman he loves with someone else, and then having her explain that she married him from her free will and is happily married).

So rather than a quest to save the woman he loves from a terrible fate, it's a quest to break up the (mostly) happy marriage of the woman he's obsessed with, after she turned down wanting to be with him and is quite happy sleeping with her husband the whole time. Unless you're going for a villainous hero route, you can see why that's not quite as compelling?

I assume there'll be a big twist where it turns out her husband is evil and he's got evil plans and we need to stop him, so it's all for the greater good, but ehhh, I'll see. Plus it then makes me consider, what about the rest of the story? We're seeing Katarina with Garen, which is great, a pairing that's pretty popular, but if we're gonna have the MC being NTR'd are we then gonna have him go around doing that to others? Stealing Kat from Garen, Ashe from Trynd etc, again, it's a pretty specific fetish.

Honestly, I'd think there'd be room for the guy just to grow on his mission. He's obsessed with Sona but realises that he only knows her as a game character, not as a person, he's got his quest to save her, but she's a distant figure and in the meantime Ahri needs him, so he makes compromises, and then more, and then... Things change, he moves past an obsession and grows up.

Anyhow, I'll stop going on about this because it's probably a pretty pointless argument (the plot being set and all), I just wanted to explain why I was so put off by Update 1, especially after the previous work. I do want to support this and after I came back to it I enjoyed the rest of it, I think the art is great and I'll look out for Update2 when it does drop, just perhaps, I'm not so interested in saving Sona from her happy marriage, especially when she wasn't all that concerned about it/the MC.

One final nitpick though: The aftermath of the Ahri sex scene didn't really make a whole lot of sense, that is, why was the MC so surprised by Ahri's reaction?

He knows Ahri (obviously) he's even probably pretty damn familiar with her (He had an Ahri-Sona body pillow). We know he follows the lore because he knows Sona's husband is non-canon and even if he only truly follows the Sona lore, you'd expect him to at least know the very basic things about the other characters, but he doesn't know anything about Ahri's story? About why she's feeding on humans and what happens to those she's with? It seemed very odd for him to be so surprised that she was surprised about his (unexplained) survival.

I think one of the strong points about this character is that he already (mostly/somewhat) knows all the people involved, Fiora doesn't have to introduce herself, we know her and he knows her, that kind'a thing. It gives him an advantage in this world and room to move... But instead it seems he doesn't know even the basics?

Anyhow, as I said, just a minor nitpick, not something to lose sleep about.