Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 3.48 (Nov 2/18) - HIATUS

[MPLDAM9919]

Wow! We just reached 400 pages in the LoK forums. Where has time time gone by?

Also, what positions are the Toads going to use on Peach once that feature is ready in the castle?

[Ivan-Aedler]

Attention. The name of the game will be changed to "He is Missing: Peach Untold Tale" only. I will upload this change soon. ALL SAVE GAMES MIGHT BE LOST. its NOT my fault, but just to avoid DMCA notices. This IS NOT a Nintend0 game but people can think it is. So its just to make it clear.
We have a free mind (even a nuclear war cant change this), so, for us, its still Mario and Peach. 'Peach' will be still referenced in the game, but officially, 'Peach's Untold Tale' is the name now. Of course Mario IS missing yet. I dont have to reinforce that EVERY art is made from scratch by fans, but the problem is that Nintend0 and 'clean' Mario fans are searching for kid games and our adult parody game is being listed. Thats not good for Nintend0 because its for a familial audience, so I understand. If I was a father, I wouldn't like my kid to find porn games so easily and linked to family-game enterprises. Nintend0 knows that parody games in fact help them (I, myself, bought a WII console and a cartridge those days, and I own a super famicom since years ago, just ask Quiz about this). But we dont want too explicit features linked to this enterprise.

Wow! We just reached 400 pages in the LoK forums. Where has time gone by?

Sometimes I dont notice these. I hope people will still value old posts, because I always recycle old posts with things I am changing or I did.

Also, what positions are the Toads going to use on Peach once that feature is ready in the castle?

Its a surprise. Dont forget, I might not be programming in those days because I am moving. I can still try to code something and upload it tonight, tomorrow and maybe after tomorrow.

[theblacknphbutnotgay]

Why not just peach's Untold Tale like just subtracting the mario is missing part. Makes more sense

[MPLDAM9919]

Attention. Name of the game will be changed to "He is Missing: Peachy Untold Tale". I will upload this change soon. ALL SAVE GAMES MIGHT BE LOST. its NOT my fault, but just to avoid DMCA notices. This IS NOT a Nitend0 game but people can think it is. So its just to make it clear.
We have a free mind (either a nuclear war cant change this), so, for us, its still Mario and Peach. 'Peach' will be still referenced in the game, but officially, 'He is Missing - Peachy Untold Tale' is the name now. I dont have to reinforce that EVERY art is made from scratch by fans, but the problem is that Nintend0 and 'clean' Mario fans are searching for kid games and our adult parody game is being listed. Thats not good for Nintend0 because its for a familial audience, so I understand. If I am a father, I woudlnt like my kid to find porn games so easily and linked to family-game enterprises. Nintend0 knows that parody games in fact help them (I, myself, bought a WII console and a cartridge those days, and I own a super famicom since years ago, just ask Quiz about this). But we dont want too explicit features linked to this enterprise.

Why not just call the game "Peach's Untold Tale"? The "He is Missing" part sounds kind of stupid to be honest.

[Toyloli]

I agree, drop the intro and just say "Peach's Untold Tale'

[Ivan-Aedler]

I agree, drop the intro and just say "Peach's Untold Tale'

DONE.
Just to repeat what I've said on page 1: NEWGROUNDS is analysing the new name/references, so the game ISN'T available there ultil days later and I dont have this control. This proceeding is being done just to unlink 'Mari0 is Missing' from Nintend0 with 'Mari0 is Missing' from PUT.

[Estus]

True, haha. Is this a record or something?

[coolness32]

It's been a while since I've been here but it was nice catching up on everything, well, as much as I could catch up anyways. I have something for you Ivan, it's not done yet but it's something I was making for you way back when you had yet to add the market.

Wow so its a surprise! For sure I'll appreciate it! You're great! For sure I'll check it , I believe in you

Sadly I didn't get to work on it today like I wanted to but something real good happened to me so I am super happy! I know now that I will be able to work on it tomorrow!



Just want to put in that I really dislike what Nintendo is doing about the name thing. I can only assume that you got some sort of warning about it. Especially since you are using 0's in place of o's. (I dislike big corporations though so I am very harsh when things like this happen.)

[QuizmasterBos]

It's been a while since I've been here but it was nice catching up on everything, well, as much as I could catch up anyways. I have something for you Ivan, it's not done yet but it's something I was making for you way back when you had yet to add the market.

Wow so its a surprise! For sure I'll appreciate it! You're great! For sure I'll check it , I believe in you

Sadly I didn't get to work on it today like I wanted to but something real good happened to me so I am super happy! I know now that I will be able to work on it tomorrow!



Just want to put in that I really dislike what Nintendo is doing about the name thing. I can only assume that you got some sort of warning about it. Especially since you are using 0's in place of o's. (I dislike big corporations though so I am very harsh when things like this happen.)

