Teen Titan Sim/RPG: Father's Issue (11/04/14)

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Teen Titan Sim/RPG: Father's Issue (11/04/14)

Postby LePasseur » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:53 pm

Hi,

My apologies:
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First I want to thanks omp123 for showing me my mistake and apologing to whom ever I might have offence. The animation who was there was my first attempt at Flash and was taken form MnF Nami. I used it as a step by step guide on how to modified, move and anime object in flash, removing part of the original animation to insert mine and so on... I'm not very good in english, so to word I used before to describe what I did seem to have been to wrong one. I never wanted to implied that the animation was all mine, only a part of the animation and some other thing. Don't belive me if you want, but I spent many hour on that simple animation learning the basic of tween, loop or draw. My goal is not to produce cheap copy of MnF, but a battle RPG/sim rasing game with some sex scene, and not sex scene riped from MnF or elsewhere but mine. I also never wanted and will never want to make any kind of profit from making flash game, it is only a way for me to past time. I posted the animation to give more flesh to the project and because I didn't wanted to that I spent all that time for nearly nothing as a physical final product but realise now that it was a mistake. Once again, I want to apologise to all of you. Plagiarism is one of the biggest "bad thing" (sorry, I can't find the good word to express it) we can do in science. I am ashamed of myself to don't have realise that what I was doing have been that. I'm really sorry and I hope that this time I used the good word to clearly transmite my message.


On a different note, thanks to you, I have now a better idea of where I'm going. You will play as Raven after she quit the Teen Titans. Trigon, her father, is back an control most of her inner-self, so she must fight them to take them back and gain there power in order to be able to defeat her father.

I have zero talents for drawing, so the art is a mix of picture from various source I use and adapte. I claim no right on the art.
Here are an exemple of what I have done so far:

Raven X Raven:
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Trigon:
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Raven (I have a hard time to find the right color for raven skin, so it may change in the futur)
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Character creation and Combat system (the special attaque and the ennemy health bar have no code yet, it is not a bug) The next step will be to add animation to the differents action.
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So if you have any good idea, scenario, character, ennemy, intercourse, cammeo, etc. They will be gladly welcome.

Feel free to request me anything exept loli, it is the only big no-no.

P.S. sorry for my bad english, I'm a french native speaker.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby corta » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:29 pm

it's nice to see a game announcement with some content to go with it ;)

good luck with this one, whichever way you go.
and take it from me: big plans and grand schemes are overrated -- make some stuff, have some fun with it and everything works out eventually.

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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby Mr D » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:47 pm

Well if you want to make a dating sim with the superhero formula than it should be simple.
Pick a main character from the Titans or have a "new guy" join
Make the villain make his presence known like Trigon or Slade
Give them a goal in a set time limit. (close all Trigons portals, find bombs across the city, locate and defeat the main villain by interrogate his minions)
Make some pointers how to progress- clear mission X to get item Y to progress the story
Interaction with the "talk->raise affection ->profit" dating sim formula
You can add mission for rewards like: stop minor crime(robbery), fighting minor villains (maybe a reward scene?)
Make a place to train: gym, danger room, meditate, spar with another Titan (i smell chemistry)

Hope some of those pointers helped. Good luck.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby Residentlover2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:59 pm

In my opinion you should make this date sim with a girl as the protagonist... ;), since in that option we can get both lesbian and hetero scenes :D
Well is a great game so far, I really like what youre making.. I cant help cause I dont know too much about these, but Maybe you should play some dating sim games after making yours.. so you can take references
here an example:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/237305

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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby LePasseur » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:59 am

Thank you all for your suggestion, I will probably go for game with Raven as the protagoniste and must fight against her father Trigon. Now I only need a good way to integrate the sex scene, something better than: ''let's fuck! Why? Because it's a porn game!!!'' I am looking forward to make sex scene with here different inner-self.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby Elerneron » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:41 pm

As you are using a more mature version of Raven you might want to call it a "Titan", or "Team Titan" game rather than a "Teen Titan" game, as they dropped Teen from the group name when they matured. If you do choose to do so keep in mind that Robin became Nightwing around this time as well.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby AllenAndArth » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:19 pm

Elerneron Wrote:As you are using a more mature version of Raven you might want to call it a "Titan", or "Team Titan" game rather than a "Teen Titan" game, as they dropped Teen from the group name when they matured. If you do choose to do so keep in mind that Robin became Nightwing around this time as well.

good choice!
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby Residentlover2 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:19 pm

LePasseur Wrote:Thank you all for your suggestion, I will probably go for game with Raven as the protagoniste and must fight against her father Trigon. Now I only need a good way to integrate the sex scene, something better than: ''let's fuck! Why? Because it's a porn game!!!'' I am looking forward to make sex scene with here different inner-self.


well in my opinion thats depends on the character and the situation, if youre encontering with starfire for example in the teen titan`s home, we should be able to talk with her, and answer questions from her, if you answer her in a cool way, your relationship status with her will upgrade....
sorry for my bad english
English is not my main language :P
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby omp123 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:39 am

Well first of all, personally, I wouldn't steal my animations from a Meet and Fuck game and tweak Nami to look like Raven.

But that's just me.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby LePasseur » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:05 pm

I didn't "steal" the animation, I used the body image of Nami as a reference but I made the animation. MnF animation are way supperior than mine and it will be a lie to say that they are not one of my strongest influence for animating sex scene. But your comments make my thinqs and I will change the description to give more credit to MnF.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby omp123 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:44 pm

LePasseur Wrote:I didn't "steal" the animation, I used the body image of Nami as a reference but I made the animation. MnF animation are way supperior than mine and it will be a lie to say that they are not one of my strongest influence for animating sex scene. But your comments make my thinqs and I will change the description to give more credit to MnF.


