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Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:47 pm

Before all the drama started between the creators of Pokemon Evil, and Pokemorph, I had started working on fixing the grammar of the google translations Hunden was using for his game. I finished said fixes a little after the thread was locked, so I'm putting this here. All I've done is fix grammatical errors, and make it sound better to English speaking people.

I will admit, I got a little lazy 3/4 of the way through. I stopped doing the really long text chains. It's not many, but some scenes/really long chunks of text are still auto-translated messes, but most of them are in unfinished areas you'd need to cheat to access. I'd say, in a guess off the top of my head, 3-4 accessible scenes are untouched. I also left a few things untouched on purpose. Whether they just fit (like a cameo from Hunden himself) or I thought it was kinda funny (a guy not realizing his lucario is actually a riolu), I thought they were okay where they were.

I also added a couple Rayquaza pictures (to the folder, not to the game) I found on a random furry porn site I peruse from time to time, if anyone wants to do anything with that. I don't know if they're copyrighted, but since they were on a free site, and no one was ranting in any comments, I'm pretty sure it's fine.

Finally, I'm hoping someone'll pick this back up, if not Hunden (without stealing resources/breaking trust, of course), then someone with better writing skills than me, I don't like writing, really, but no one else was tackling the grammar mess that was auto-translate. Until then, Enjoy, I suppose.

(P.S. If it's an issue for anyone that I'm posting this, complain. A Mod or I will take it down. Whoever notices first.)

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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:14 pm

if you ask me i'd say thanks for helping and with the tension between dapper and hunden i'd say they just need some time to calm down and think of a salution where they both can be happy. most of it is cuz of the owners of pictures and stuff he used not wanting him to use their stuff anymore. if you ask me he can do better and i know cuz i worked with both for a bit and they helped me a few times. but- either way i'd show hunden.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:42 pm

That's mostly correct. The crew of Pokemorph did ask him not to use certain resources, but a big part, as well, is Hunden not listening when they told him not to use them.

Hunden Wrote:I do not fully understand that? Is it why I use images when I have not been allowed? That's because it's not illegal in my country. If I have read the law correctly, I may even use them even if they give me a no because it is non profit.


He's basically saying "You said not to touch them, but I want to, and I won't get in legal trouble since I'm not selling them, so I will." and he doesn't seem willing to listen. If he had just taken out the pictures Dapper had asked him to remove before it all went downhill, and been more respectful of the owners of said images, he wouldn't have been banned from using the resources.

I'm not saying he's the only one wrong in this situation, but he's definitely contributed a fair bit, be it stubbornness (continuing to ignore requests to stop)or anger(ranting and raving {oons oons oons}).

It's his game, so I'd love him to continue it. But if he doesn't want to/can't, I'd love to see some other person pick up this game and keep it going. Or a different game with similar themes. Evil Pokemon Protagonist is a fun idea that is rather under done.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:49 pm

that's not it... he did lision. and that's why he shut the game down see the engine and most of the pictures are shared and dapper did said he can use the OLD pictures and resorses. you gotta look at both points of view other wise your no better. see i think hunden just didn't want to wait for someone to say yes cuz he was afraid they'd keep saying no. i talked to him a while so i think i can clearly say he had some pride in the game even if he wasn't lisioning to the owners he wanted to allow them to say what they will and he did told them he'd remove anything they don't want him using but with dapper he's using ALOT of stuff shared with poke'morph/pink even so far as them closly being just copys of henti see if it was humbird0 saying this they both be this way.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby evildumdum » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:52 pm

Imma butt in here. The pokemon evil thread was locked in order to let the wounds heal a little before anything further happens. Please do not use this thread as a proxy for the argument. Everything that needs to be said has been said. Not that i'm accusing anyone of being argumentative, but i can see it gradually sliding that way.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:58 pm

well it seemed to me hunden is just a bit sad that most of his work is being flushed down the toliet and with his depression it's much worst then you can think
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:46 am

Sorry, wasn't trying to re-spark anything. Just commenting on his comment that happened to be about that. I wasn't going to go any further.

