Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 3.48 (Nov 2/18) - HIATUS

[Ivan-Aedler]

Regarding the Pictures. 1) Kamek is going around making them perverted using his imagination 2) They just exist for some reason.

Actually, its like that:
1) Ok! Kamek make them perverted (magic).
2) A mystery (Peach might have done that but she doesnt remember), like the plan of having an Egadd picture where he is drawing in Peach's butt.
Except vaginal sex (she starts the game virgin, you know). Peach can be the most innocent person in the world, but mystery is a mystery, we dont need to explain it.

Maybe Wario has been making these pictures himself and selling them! So Kamek was swapping the paintings in the castle for ones that Wario made....It can become a plot point!

Toy, the problem is that Peach hasnt done that to Wario or anyone else! Peach is not that slut.
But let's say that Wario was using an acquarelle, those set of brushes the medieval world has, to create those scenes.
So this can be the item 3) above.

(Actually - this whole game could be the result of a big scheme between Bowser and Wario to make money using Peach)

Possible.

[Toyloli]

If your claiming they don't have cameras then they wouldn't have photos anyhow.
So These pictures are clearly paintings and Anyone can paint Anything! So they don't need to be made by magic.
That can be. Or they can just be paintings. That somebody has painted...

Paintings aren't like photos - they don't necessarily depict things that have happened.

[Ivan-Aedler]

If your claiming they don't have cameras then they wouldn't have photos anyhow. So These pictures are clearly paintings and Anyone can paint Anything! So they don't need to be made by magic...Paintings aren't like photos - they don't necessarily depict things that have happened.

You're right on this. Maybe Kamek has been using Wario's pictures. He might be using magic just to change paintings faster, as he owns Wario ones. Wario is being that badass man who loves porn. But this would be a plot device, that is, we should not know this for sure until later (when Peach finds Wario and other of her dirty pictures). So that picture with Peach getting drenched by koopalings can be set in the pub (Wario will be right of the bathroom door)

[Toyloli]

Plot idea with a spoilet Alert

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

Wouldn't it be awsome to have Wario acting helpful and giving advice or information during the game, then after you've beaten bowser and the game Bowser says "No, no. It's not MY doing! Wario is the one who planned all this!" ... It would certainly be a twist

[theblacknphbutnotgay]

those mario scenes are so funny. they are my favorite thing the 1up and hand raise make me laugh every single time

[Ivan-Aedler]

Plot idea with a spoilet Alert

I am not fond of this idea just because tons of airships went in Mushroom Kingdom to take Mario. Wario would not be 'so powerful' or 'special' enough to make Bowser do this.
Othen than some plausible reason (e.g Wario blackmailing Bowser by showing pics of their chldren having an orgy - this one has really occurred then he painted it in high quality).
Kamek then followed Bowser's order to make magic in order to enter her castle and quickly change her pics to dirty ones made by Wario, so Peach would be shocked and ashamed, making more difficult for her to save Mario.

[susuki]

Remember that this is a porn game! The idea is that the player has the temptation of peach lost virginity.
and therefore are created:
1) erotic Environments (paintings ,mystery)
2) scenes (Sex)
(As far as I understand)
needs to be done not only scenes involving anal sex .... a bit of everything in general.
I mean, for players who want to continue with its peach virginity in an easy way! The idea is that it costs ...
Without all that, it's like playing a normal game?
I hope you understand what I mean:

The idea Wario i like ...
Waluigi could be his sidekick?... that way the game is more complex , there will more to see!

The game is running great!!This increasingly great
Greetings to all.

[VintageBass]

Remember that this is a porn game! The idea is that the player has the temptation of peach lost virginity.

And with it being a porn game, they can easily make Peach into a nymph without leaving the castle. I'm sorry if I'm not understanding you, but yeah for plenty, they don't give a damn about keeping Peach's virginity. They just want the porn.

needs to be done not only scenes involving anal sex .... a bit of everything in general.
I mean, for players who want to continue with its peach virginity in an easy way! The idea is that it costs ...

