Breeding Season: Alpha Version 5.3 [Update 11/3/14]

[Justapuppet]

... and naturally, as I'm adding, it wouldn't cross a person's mind to try something that absurd unless he specifically wanted to (1)test the limits of the game, (as might be your case) or, as I say, (2)get a herm to breed with itself(which might or might not have occurred to Draconis and which WOULD NOT WORK PROPERLY) OR (like me, with one monster of one non-herm sex) (3)find a bug.

... Or, you know, was just playing the game, saw that you could do it, and so did it. Especially at the start of the game when you only have a couple monsters to choose from, it's pretty glaringly obvious that it's letting you do it, even if you only happen to highlight the same monster twice... which is almost hard NOT to do at some point. And considering the nature of the game, I don't know about everyone else, but I was not in the least surprised to see the result.

[Lucky777]

... Or, you know, was just playing the game, saw that you could do it, and so did it. Especially at the start of the game when you only have a couple monsters to choose from, it's pretty glaringly obvious that it's letting you do it, even if you only happen to highlight the same monster twice... which is almost hard NOT to do at some point.

I accept the correction.
Please feel free to read the list as if it had included the fourth option of clicking things thoughtlessly.
Doing it specifically to see what on earth would happen, though, probably falls under (1).

And considering the nature of the game, I don't know about everyone else, but I was not in the least surprised to see the result.

...You couldn't be claiming that if someone had asked you before you tried it
"How do you get the breeder to fuck a monster?" you'd have responded with
"Try to make the monster breed with itself.", I expect.

[Cappy]

Two things, I think having a futanari being able to self-impregnate is a fairly niche fetish that could easily be pushed back on the priority list in exchange for other generally appreciated fetishes. On the other hand, putting it up on the donation-suggestion-poll is a pretty good idea, that way if I'm wrong it'll not only get added to the game but earn Hartista some sweet dosh. (Although genetically speaking self-impregnation would probably be twice as bad as inbreeding, I don't think it'd serve the game very well as a "Useful thing")

Second, the breeder serving as a "Mirror" who reflects beast breeding modifiers straight back at them has always seemed to me like a pretty cool idea, I personally would be against anybody changing it, both because it's (imo) a waste of time and effort which could be spent adding more content, and because the game's presumably been designed that way so far for a reason. I never found "Breeding a beast with itself" to be hard to understand or figure out, and it's one of the first things I've tried, seeing the animation should explain the concept to you perfectly, so it's not particularly unintuitive. The only two reasons there would be to change it is:

A) The futanari self-impregnation thing, which I doubt would be popular enough to topple the other fetishes.

B) The definition of the word "Breeding", and honestly I don't think many people particularly care. The menu is mostly used for breeding purposes; as one of the goals of the game is to create genetically superior or specific stock with which to serve a purpose. The fact that some of the sex that happens *Isn't* technically breeding is a pretty lame excuse to change the design of the menu or it's name for that matter, why on earth would you throw away lesbian and gay content just because of pedantry? The answer is that you wouldn't because that's fuckin' stupid.

[Lucky777]

(Although genetically speaking self-impregnation would probably be twice as bad as inbreeding, I don't think it'd serve the game very well as a "Useful thing")

Yeah, probably.

Second, the breeder serving as a "Mirror" who reflects beast breeding modifiers straight back at them has always seemed to me like a pretty cool idea, I personally would be against anybody changing it, both because it's (imo) a waste of time and effort which could be spent adding more content, and because the game's presumably been designed that way so far for a reason. I never found "Breeding a beast with itself" to be hard to understand or figure out, and it's one of the first things I've tried, seeing the animation should explain the concept to you perfectly, so it's not particularly unintuitive.

Well, I was more thinking of a cosmetic change to deal with a cosmetic problem; something like making the second monster to be selected show the breeder instead if it happened to be the same monster as the first one selected.
The unintuitive nature of the thing is all that I am concerned about, from a "game design" perspective, which is why I figure that a mention of the thing in the tutorial is likely to be quite sufficient as a way out. If one doesn't find it unintuitive then there's no reason at all for it to change, but I maintain that it is so, since it is a completely contrary result to the command that was input to achieve that result.
The fact that you can stumble upon it via any one of the 3 (now admittedly 4) mindsets that I mentioned is why I think the fix is not a matter of any high priority.
I still think it's a thing that ought to be fixed, though.

why on earth would you throw away lesbian and gay content just because of pedantry? The answer is that you wouldn't because that's fuckin' stupid.