Also, on topic with the...well...topic. I found a couple issues I didn't notice while grammar fixing the game. First and foremost: Alolan Meowth event is a bit messed up. It changes the 'alolan_meowth' variable, when the hole to her lair uses the 'alolan_cat' variable. A simple change, for those who want to be able to get into the lair after the first time. Otherwise the hole closes forever after you leave her lair the first time.

Another small thing: The Jolteon pictures sold by Cynder in the 'Dragon's Lair' building are pointing to the wrong path. They point to 'front1.png' and 'horny1.png' which don't exist in the jolteon pictures folder. Easy fix, either by adding a 1 to the two pictures, which could cause problems to anything pointing at the correct path, copy/paste 'em and have both, or use game editor to change the path the event uses.

And finally, I found a few places I somehow overlooked for grammar fixing.

As I find these small things, I'm fixing them for myself. So at some point I might update the files with the fixes I'm putting in.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby AlphaGammaZX » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:45 pm

I honestly believe that someone should pick the game up and either put their own twist to it or just remake the whole thing. I think it's a good game but I wish there were updates to it so I could progress further into the game.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:19 am

I would...but I don't write beyond grammar fixes, and I can't draw to save my life...though I'd say I'm >SLIGHTLY< better than Hund, based on the art he's posted...very slightly...and by that I mean it'd look pretty much the same >.>...

The best I could do is open up some of the un-implemented stuff, which is pretty easy for anyone to do.

But I agree, someone, Hund, or other, should work on this, or a spin-off. Which would make it a spin-off of a spin-off of a spin-off...fun. I'd even be fine if it wasn't pornographic. I mainly play it for the nuance of the whole 'evil protagonist' idea. There's a few rom-hacks with the same theme, and they're unfinished, but mostly decent. You usually start as a new rocket grunt recruit and work your way up.

The one I'm playing now has an un-winnable (by which I mean he has a team of 6 20-30 pokemon when you likely haven't gotten much higher than 4-5 10-11.) fight with Red, I believe it is, and I'm currently grinding my butt off (in Mt.Moon. Such a slow grind after 10-ish :/). I take situations you're supposed to lose in as a challenge to win and see if it breaks the game in some way xP

Totally fell off topic, but I'm sure you get my point :P
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:44 pm

Ok, Note on Pokemon Evil's official status:

I've been in contact between Hunden, and Dapper for a little over a month at this point. I tried to figure out how they could make up and maybe start trusting each other again.

While Dapper has given his terms for thinking about another chance for Hunden, Hund has made it clear he probably won't do it. I tried.

Thus, in his latest PM to me, Hunden has said that he is probably going to let the game die. And, if he decides to work on a new game, it won't be on this site.

I wish him luck and success. If I read what he said wrong, I will let you know if he tells me otherwise. But from what I can see, what we have of Evil is what we get.

I will continue with bug/grammar fixes as I feel like it. Anyone who wants to can as well. That is all for now.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby AlphaGammaZX » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:24 am

my god this kid... if he doesn't get his way, he'll kick and scream until he gets it. I've lost a lot of respect for the guy. I REALLY hope now that someone would just make their version of this game and go with it or let Dapper make this an alternate time line or something added onto his game...

NCFancypants Wrote:Ok, Note on Pokemon Evil's official status:

I've been in contact between Hunden, and Dapper for a little over a month at this point. I tried to figure out how they could make up and maybe start trusting each other again.

While Dapper has given his terms for thinking about another chance for Hunden, Hund has made it clear he probably won't do it. I tried.

Thus, in his latest PM to me, Hunden has said that he is probably going to let the game die. And, if he decides to work on a new game, it won't be on this site.

I wish him luck and success. If I read what he said wrong, I will let you know if he tells me otherwise. But from what I can see, what we have of Evil is what we get.

