Lab Rats Current Public Release (v1.0, 27/11/17)

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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Wee » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:46 am

Here's a quick guide, for those playing version 0.2.1a.

I haven't played through all of the events, but this should give you a good start on things...

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

Show up for work at the campus lab in the afternoon. EVERY Weekday/Monday-Friday, you need the money.
- at the lab, make sure you ask Nora for access to the online journals as soon as this option comes up. This helps you unlock the syrums
- that night, use the internet at home to read the online biology journals. This gives you the formula.
- Next afternoon, work/try to make syrum. This'll give you your first blue syrum.
- keep making syrums every afternoon until Nora catches you (fun event here)
- Whenever the lab is empty in the afternoon, IMMEDIATELY search Nora's desk. You may find the electronic door code for the lab (to get morning/night access when Steph and Nora aren't there)...
- chatting with Nora and Steph instead of working/making syrum may trigger an event. Keep 2 syrums handy for this.
Once you've made your first blue syrum, try to catch Stephanie in the lab in the mornings. She has some more stuff online that you can look over.
- Also, chat with Stephanie in the mornings after you've made some blue syrum. She'll 'catch' you at something, this helps unlock an event. Later, she can help you make Red Syrum
- Visiting Nora at the Lab in the evenings may unlock an event for you if you chat with her.
- if you have the electronic door code, and Nora isn't there, you can make blue and later on purple syrums at night.
Home stuff
- Visiting with Sis - random chance you'll go to to the movies, or doing something fun...
- Saturday & Sunday nights - Watch a movie with mom. If you have a syrum handy, don't find lily. If you have 2 syrums handy, find lily...
- Haven't done the Nora & mom event yet so I have no tips on that one.
- Keep some cash onhand for Monday fun with mom, if you like having her service you...
- Saturday/Sunday mornings are the only time you can buy lab supplies (for Purple & Red syrums). $100/dose, you can buy 1, 3, or 5 doses worth of supplies.
- There are random night events at home. Keep some syrum handy for those.
Alex and Steph events
Eating at the cafeteria with a syrum in hand unlocks a 'visit the lab' event for Alex.
Doing the cafe thing with Alex with a syrum in hand ulnocks an outdoor event for Alex
Chatting with Steph sets you up for some Sunday tennis...

Cell Phone #'s
Chatting with the gals may open up the option to get Nora's, Steph's, and Alex's #. Text them for possible additional events...

On the events:
The major events are tiered. Keep in mind that Blue syrum has no bonuses, Purple has +15, and Red has +30. So, roughly, if you haven't partied with a gal yet, do tier 1 if blue, maaaaybe tier 2 if purple, and maaaaybe tier 3 if red, as a guide. Tiers 2 and 3 often have >15 or >30 sluttiness, so you may need a little more besides the purple or red unless you've already spent time with them. Tiers 4 and 5 will usually be out of your reach, unless you've managed to raise her sluttiness with another event.

Bad news. Many events lock out after you've successfully completed one of the tiers in that event/are not repeatable.
Good news. If you 'shoot too high', you won't complete the event, BUT you will get a +5 to the sluttiness of the gal you are trying to have naked fun time with, and in some cases can try again next time. Soooo, you can 'blow' those blue syrums on unsuccessful events/high tiers to raise her sluttiness, and go for an 'attainable' tier once you've raised their sluttiness a bit.

That's all I can think of for now.

Things that aren't implemented yet
Lily's room. Don't look through her stuff when she's not there - doesn't do anything for you (yet)
Watching porn. Doesn't do anything but pass the time.
Resting - same deal, not implemented yet.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Sun Quan » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:39 am

Looks like a lot of us registered just to reply to this thread... Hi!

So far I've got to say I'm impressed by the game considering how new it is. There's obviously a lot of thought being put into it and a lot of room for new content down the line.

The character models are well done, sexy, and diverse enough to be interesting. I'm not completely sold on the character models being placed on the sides of the game window. I think it'd be more attractive to place them in the center of the screen or slightly off center with space for multiple models at once for threesome content. As of right now there are very few background images and since the location options are limited it can get a bit monotonous having to glance to either side to see the pretty women, especially during the adult content. If you placed the choice options further down the screen, say bottom aligned with the "Red Syrum" and "Stephanie" entries, there'd be enough room to see the character models above. Since there's already a feature to clear the UI for taking screenshots text overlays shouldn't be a big issue and the player's attention can focus on what they're REALLY interested in.