Another way is to not have sex at all! This was a problem before with Larry being unstompable (and thankfully now he is), and in some cases it's unavoidable to not have vaginal sex because of a certain character (Morton and Larry for example) if you want to have sex with them. There is the idea of Peach being completely a virgin by not having any kind of sex, be it oral, anal and vaginal. It's much more of a challenge for some of us to avoid making sexual contact than trying to avoid getting a vaginal scene.

Without all that, it's like playing a normal game?
I hope you understand what I mean:

If we remove all of the images, it's a normal game? Again, don't understand, but yeah, I guess if you do remove the images, you do have a pretty solid platforming game with Peach as the lead instead of Mario, give or take a few bugs here and there.

The idea Wario i like ...
Waluigi could be his sidekick?... that way the game is more complex , there will more to see!

... I'm sorry for not understanding, but how is making Waluigi Wario's sidekick will make the game more complex? If it's the story, then I'm not sure what to say about it.

... but mystery is a mystery, we dont need to explain it.

Well in most cases, yes you do need to explain what is going on so you don't confuse people. I know that in some cases it's best not to know, but it helps to throw the people some clues as to what is going on and explain things bit by bit so they can figure it out as the story goes along.

Maybe Wario has been making these pictures himself and selling them! So Kamek was swapping the paintings in the castle for ones that Wario made....It can become a plot point!

Toy, the problem is that Peach hasnt done that to Wario or anyone else! Peach is not that slut.
But let's say that Wario was using an acquarelle, those set of brushes the medieval world has, to create those scenes.

That isn't to say that he can't do it... when you have someone with money and a scheming mind, who knows what he can do with it (even if Wario too cheap to spend his money).

At least I get Toy's idea about Wario using these paintings and making a profit. As she said, at least with a painting you can create whatever you want! Wario can commission someone to make an image of Peach getting a blowjob from Morton and it can be as life-like as possible (he can get it for free by blackmail or pay cheap, and maybe sell it for a higher price). What's basically done here in the game is something similar to people putting cocks through Photoshop. Through the magic it's photo manipulation and those painting that do get change (which is odd, I have no problems with those pictures) are basically slapping a cock into it. But introducing other elements in it becomes a problem, as that's not just manipulation but straight up creating something new.

I am not fond of this idea just because tons of airships went in Mushroom Kingdom to take Mario. Wario would not be 'so powerful' or 'special' enough to make Bowser do this.

Sure he might not be physically strong and such, but woo boy the power that is fan-fiction Ivan! You can make any lowly character into a powerful entity by working in the right elements into the character. As I said, Wario has the wits and money. He can use his money (even skillfully not spending a cent) to bribe others and come up with this scheme to lure Mario away and do whatever. If he has that big of a grudge, then the man will do ANYTHING to get rid of someone, even if it is something ridiculous.

[Toyloli]

somehow double posted... please ignore this!

[Toyloli]

I am not fond of this idea just because tons of airships went in Mushroom Kingdom to take Mario. Wario would not be 'so powerful' or 'special' enough to make Bowser do this.

Sure he might not be physically strong and such, but woo boy the power that is fan-fiction Ivan! You can make any lowly character into a powerful entity by working in the right elements into the character. As I said, Wario has the wits and money. He can use his money (even skillfully not spending a cent) to bribe others and come up with this scheme to lure Mario away and do whatever. If he has that big of a grudge, then the man will do ANYTHING to get rid of someone, even if it is something ridiculous.

Um... Why would Bowser need to be forced. If I were bowser and a shady guy said "Hey, you kidnap mario again and I can provide a way not only for us both to make a tidy profit, but you may even get to do the princess!"
I think he would take that deal... Wouldn't you ?

But that is neither the point here.
The point is this - People are requesting more perverted paintings. We have already established that the paintings in the castle were put there by Kamek. No mystery there (It's in the opening credits... Although it COULD be put as an in game dialog! Quite easily in fact.)
If people want to know Where the paintings come from. It's easily said that they ARE paintings, that somebody has been making them either with magical talent or general artistic talent - and that they have likely been being sold to people for money cause why wouldn't you.