I will continue with bug/grammar fixes as I feel like it. Anyone who wants to can as well. That is all for now.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby musical74 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:45 am

Given that Hunden has done the equivalent of a toddler having a temper tantrum, think this should be an *alternate version" of Dapper's game, or have someone unaffiliated create a new pokemon game. Letting the game die because he's mad bodes overly poor for Hunden, what's to stop him from doing it again?
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:42 am

for you guys info he gave me the "key" of evil. you can ask him why yourshelfs but i'm sure he would help me out if i ask.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:56 pm

Humadragon2016 Wrote:for you guys info he gave me the "key" of evil. you can ask him why yourshelfs but i'm sure he would help me out if i ask.


I won't question it. When I asked him to think about it and make a decision he won't regret, his options, as far as I could see, were 'Quit and let it die', 'Let someone take over', or 'Keep going.' I told him I'd post here to let you all know what he chose, or he could PM someone to give them permission.

So, it's possible.

If he HAS given you permission, just know you still need to remove the resources Dapper and his group asked to have removed. You have no more permission at the moment than Hund did. If you have the 'key' and want to open Evil up and continue, you'll have to remove their resources Or obtain their permission (probably not easy with what they just went through). Otherwise you'll end up in the same boat Hund did.

But if you want to work on it, I'll say good luck. I can't do much more than verbal/grammatical support.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:02 am

yea about that...i talked with dapper and he said it be fine to use them WHEN the game is done the whole bs with it is that they are still working and they don't want people to fuck with the game yet. so for now he said anything that is in the past is good but i would have to talk to the others if i want to use their stuff and the things that they made souly for the game is out. witch is fine with me i might just remake the game from the ground up but basicly what i am thinking of doing is making poke'mon evil be a part of the other game i am working on and he said he didn't mind if i putted him in as a tribute the old game. so for now i am able to somewhat use the stuff but i might just take a alot of the pictures out depending on witch way we go.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:19 am

That does line up with what Dapper has said, yes. For the most part, he's trying to keep the really special stuff for Pokemorph because he wants Pokemorph to be...well, special. It would ruin some people's experiences if everything they see in Pokemorph was already out in some other game. It's the surprises and uniqueness they want to keep.

I can see where they would let you use the stuff evil currently has. It was Hund they asked to remove it, and if you've been told you can use it, that means you have permission. What you do with it, now that Hund handed it over to you, is your choice. Make it a good one. (and let me know if you need grammar help. That's about the most I can really help with xP I know some of the game engine, since I had to fiddle with it for fixing the few bugs and grammar issues, but I'm not amazing.)

I'll probably, at some point, post a final grammar fix version, since there's still some events I ignored, and I noticed a few non-events I somehow missed. And I might fix a bug or two. But I think, for now, what we have is what we get. I'll keep checking back. After all, Evil wasn't the only game I was watching xP
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:50 am

cool thanks we might need a checker for the game cuz lord knows i'm not that good at spelling LMFAO

but right now i'm kinda wondering if i should unlock the old evil post and work on the old game as is or not cuz i don't want the thing to get crowed too fast you know i sent hunden a message about it to talk and see what i should do.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:33 pm

There's no real reason to start using the old one. It'd just make it really cluttered. You have the game, and you don't gain anything from using that thread. so I'd say just make your own.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby Humadragon2016 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:13 pm

well that's the thing we already did. tho- not on the right area right now (mostly cuz A. game's not even out as a demo yet. and B. don't really know how to change that yet :p) i'm just thinking of getting the data from the old game to build off of.
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Re: Pokemon Evil Grammar Fix

Postby NCFancypants » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:00 am

Humadragon2016 Wrote:i'm just thinking of getting the data from the old game to build off of.


I have the latest version of the game on this thread, all that's changed is the words...and one or two bugs like a scene being blacked out, or something. Still no need to open the other thread.
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