The storyline is fun and engaging, especially for fans of hypnosis / suggestion / mind control kinks. I like the added realism in those quests that show that the player character's actions aren't being completely overlooked by his co-workers. I definitely wouldn't complain if there were more times where the player could potentially get into trouble and have to find a way to use the serums to get out of it. There's also plenty of room for an eventual breakthrough in the work they're doing that could change the player's circumstances, though I don't know how far into that aspect of the game we're going to be heading.

As far as the quests themselves, I have to agree with what a lot of the posters in this thread have already said. While I understand that it's no fun to have the game handed to one on a platter, some structure might be handy. Since I started the game blindly without any information beyond the description and the help sections in the game itself, I wound up fumbling around and came across Major Events (i.e. unrepeatable ones) much earlier than I think is intended. Not being able to get any appreciable progress with the women in those Major Events limited my Influence gain with them and pretty much locked me out of the more sexual content with them. While that's fine (and good for replay value) it left me with a disappointed / confused feeling, like I'd missed something or that there was still content ahead when in reality I'd pretty much missed the boat.

After reading a lot of the comments here I almost get the feeling that I came across content backwards, getting events sooner than I should have. I'll put this stuff in spoilers just in case. EVENT SPOILERS, AHOY! DON'T CLICK IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM A SECRET!

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

- First off, I never did find out how to make purple serums. I had blues for over 45 days, I'd say. I think this probably really hampered my efforts during events and since there aren't that many it pretty much screwed me for most of them. How do you unlock purple?

- I hardly got anywhere with Mom that I could tell. I got her influence up to 25 by giving her part of my money every week then watching movies with her. Sadly, I only had blue serums, so I couldn't really influence her to do anything other than take off her top. The first movie she went topless and the second time with Lily it was the same. It was enough to unlock her offering to give me services every Monday for extra cash but her influence gain completely stopped. Also, since I was by this time blowing most of my money on chemicals for red serums and once the tennis rental I didn't really get to take advantage of her services, so it felt kinda wasted. The most she offered was a HJ with a choice of where to finish, by the way. I'm uncertain if that's the furthest she'll offer or if the choices were limited due to her Influence.

- One of the first events I got in the game was going to the movies with Lily. From what I've read in this thread I seem to have hit the jackpot since a lot of people don't seem to ever get this event. Sadly, it happened so early in the game that all I was able to do was get her to flash me her boobs for a bit. After that the only other event with her was the movie with Mom where they dropped their tops since all I had were blue serums. There was no change in the character models for this event, I should mention. It said they dropped their tops but nothing showed. I interrupted her a couple of times when she was bending over searching for something but all that happened was she got startled and hit her head. She ended up with an Influence of 21.

- The only girl I felt I really got the most out of was Alexia. The first event I got was taking her to the coffee house, where I gave her a blue serum and got her to make out with me. The second time was going to the mall with her over the weekend, where once again all I had was a blue serum and got her to strip for me in the dressing room. The third time was the study session event, where I gave her blues again and got her to strip and give the neighbors a show out my window... which was weird because it was at night and people were mowing their lawns. The last time I FINALLY had a red serum to give her and I took her to the lab where I was able to have sex with her... which seemed to jump over a lot of in-between steps. I dunno, maybe I wasn't aggressive enough in my suggestions with her. Her Influence was about 63 by the end.

- Stephanie took me a long time to figure out since I was spending a lot of time hanging out at home talking to Lily or trying to go on dates with Alexia in the mornings. I was well into the game before I tried going to the lab and finding her there alone, hence the delay in getting any red serums. Since it WAS late in the game I made decent progress with her, sorta. My first encounter with her, sadly, was the threesome with Nora and the most I was able to get them to do with the blue serums was get them to make out. Wasted event, really. Later on when I started visiting her more regularly in the mornings I got her to do a striptease dance when I spiked her iced coffee with a blue. Finally at the tennis practice I got her to masturbate with her racket. That was all I was able to accomplish with her and she ended up with an Influence of about 55, I think.

- Nora ended up being the woman I worked on first, which was probably a mistake. The first event I got with her was the night time awards dinner and all I got her to do with the blue serum was take off her top. The next event I got was the one where she caught me making blue serums and I got her to drink one. Since this was way early in the game and I hadn't had success getting her to be daring I made her flash me her boobs again. The last event was the one with Stephanie that I mentioned above. She ended up with an Influence of 35 with not much to show for it.

- Never got whatever night time event is supposed to occasionally happen with the Mom or Lily. It didn't occur to me to go to sleep at night rather than trying to talk with Mom or text Alexia or Stephanie to try to make something happen. Is this repeatable for Influence and / or possible sexual encounters?