The fact that they are paintings and not photos I would have thought would be obvious. We're basically established that everything here is low tech.
Ivan has pretty much said this is based on the early games from before cars, and tv's and cameras exist. So all we 'should' need to say here is that all these pictures of peach are Paintings or likewise and that some perverted person is Making these without Peach's knowledge or concent.

The rest is up to the audience really. Heck! MAYbe Ivan himself has an avatar somewhere in the game who is the explanation for everything! Self insertion is a marvelous plot device after all
(not to mention it feels good)[/quote]

[Ivan-Aedler]

Remember that this is a porn game! The idea is that the player has the temptation of peach lost virginity. And therefore are created:
1) erotic Environments (paintings ,mystery)
2) scenes (Sex)
(As far as I understand)

Of course. Thats why I accept the idea of more pictures depicting Peach being fucked (vaginal or not). Even if its only a magic, or a Wario creation.
And I will reinforce the mysterious aspect is always welcome. Let the player imagine why and how the picture was there aside of Kamek magic. Kamek might not have transformed all pictures. Some of them can be ....REAL. (except vaginal in this case).

Waluigi could be his sidekick?... that way the game is more complex , there will more to see!

If time and more incentive, Wario can be in, but Waluigi? I dont think its good to put them all along with all scenes.
Wario was planned just for those who wanted to see him. Just a small scene.

The game is running great!!This increasingly great. Greetings to all.

Thanks.

And with it being a porn game, they can easily make Peach into a nymph without leaving the castle. I'm sorry if I'm not understanding you, but yeah for plenty, they don't give a damn about keeping Peach's virginity. They just want the porn.

There are some people who really like plot devices. Me included. So yes, some can say: 'wow I am still virgin', then look at the pictures in some levels and imagine: 'hmmmm.....why Peach is....fucked like that? (except in her vagina) Did she do that before?'. And we can even imagine that YES. Maybe due to a blackmail. But preserving her virginity.

There is the idea of Peach being completely a virgin by not having any kind of sex, be it oral, anal and vaginal. It's much more of a challenge for some of us to avoid making sexual contact than trying to avoid getting a vaginal scene.

I might create another rule. Virgin (vaginal), and PURE (not sex at all, even facial). Pure Peach can get certain scenes too.

Well in most cases, yes you do need to explain what is going on so you don't confuse people.

Not the case in may Mario games. Well, just trust me. In the future, if something happens, we talk gain. So I still defend that SOME pictures can be there....for other reasons, not only Kamek. (like Wario making pictures with an acquarell).

That isn't to say that he can't do it... when you have someone with money and a scheming mind, who knows what he can do with it (even if Wario too cheap to spend his money).

Thats why I defend some mystery. Who knows if he really painted her by his mind (his creations) or she already did it (e.g. a facial with him or a koopaling).

Wario can commission someone to make an image of Peach getting a blowjob from Morton and it can be as life-like as possible. (he can get it for free by blackmail or pay cheap, and maybe sell it for a higher price)

Great for me. Peach can even pay him to have the picture so she can destroy it hehe (or not, if she is a nymph).

(In photoshop) Introducing other elements in it becomes a problem, as that's not just manipulation but straight up creating something new.

Yes, in this case we are not just uncensoring, for example.

But woo boy the power that is fan-fiction Ivan! You can make any lowly character into a powerful entity by working in the right elements into the character.

So you prefer Wario making a 'pact' to Bowser than my original idea of Kamek and Bowser? In the beginning, the reason was that WENDY could fuck Mario.

Um... Why would Bowser need to be forced. If I were bowser and a shady guy said "Hey, you kidnap mario again and I can provide a way not only for us both to make a tidy profit, but you may even get to do the princess!"

I dont disagree.

The point is this - People are requesting more perverted paintings.

Me too. And like I said, those all wont be in the same level, like her castle. Pictures will be spread along the game.

We have already established that the paintings in the castle were put there by Kamek. No mystery there (It's in the opening credits... Although it COULD be put as an in game dialog! Quite easily in fact.)

You say, in places Peach can interact, like when she talks to herself when someone wants her to lay down in her bed?