Last chance to admit that you ripped the animations right from the game and recolored them before I make you look stupid.
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Re: Teen Titan Game

Postby Zeus Kabob » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:06 am

omp123 Wrote:
LePasseur Wrote:I didn't "steal" the animation, I used the body image of Nami as a reference but I made the animation. MnF animation are way supperior than mine and it will be a lie to say that they are not one of my strongest influence for animating sex scene. But your comments make my thinqs and I will change the description to give more credit to MnF.


Last chance to admit that you ripped the animations right from the game and recolored them before I make you look stupid.

Please be civil, omp.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby omp123 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:20 am

I'll keep it civil, Zeus, though this is an issue with him as an artist, game developer, and overall decent person, so this post is made with the sole intent of helping him become better at all three, as well as to make a statement to all the others who do things like him. LePasseur needs to stop lying to himself and others and cut his losses, which is a lesson many others before and after him will have to learn before they can thrive in any artistic environment.

LePasseur (Can I call you LP?), given about three too many hours of free time, I've decompiled both your flash and the Meet and Fuck - One Piece Nami game I mentioned.

At first when I mentioned the theft, I meant it lightly. While it was an obvious recolor of an existing flash, it didn't bother me one bit, I intended to only tell you that I was aware that the animations you posted wee recolors and edits of an existing flash game, just to see if you would own up to it.

You did, in part, by admitting that the art wasn't yours (again, no foul around here, this very forum was founded by taking Playshapes' art and turning it into something new), but you went on to lie that you merely REFERENCED the MnF animation, and studied from it only to use the pieces provided in the flash and animate it yourself.

And that, as you know, is a lie. Thus, I decompiled both animations and created this for you and all to see:

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You animated nothing yourself. The timelines, tweens, object names, EVERYTHING was exactly 100% the same from the source flash by MnF, and as you can see in side-by-side comparisons, everything about the two sets of animations are directly copied. Nobody can "reference" and "study" an animation's timelines and get it to look exactly the same.

Please stop lying like this. You're only hurting yourself and killing your reputation before you even have a chance to establish one.

You did not draw this, you did not animate this. You created a flash edit, and that's absolutely fine. You can do that. It's okay for your first flash game idea to use existing material as filler that would otherwise be far too time-consuming to do by scratch if all you're trying to do is work around the coding, and not the art.

But by lying about animating things you did not animate, you set yourself up as just another cheat stealing the IP and work of other artists, which if you're trying to turn a profit from your game, is highly illegal. Don't claim art you didn't draw, don't claim animations you didn't animate, and site your sources for both legality and common courtesy for those who created the work you use. And respect your peers by not trying to pull a fast-one on them with lies upon lies.

You don't have to remove this thread or abandon the project. Just stop lying.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby Terrantor!!! » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:32 am

Submitted my vote for R-R-R-R-R-R-R-RAVEN!!!! Gotta be the hottest toon known to man. So yeah, do this, man. just fucking do it! who cares if ppl catch you copying. this forums about fun and recycling shit that appeals to us. i doubt you'll get sued by either company for incorporating their content into your own creation. I actually think your raven looks better than the original, so fuck that guy up there, oc is hard to come by and is usually never free.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby konamicode13 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:58 pm

omp123 Wrote:You did not draw this, you did not animate this. You created a flash edit, and that's absolutely fine. You can do that. It's okay for your first flash game idea to use existing material as filler that would otherwise be far too time-consuming to do by scratch if all you're trying to do is work around the coding, and not the art.

But by lying about animating things you did not animate, you set yourself up as just another cheat stealing the IP and work of other artists, which if you're trying to turn a profit from your game, is highly illegal. Don't claim art you didn't draw, don't claim animations you didn't animate, and site your sources for both legality and common courtesy for those who created the work you use. And respect your peers by not trying to pull a fast-one on them with lies upon lies.

You don't have to remove this thread or abandon the project. Just stop lying.


Omp is right about this, the majority of the work on this site reused other parts of Playshapes' work. Animations and art were reused and recolored, so that won't be an issue here. But trying to take false credit for the animations is a mistake. It may or may not have consequences here (I'm not familiar with the forum rules in this instance), but that's a bad habit to get into, especially if you decide to pursue this beyond a hobby.

That said, there's always room for more Titans porn, so I hope you continue to work on this.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby FMC » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:35 pm

I seriously hope you haven't scared him off, Omp. It's been a while since there's been a dating game where you play as a female and sex is involved. The last one was that Peach Life game, and that's since been cancelled (as far as I know, since the creator disappeared from working on it).
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby omp123 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:26 am

FMC Wrote:I seriously hope you haven't scared him off, Omp. It's been a while since there's been a dating game where you play as a female and sex is involved. The last one was that Peach Life game, and that's since been cancelled (as far as I know, since the creator disappeared from working on it).


I realize now that the stakes have never been higher and the consequences for my actions may have been greater than I've ever imagined.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue

Postby napala » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:10 pm

Nice job breaking it, hero.
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue (10/04/14)

Postby Carlos1225 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:45 am

Woohoo he's back!
The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom.
~ Sun Tzu
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Re: Teen Titan Game: Father's Issue (10/04/14)

Postby coolness32 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:28 am

I'm interested in seeing how this game is going to turn out!
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