- Never got Nora to come over the house, nevermind interact with Mom. I'm guessing her Influence never got high enough. I got her cell number but nothing came of it. At the moment I'm guessing the middle Text option where you ask her for Biology study help leads to her visiting your house but she was always too busy.


As I said, it was fun playing through the story but I definitely felt as though I'd missed out on a lot since I didn't have a structure or timeline to follow and didn't realize until much later that certain events were one time only and that content (and thus my opportunities) are limited for the time being. While the available options made me definitely want to keep going for more, the lackluster progress with blue serums and the lack of chances to make up for missed opportunities left me disappointed.


PROS:
- Attractive looking game, decent UI
- Beautiful character models
- Engaging storyline with room for ongoing content, enough going on that it doesn't feel like an empty world with just the player and the babes
- The ability to minimize the UI and take screencaps in-game
- Nice influence / corruption scaling mechanic so that it doesn't seem ridiculously unrealistic when the women agree to do things
- Back button is an excellent idea and much nicer than having to save and reload when making decisions or clicking the wrong option by mistake
- The Events showed imagination and weren't limited to the locations the majority of the game takes place in

CONS:
- The Event system is a bit rigid and unforgiving since there's a lack of repeatable (or even non-repeatable) content. [Will probably improve when more content is available]
- Without a guide or timeline of some kind it feels as though it's too easy to make the wrong decisions, or at least ones that are overly conservative
- Character models are too far off to the sides of the screen / lack of locations makes the available backgrounds monotonous
- At the moment there are too many options that lead to dead ends and one can waste a LOT of time clicking them and getting nowhere [Maybe add more "Placeholder" labels until this Event content is added?]


There's probably more I could add but this post's already enormous. I hope some of this input can be helpful to you, vrengames, but please don't feel shy about telling me to shut my pie hole if I'm off base about where you want to take the game. Have to say, it's nice seeing a game dev taking such an active stance on interacting with people trying their game out. You're doing a hell of a job and I'm very much looking forward to where you take Lab Rats in the (hopefully near) future. :)
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby KingsRaiden » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:12 pm

I like the texting option with the girls, and I was surprised to see that it actually opened up scenes. I didn't think it was active yet.

In the future I hope it opens up other scenes depending on who you text with, and the relationship level with the girl. Well, except for Mom, you don't really seem to need to do that with her. ;)
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby vrengames » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:08 am

@Sun Quan
Hi! Glad you enjoyed the game and took the time to reply! Don't feel the need to shut your pie hole at all, any and all feedback is incredibly useful to me!

I'm currently working on v0.3, which should be released Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning this week. It will add something like 25 new "minor" scenes to the game, along with adding images to all of the "major" scenes already included in v0.2.1. That should provide a big chunk of content to roam around and find, and clear out a lot of the placeholder locations (although not all of them, still a ton of work to do). I'm also going to be tweaking the influence gain a little to make everything easier to reach while I get more major scenes into the game. Also, not finding any events with Mom or Lily at night is my fault, I found the bug causing it a few days ago and it'll be fixed for v0.3 (Same with the "Missed work reduction never goes away" bug, if you ran into that one).

@KingsRaiden
Glad you're enjoying the game too. There are a few minor scenes being added in v0.3 that expand a little on the texting system. In addition, I've got plans for a major visual update to it (and a bunch of other stuff) in the v0.4 update. Stay tuned for that, I'm sure you'll like the new stuff!
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby KingsRaiden » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:24 pm

Cool to hear! Definitely sounds good, the models are nice and being able to have multiple encounters just makes it more fun!
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby vrengames » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:55 am

v0.3.0 has just been released to my $5 patrons for testing, and the improved public version (v0.3.1) will be released this time next week to everyone for free! v0.3 includes 25 minor scenes, all with multiple levels depending on your influence with the girls. Total, it adds something like 20 000 words of dialog and doubles the number of images used in the game, and includes fixes to the bugs found in v0.2.1. I edited the OP here to include some screen shots from the new version, I hope you like them!
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Jinz » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Gotta say, its really a very interesting and arousing game project. And i think we can definitely see the effort put into this game. Nice one.

PROS
- Beautiful graphics, sexy and arousing enough
- Well thought character fittings
- Interesting dialogues and event
- Very smooth game play with all the settings and intended information.
- Easy to navigate.

CONS
- Events too random at times, causing lots of replay and confusion
- Too many hidden events, though its fun but there's a limit to time and there's no hints.