If people want to know Where the paintings come from. It's easily said that they ARE paintings, that somebody has been making them either with magical talent or general artistic talent - and that they have likely been being sold to people for money cause why wouldn't you.

Yes. But as I have said, I want to retain some mystery, like 4 pics made by Wario, 2 might be a magic from Kamek, and those 4.....I dont know.... Its a mystery. I like this concept. I can even say the 'truth' of these mysteries months later.

Ivan has pretty much said this is based on the early games from before cars, and tv's and cameras exist.

Correct. So thats why Lakitu would use binoculars and something to register to (even a quick sketch) for Wario to make the pic.

The rest is up to the audience really. Heck! MAYbe Ivan himself has an avatar somewhere in the game who is the explanation for everything! Self insertion is a marvelous plot device after all

Haha, go guess it.

[VintageBass]

As I said, Wario has the wits and money. He can use his money (even skillfully not spending a cent) to bribe others and come up with this scheme to lure Mario away and do whatever. If he has that big of a grudge, then the man will do ANYTHING to get rid of someone, even if it is something ridiculous.

Um... Why would Bowser need to be forced. If I were bowser and a shady guy said "Hey, you kidnap mario again and I can provide a way not only for us both to make a tidy profit, but you may even get to do the princess!"
I think he would take that deal... Wouldn't you ?

... I was talking about Wario, not Bowser. That entire paragraph was me talking about Wario, which still we agree on the idea. It's basically Wario wants to team up with Bowser by giving him something, the Princess especially, and maybe some money if everything goes according to plan. I was more or less referring to Wario than Bowser.

The point is this - People are requesting more perverted paintings. We have already established that the paintings in the castle were put there by Kamek. No mystery there (It's in the opening credits... Although it COULD be put as an in game dialog! Quite easily in fact.)

Exactly. There really can't be a mystery if we already have the culprit shown in the opening!

If people want to know Where the paintings come from. It's easily said that they ARE paintings, that somebody has been making them either with magical talent or general artistic talent - and that they have likely been being sold to people for money cause why wouldn't you.

This certainly adds in a whole new layer to the game... and I actually do like this. This reasoning is loosening up my dislike for the Koopaling picture simply by changing what it is. Changing it from a picture to a painting makes more sense because, whether or not it's done by hand or by magic, it makes more sense to be a painting, at least to me. Now you have the question of who's making these paintings and what to do with this perverted individual. There's the mystery!

The rest is up to the audience really. Heck! MAYbe Ivan himself has an avatar somewhere in the game who is the explanation for everything! Self insertion is a marvelous plot device after all
(not to mention it feels good)

... Somehow you managed to read my mind on that.

Of course. Thats why I accept the idea of more pictures depicting Peach being fucked (vaginal or not). Even if its only a magic, or a Wario creation. Kamek might not have transformed all pictures. Some of them can be ....REAL. (except vaginal in this case).

Like someone made it by hand kind of real?

Waluigi could be his sidekick?... that way the game is more complex , there will more to see!

If time and more incentive, Wario can be in, but Waluigi? I dont think its good to put them all along with all scenes.

Not to mention Waluigi would also have his own schemes to worry about. Sure those two work better together, but Waluigi does have his own agenda and he doesn't have to rely on Wario all the time.

There are some people who really like plot devices. Me included. So yes, some can say: 'wow I am still virgin', then look at the pictures in some levels and imagine: 'hmmmm.....why Peach is....fucked like that? (except in her vagina) Did she do that before?'. And we can even imagine that YES. Maybe due to a blackmail. But preserving her virginity.

Yes, it'll be nice to get a good story out of this, and I do want a good story here and then, but again I understand that most people will not care for it; they just want to get to the porn. At least you're putting effort into making some kind of story outta this, and I do like that.

Well in most cases, yes you do need to explain what is going on so you don't confuse people.

Not the case in may Mario games. Well, just trust me. In the future, if something happens, we talk gain. So I still defend that SOME pictures can be there....for other reasons, not only Kamek. (like Wario making pictures with an acquarell).