Even if I TRIED to agree with you more, it would be impossible, because I already agree to the maximum amount of my capability.
If he were going to fix the breeding definition I'd expect him to do it by substituting the word "fuck" for "breed" on the interface when it's not breeding, if he bothered with any fix at all. Tossing out the homosexual options over a language definition in a PORN game of all things would be indescribably silly and completely uncalled for.

Nothing says a monster breeder cannot also make monsters fuck for fun or to raise their stats, or fuck with them in a way that does not lead to breeding.

It's much the same as nothing in the definition of breeding (as opposed to in the law on bestiality in some countries) says that a horse breeder cannot also fuck with his horses.

[eroticgrapefruit]

People seem to be overlooking the fact that this is a magical alternate universe where interspecies pregnancy is not only possible but highly beneficial, and even copulation without producing a child gives you superpowers. It's not surprising their definition of breeding is very different from ours.

[Justapuppet]

And considering the nature of the game, I don't know about everyone else, but I was not in the least surprised to see the result.

...You couldn't be claiming that if someone had asked you before you tried it
"How do you get the breeder to fuck a monster?" you'd have responded with
"Try to make the monster breed with itself.", I expect.

No, but it still wasn't surprising.
As it turns out the tutorial is unfortunately missing the clarification, but until that gets addressed (and I'm sure it will) when the tutorial is more of an overall concern, I'm pretty confident people will figure it out, one way or another.

... On a different note, was there supposed to be another update soon-ish?

[Ironvein]

And considering the nature of the game, I don't know about everyone else, but I was not in the least surprised to see the result.

...You couldn't be claiming that if someone had asked you before you tried it
"How do you get the breeder to fuck a monster?" you'd have responded with
"Try to make the monster breed with itself.", I expect.

No, but it still wasn't surprising.
As it turns out the tutorial is unfortunately missing the clarification, but until that gets addressed (and I'm sure it will) when the tutorial is more of an overall concern, I'm pretty confident people will figure it out, one way or another.

... On a different note, was there supposed to be another update soon-ish?

I think HBomb mentioned an inability to get to it until next week. Although that was in response to the Harpie/Horse animation. He has not really specified an update to expect yet.

[Mechaphantom]

He said the cum shots would be done b the 15th, that not looking like it going to happen though.

[HartistaPipebomb]

1. Cumshot animations will be in the game late Sunday night. Cannot promise they'll all be finished (many of the animations may have the dick/cum being the only parts that are moving), but they will all be in the game. Also expect gameplay fixes, etc, and, if you're all very good little boys and girls, possibly a little bit more story/dialog with some new characters. The intention is also to have Demons playable, but they may have some placeholder art for their pens, etc.

2. I am aware that (1) breed is the incorrect term, but I thought it was the most evocative, who knows maybe I'll change it to "mating pen" (though I guess technically mating doesn't apply to homosexual copulation either?), (2) breeding the monster with itself to get an animation with the player is unintuitive, when I update the breeding menu (some day) this will be changed and (3) the tutorial is sadly out of date and kind of blows anyway, but the tutorial I want to implement will take me a bit of time.

[needluvn]

Wow, lots of math equasions and word checks in this game. I just play it for the sex. Might just be my cultivated perversion though.

[Lucky777]

No

Good, good, that was one of the most important parts of the point.
If you had actually expected the interface to do what the interface says it will do, (a reasonable expectation, and one that players of most games - and certainly this game - will probably have) the experience would inevitably have been more surprising.

1. Cumshot animations will be in the game late Sunday night.
...
(2) breeding the monster with itself to get an animation with the player is unintuitive, when I update the breeding menu (some day) this will be changed

Coolio.