My comments are pretty simple, just feel that the randomness of events is a HUGE addon but at the same time if its overdone, it can be a turn off.
I pretty much played a few times and i never score over 90 for NORA, not sure if its implemented yet.
I think would be good to reduce randomness of event or maybe even trigger some repeated ones for extra points.
For example, random events give points too but a much lesser add, maybe from 1 - 5 points, etc.
Its like, i managed to get the part when you surf porn and the mom walks in to let you do her but in common sense, shouldnt the score go up by abit everytime you do her?
Major events for major points while minor random events for a small add.

Whats the highest score so far implemented?
my score would be
Mom : 80+
Lily : Can reach up to 100+
Alexia : 100+
Stephaine : 100+
Nora : 90
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby LordMana » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:54 pm

Loveing the game so far keep up the good work. My only thought is maybe add the option to use one of each color serum for each of the repetable scenes for instance the movie scene with mom on weekends where you can use the blue one night the next night purple then red. would that be possible?
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Darthjake » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:12 am

I used the blue serum as soon as I could and it seems like I'm not getting the chance to use the purple or red now that I've made it, did you wait and use the purple or red instead of the blue?
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Wee » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:21 am

LordMana Wrote:Loveing the game so far keep up the good work. My only thought is maybe add the option to use one of each color serum for each of the repetable scenes for instance the movie scene with mom on weekends where you can use the blue one night the next night purple then red. would that be possible?

I'm sure that Vren will chime in here. What you proposed is certainly possible, although it would take some effort to code something like this for all of the events.

The repeatable major event thing has been suggested a few times.

Something that I proposed was somewhat along these lines. Essentially, if you were using purple serum, you could knock out 2 'tiers' of an event, or if you were using a red, you could knock out 3 tiers, assuming that your influence level with that gal was high enough for that tier level. Also, every time you'd advance a tier, the purple or red syrums would lose some of their potency (i.e. reduced bonus). This would be a bit harder to code, particularly dialogue wise, as you'd need to track clothing states and such. It kind of doesn't make sense to have everyone get dressed, just to have them undress again...

I think that Vren is planning to use the 'shotgun' approach to events instead, i.e. making sure that there will be enough events in future builds that you won't necessarily 'miss' the other ones. The current storyline/game backstory discourages using serums more than once in any given situation as 'it may may have the opposite effect than what you intended'.

Something I'd like to see in future builds is a bit more anticipation for some of the events that have been added into 0.3.0. Vren has mentioned that once more content is added that a few 'goalposts' will be moved back, so that certain events don't pop up as quickly (I'm specifically thinking of the nekkid lab AC thing... that seemed 'early' to me). Adjusting how often/quickly some of these events show up would help make this feel less random, and more like you are 'building' relationships instead of just having random sex throughout the game.

Vren has mentioned that, once more content is added, that certain events will not show up as quickly, as other events/stuff will 'take their place'.

Small spoilers:
Spoiler (click to show/hide):

One thing I will share is that resting on campus now has stuff associated with it in the midgame... it didn't do anything before. Same for watching porn, stuff might happen...

Also, for those looking for the lab code, someone else now has it. The other person now has a different thing... I ended up not finding it because I was looking in the 'usual' place for quite a few days, but eventually figured it out. Just thought I'd share this so that anyone else doesn't get frustrated when they keep looking in the 'old' place.


Keep up the good work Vren!
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Darthjake » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:07 am

Meh, I should have guessed the Red was more potent then the purple as it takes Steph to help you make it, will have to try another playthrough and use the red on the girls.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby niche » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Created an account, just to ask this question :D

What on earth are the mom events? Found the night one in her room, and the movie one on weekend nights, but ive gone through 100 days twice, and cannot find any other events with her?
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Darthjake » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:19 pm

niche Wrote:Created an account, just to ask this question :D

What on earth are the mom events? Found the night one in her room, and the movie one on weekend nights, but ive gone through 100 days twice, and cannot find any other events with her?


Well besides the sex for more rent money, she'll also come to your bed like sis will, although I've not progressed to get her undressed like sis, maybe once I use the red serum, or we may just need to wait for more events to be coded.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Wee » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:52 pm

Darthjake Wrote:
niche Wrote:Created an account, just to ask this question :D

What on earth are the mom events? Found the night one in her room, and the movie one on weekend nights, but ive gone through 100 days twice, and cannot find any other events with her?


Well besides the sex for more rent money, she'll also come to your bed like sis will, although I've not progressed to get her undressed like sis, maybe once I use the red serum, or we may just need to wait for more events to be coded.


Keep asking Nora for Study help once you get her Cellphone #. Visit the lab at night after you have a bit of influence with Nora, and she may offer you her cell # if you don't have it already. The Kitchen is a fun place to study... If you've already invited Nora to your Bedroom, instead of studying in the kitchen, well that ship has sailed, but you'll have something to try for on your next playthrough.