I was talking more in general than here. But at least here on a public forum, it's a bad idea to discuss a mystery because... well, someone would read it and get spoiled by it. So, not a good place to discuss this openly. And if you defend the pictures... do scatter them across the worlds. Only the original portraits that are at the castle stay at the castle, while everything susuki is suggesting goes elsewhere. Heck I wouldn't mind a picture of Peach in the new Daisy room. It'll certainly be interesting to hear that conversation...

Thats why I defend some mystery. Who knows if he really painted her by his mind (his creations) or she already did it (e.g. a facial with him or a koopaling).

No, I didn't say Wario was making the pictures. I'm saying that he could get someone else to make the pictures. Sure he'll still be tied to it since he's the one making the demands, but you don't know who is making the art.

But woo boy the power that is fan-fiction Ivan! You can make any lowly character into a powerful entity by working in the right elements into the character.

So you prefer Wario making a 'pact' to Bowser than my original idea of Kamek and Bowser? In the beginning, the reason was that WENDY could fuck Mario.

It's just an idea, Ivan. And this is again general, Ivan. I'm someone who did this in one of my own fan-fictions by taking a one-shot character and making him the villain in my story. It's pretty easy. Still, if you want to do the Bowser/Kamek thing, that's good. We're just throwing around idea. You don't have to use them!

[Ivan-Aedler]

... I was talking about Wario, not Bowser. That entire paragraph was me talking about Wario, which still we agree on the idea. It's basically Wario wants to team up with Bowser

Going back to the voting pool number 8:

Its a nice way to start from here, in case we really change the initial plot.

Exactly. There really can't be a mystery if we already have the culprit shown in the opening!

Remember: some pictures wont be affected by Kamek, but other reasons (Wario, etc). We can talk in private about some mysteries.

Changing it from a picture to a painting makes more sense because, whether or not it's done by hand or by magic, it makes more sense to be a painting, at least to me.

Again, dont worry. The picture as created by susuki works.

Like someone made it by hand kind of real?

Who knows.

Waluigi does have his own agenda and he doesn't have to rely on Wario all the time.

Good point too.

Yes, it'll be nice to get a good story out of this, and I do want a good story here and then, but again I understand that most people will not care for it

Dont worry about it.

If you defend the pictures... do scatter them across the worlds. Only the original portraits that are at the castle stay at the castle

Thats the plan.

Heck I wouldn't mind a picture of Peach in the new Daisy room. It'll certainly be interesting to hear that conversation...

Lets see.

No, I didn't say Wario was making the pictures. I'm saying that he could get someone else to make the pictures.

And it could be that guy, from Super Mario RPG. He is a singer but from some of his personality, he is a scholar, he might know art too.
TOADOFSKY

I'm someone who did this in one of my own fan-fictions by taking a one-shot character and making him the villain in my story. It's pretty easy. Still, if you want to do the Bowser/Kamek thing, that's good. We're just throwing around idea. You don't have to use them!

No, I want to discuss more. I just dont want to just 'drop' the voting pool made above.

[Toyloli]

We have already established that the paintings in the castle were put there by Kamek. No mystery there (It's in the opening credits... Although it COULD be put as an in game dialog! Quite easily in fact.)

You say, in places Peach can interact, like when she talks to herself when someone wants her to lay down in her bed?

What I was thinking more of was to remove the Kamek scene from the preview, and have Kamen appear actually in the castle during gameplay.
When the player takes Peach down-stairs the Toads are all acting weird, and then we actually see Kamek floating over the paintings and peach and Kamek have dialog.

And then Kamek changes the paintings in front of her and dares her to find her beloved Mario with the whole world acting perverted!

This kind of change is sortof, show the back-story instead of telling the player before they start the game.

[Ivan-Aedler]

What I was thinking more of was to remove the Kamek scene from the preview, and have Kamen appear actually in the castle during gameplay.

Oh, nonono, not like that. Do you wanted me to just say: 'oh Toy, I love your sewers, but....well I wont use it. (going to put it in the trash can).
Of course not. I want to retain it, appearing and laughing. But if eventually he is removed, he will be actually transferred as I like reusing things. I remember I've taken more than 2 days to put him. Slayer_J helped me to make him. Slayer_J is KatSuO_O disciple

When the player takes Peach down-stairs the Toads are all acting weird, and then we actually see Kamek floating over the paintings and peach and Kamek have dialog

This can happen after his initial appearance, already in the game, why not.