Who knows maybe I'll change it to "mating pen" (though I guess technically mating doesn't apply to homosexual copulation either?)

I don't THINK "mating" applies to homosexual copulation either, but breeders can totally do things other than breeding when they are inside the breeding pen.
Breeding pen and breeder are perfectly fine names, as they need not be exhaustive names, and they sound cooler than "copulation pen" and "copulation facilitator" anyway.
When I played a while ago, (as far as I can remember), the only inaccurate use of the word was literally on the button that says "breed" to initiate non-breeding.
Even then, clicking the button is really just initiating an ATTEMPT to breed (as not every click will result in breeding successfully taking place) so there's nothing wrong with the button at all if the trainer is a confused lady who is doing her very best to attempt to breed two males when you hit dat button for dat pairing.

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(I doubt that's the case, but still.)

[Mr D]

Well breeding can also mean training or taking care of. So maybe she is just training them....in fucking.
Oh my god I just had the image in my head where the breeder just puts 2 dickwolfs in the breeding pen and she is like "alright it is time to get some training done" than she turns around and suddenly she is like "OMG what are they doing? Are they at it again? I just harvested each of them 3 times before this. Oh god why wont they just learn simple tricks like fetch?.....fuck it i have 120 minutes to waste better make the most of it"

[Lucky777]

Hahaha

[DraconisOminous]

Good show Mr D, good show.

[furryyiffer]

hello i would like to do some gaming design and was wondering if i could be of any assistance to the game development?

[Mechaphantom]

1. Cumshot animations will be in the game late Sunday night. Cannot promise they'll all be finished (many of the animations may have the dick/cum being the only parts that are moving), but they will all be in the game. Also expect gameplay fixes, etc, and, if you're all very good little boys and girls, possibly a little bit more story/dialog with some new characters. The intention is also to have Demons playable, but they may have some placeholder art for their pens, etc.

2. I am aware that (1) breed is the incorrect term, but I thought it was the most evocative, who knows maybe I'll change it to "mating pen" (though I guess technically mating doesn't apply to homosexual copulation either?), (2) breeding the monster with itself to get an animation with the player is unintuitive, when I update the breeding menu (some day) this will be changed and (3) the tutorial is sadly out of date and kind of blows anyway, but the tutorial I want to implement will take me a bit of time.

I very interested to see where the story goes. I'll be honest getting a little bored with game but new story options will perk it up for me right up!

[HartistaPipebomb]

1. Cumshot animations will be in the game late Sunday night. Cannot promise they'll all be finished (many of the animations may have the dick/cum being the only parts that are moving), but they will all be in the game. Also expect gameplay fixes, etc, and, if you're all very good little boys and girls, possibly a little bit more story/dialog with some new characters. The intention is also to have Demons playable, but they may have some placeholder art for their pens, etc.

2. I am aware that (1) breed is the incorrect term, but I thought it was the most evocative, who knows maybe I'll change it to "mating pen" (though I guess technically mating doesn't apply to homosexual copulation either?), (2) breeding the monster with itself to get an animation with the player is unintuitive, when I update the breeding menu (some day) this will be changed and (3) the tutorial is sadly out of date and kind of blows anyway, but the tutorial I want to implement will take me a bit of time.

I very interested to see where the story goes. I'll be honest getting a little bored with game but new story options will perk it up for me right up!

Unfortunately the meat of the story won't be making it into this update, just a little teaser for some new characters. It is definitely one of my major focuses currently, though.

Basically, my non-donation focuses for the next month are going to be:
1. Bug fixes and game balance - As always

2. Storyline - Implementing exploration, branching dialog trees, and faction reputation

3. Butts - 'Nuff said

[Justapuppet]

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3. Butts - 'Nuff said

thank

[HartistaPipebomb]

I went ahead and posted a blog update covering some of my plans for the future as well as requesting help with the art from anyone who's willing to help.

http://breedingseasongame.blogspot.com/2013/05/help-wanted-and-general-updates.html

[Dragaman]

Hi, i really like this game ! There are even recessive traits

Perhaps could be good add a mean to delete capabilities ? With human intellect it easy to obtain bad traits by breeding.