Also, quick FYI for those that may have missed this. Purple has a +15 bonus, Red has a +30 bonus in encounters.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Darthjake » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:18 am

Ah cool, ty for the serum tip, I got the tennis encounter with Steph, but did not think to "study" with Nora.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby niche » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:05 pm

Wee Wrote:
Darthjake Wrote:
niche Wrote:Created an account, just to ask this question :D

What on earth are the mom events? Found the night one in her room, and the movie one on weekend nights, but ive gone through 100 days twice, and cannot find any other events with her?


Well besides the sex for more rent money, she'll also come to your bed like sis will, although I've not progressed to get her undressed like sis, maybe once I use the red serum, or we may just need to wait for more events to be coded.


Keep asking Nora for Study help once you get her Cellphone #. Visit the lab at night after you have a bit of influence with Nora, and she may offer you her cell # if you don't have it already. The Kitchen is a fun place to study... If you've already invited Nora to your Bedroom, instead of studying in the kitchen, well that ship has sailed, but you'll have something to try for on your next playthrough.

Also, quick FYI for those that may have missed this. Purple has a +15 bonus, Red has a +30 bonus in encounters.


I'm guessing that leads to a mom event in the kitchen with nora? Cool, thank you!

EDIT: Just a heads up, cause ive seen people comment differently (like above), but you can do the nora study scene and mom movie scene twice. To get both the single and threesome events.
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Darthjake » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:33 pm

Okay with the red serum and trying lots more options I got:

Mom : 120
Lily : 116
Nora : 140
Stephanie : 115
Alexia : 112

I had Mom and Lily do a titjob together, but never felt could fuck them both, might be worth repeating movie night together, or repeating a few of the scenes letting you unlock choices that you pushed past to get their influence higher. Not sure how many scenes you have planned atm, but rngjesus hates me I think I had to save and reload to get alot of the scenes and this last playthrough Steph and Alexia only visited me once each under the tree while I was napping.

And now that I know you can spike Alexia's popcorn while studying we should have even more chances to corrupt mom, although I eventually got her to go all the way in bed, and the $500 to give Lily the serum resulted in a great counter or throatjob scene. I like how in the throat scene she was even apologizing for getting you hard. The Nora / Steph / you threeway was fun especially if you cum in Steph's mouth, awesome ending there, and it just took alot of Nora being busy for her to finally come over after the bedroom study session to study in the kitchen and get relaxed enough for some wine. Was glad I had already had a solo movie night with mom for that scene.

All in all a solid game, some aspects could be just bad luck with rng, and the game still in development with more scenes to be added, but all in all, I love what you are doing and feel this will be even better as a finished product. Thank You!
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Re: Lab Rats Current Public Release (v0.3.1, 25/1/17)

Postby vrengames » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:50 am

v0.3.1 is out and available to the public! Compared to v0.2.1 it doubles the number of images in the game and adds over 25 000 lines of dialog, in addition to a number of bug fixes and spelling corrections.

Get it here: https://mega.nz/#!Q8Z2WYjL!21vDAC5HXL9K ... qkfa4ysR2c
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Re: Lab Rats Release (v0.2.1, 29/12/16)

Postby Wee » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:07 pm

niche Wrote:Created an account, just to ask this question :D

What on earth are the mom events? Found the night one in her room, and the movie one on weekend nights, but ive gone through 100 days twice, and cannot find any other events with her?


niche Wrote:
Wee Wrote:
Darthjake Wrote:Well besides the sex for more rent money, she'll also come to your bed like sis will, although I've not progressed to get her undressed like sis, maybe once I use the red serum, or we may just need to wait for more events to be coded.


Keep asking Nora for Study help once you get her Cellphone #. Visit the lab at night after you have a bit of influence with Nora, and she may offer you her cell # if you don't have it already. The Kitchen is a fun place to study... If you've already invited Nora to your Bedroom, instead of studying in the kitchen, well that ship has sailed, but you'll have something to try for on your next playthrough.

Also, quick FYI for those that may have missed this. Purple has a +15 bonus, Red has a +30 bonus in encounters.


I'm guessing that leads to a mom event in the kitchen with nora? Cool, thank you!

EDIT: Just a heads up, cause ive seen people comment differently (like above), but you can do the nora study scene and mom movie scene twice. To get both the single and threesome events.

Thanks for the tip niche!
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Re: Lab Rats Current Public Release (v0.3.1, 25/1/17)

Postby tbattr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:15 pm

You might try using answers instead of awnsers, just a hint, I like the way you are goung so far.
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