And then Kamek changes the paintings in front of her and dares her to find her beloved Mario with the whole world acting perverted!

Better to make he change the painting in the roof. Thats why I prefer to let the user explore the castle until finding him in the roof or near it.

[Biles]

Well, I'm almost done with the animation. The reason that it's taken me this long was more due to the fact that I had succumb to the holiday syndrome but am not getting motivated to finish various projects such as the commission and whatnots. Also, I recently had acid reflux x_x so it's kinda sucked. Anyways, I was thinking about the veggie grabbing animation and I wonder if we should have Peach hold heavier bigger objects such as the POW above her head while small and lighter objects held to her bosoms as she does right now. :3

[Ivan-Aedler]

Ok I've talked to Toyloli and she explained Kamek could keep cursing the pics and laughing, but during the game, not in the prologue.
I will think about it. But if I return to this matter, I'll first make his scene on the roof (where Peach can find him, then he will make the glass naked and go away using his broom).

Well, I'm almost done with the animation. The reason that it's taken me this long was more due to the fact that I had succumb to the holiday syndrome

Wow. I need some holiday :/

I was thinking about the veggie grabbing animation and I wonder if we should have Peach hold heavier bigger objects such as the POW above her head while small and lighter objects held to her bosoms as she does right now. :3

Possible, and we can even make her lift shyguys and other enemies that way. But I need help me with the animations of course (yes, more than one animation group, because we would need Jumping, Descending, Walking, Jaunting, Standing up, running and 'ready to fly'. I know, it's only a matter to change her hand placements, but its still work to do.

[VintageBass]

... I was talking about Wario, not Bowser. That entire paragraph was me talking about Wario, which still we agree on the idea. It's basically Wario wants to team up with Bowser

Going back to the voting pool number 8:

Its a nice way to start from here, in case we really change the initial plot.

Again, I'm not trying to change the plot, we're just thinking of random things. You don't have to really use them, you know? But if you want to keep with the Bowser/Kamek story, here's this: what if Wario hears about the plan and wants to get in on it. Bowser came up with this plan and Wario thinks that this could be a good idea, so he asks if he wants in OR he can go along with the whole scheme without getting involve directly in the main conflict. Which could be a side-plot in this game if we go with the latter option, with Wario not getting involve directly but still wants to make a profit off of this plan.

No, I didn't say Wario was making the pictures. I'm saying that he could get someone else to make the pictures.

And it could be that guy, from Super Mario RPG. He is a singer but from some of his personality, he is a scholar, he might know art too.
TOADOFSKY

OK, I would like to say that it's a bit unlikely considering he's more trained in understanding music than paintings or sculptures, but it could work...

[Ivan-Aedler]

What if Wario hears about the plan and wants to get in on it. Bowser came up with this plan and Wario thinks that this could be a good idea, so he asks if he wants in OR he can go along with the whole scheme without getting involve directly in the main conflict. Which could be a side-plot in this game if we go with the latter option, with Wario not getting involve directly

Two choices instead of one? Like a side event to the ending (or before that?)
Its better to just make the story based on what we currently have + Wario involved somehow. I can even add a bit of animation between he and Bowser in the prologue.

OK, I would like to say that it's a bit unlikely considering he's more trained in understanding music than paintings or sculptures, but it could work...

And he would never know its for the evil. And Wario would pay him less or much less than agreed.

[VintageBass]

Two choices instead of one? Like a side event to the ending (or before that?)
Its better to just make the story based on what we currently have + Wario involved somehow. I can even add a bit of animation between he and Bowser in the prologue.

Like a side-story, basically.
Again, there is my suggestion of having him overhearing about the plan and profiting from Bowser's without him knowing he's involved in any way. Bowser may not have a clue Wario is in on this. Wario can do his own thing while enjoying the fact that Peach is doing all of this and the fact that Mario is gone. It's a win-win for him!