Ivan didn't get a warning directly. I checked Newgrounds yesterday and it said that MiM PUT (we can still shorten it, right?) was removed by the moderators. No reason given.
I told Ivan and he got a message from Tom Fulp who stated that they got a complaint from Nintendo, who now suddenly wants all Nintendo-related stuff removed. That is why the game's name has been changed.

I am pretty sure we are safe here though, Nintend0 (doing this just for you, Ivan) just goes to the most popular sites and inputs search commands in the search bar.
They don't scour the internet.

That's why I think Ivan is blowing this a little out of proportion.

Also, what the heck is wrong with Nintend0 in the past few months? They started becoming ultra protective of their IPs. First they stop people from making money on Let's Plays containing their games (which they reverted), then they ban Super Smash Bros. Melee from being played at this tournament (which they later say was a 'joke'). Now this. It's like their playing a sick joke on us and I don't like it. What happened to good publicity?

[theblacknphbutnotgay]

nintindo may be turning into square enix and wanna eliminate all things that may be better than theirs... i still remember that guy was remaking chrono trigger in 3d and they made sure he never took another step, all the guy had at the time was a trailer for it looked good

not to mention nintindo's mario is missing was HORRIBLE so it was probably much less popular than this game making people that type it in google get porn lol. pretty cool


FOOTBALL SEASON IS NEAR GO PEYTON MANNING

[Calpico]

nintindo may be turning into square enix and wanna eliminate all things that may be better than theirs... i still remember that guy was remaking chrono trigger in 3d and they made sure he never took another step, all the guy had at the time was a trailer for it looked good

not to mention nintindo's mario is missing was HORRIBLE so it was probably much less popular than this game making people that type it in google get porn lol. pretty cool


FOOTBALL SEASON IS NEAR GO PEYTON MANNING

considering Mario Is Missing was an educational game n developed for the NES initially, it's no surprise that a game developed after it would be better. they just want to protect their ownership on the game.
as for the Chrono Trigger project, I'm guessing you're talking about this?

[VintageBass]

Ivan didn't get a warning directly. I checked Newgrounds yesterday and it said that MiM PUT (we can still shorten it, right?) was removed by the moderators. No reason given.
I told Ivan and he got a message from Tom Fulp who stated that they got a complaint from Nintendo, who now suddenly wants all Nintendo-related stuff removed. That is why the game's name has been changed.

I am pretty sure we are safe here though, Nintend0 (doing this just for you, Ivan) just goes to the most popular sites and inputs search commands in the search bar.
They don't scour the internet.

That's why I think Ivan is blowing this a little out of proportion.

It does seem weird that this is happening. I know that we have the ability to come up with these parodies and support the companies making these games, but I don't see why this is a good thing. Why punish your fans for making a simple porn game for little to no money, relying on other fans for their own contributions and doing it for, again, little to no money? It doesn't seem fair to be punishing us when you're not making money off of something that was made for free.

For the name, I do like that it's "Peach's Untold Story" instead of what Ivan suggested because it's a bizarre title. And this is coming from the guy who made two of the most simplistic titles for his fan-fictions (Really it's "A (xxx) Story" in the name... and think xxxHolic on the naming), but I do like the more simple title.

Also, what the heck is wrong with Nintend0 in the past few months? They started becoming ultra protective of their IPs. First they stop people from making money on Let's Plays containing their games (which they reverted), then they ban Super Smash Bros. Melee from being played at this tournament (which they later say was a 'joke'). Now this. It's like their playing a sick joke on us and I don't like it. What happened to good publicity?

But isn't bad publicity good as well? I don't know. But what I can guess it might be from them not getting any money out of the stuff. I could be wrong. It is a weird thing indeed and I don't get their line of thinking at all. I know about the LP problem, but not allowing Melee to be play at a tournament? That's... really odd.

Hopefully things will get themselves straighten out.

not to mention nintindo's mario is missing was HORRIBLE so it was probably much less popular than this game making people that type it in google get porn lol. pretty cool

Nearly all of the educational Mario games are terrible. But without them, there would be far less YTP, memes, and other of funny stuff to make fun of. Hey, not everyone can create 100% good stuff all the time.

FOOTBALL SEASON IS NEAR GO PEYTON MANNING

1) Who cares?
2) At least it's someone that's not Tebow
3) Who cares?

[Ivan-Aedler]

True, haha. Is this a record or something?

Record? Which meaning? A place with common words? Yes. Thats just because let's say a Beatles cover band is getting more known than Beetles themselves because of a google search. Beatles can issue a YMCA.

For the name, I do like that it's "Peach's Untold Story" instead of what Ivan suggested because it's a bizarre title. And this is coming from the guy who made two of the most simplistic titles for his fan-fictions (Really it's "A (xxx) Story" in the name... and think xxxHolic on the naming), but I do like the more simple title.

I do know about these fictions

FOOTBALL SEASON IS NEAR GO PEYTON MANNING

1) Who cares? 2) At least it's someone that's not Tebow 3) Who cares?

Hey, football season! 'He's taken the ball!!! He's running! He's....under 20 guys but he did it!'

Sadly I didn't get to work on it today like I wanted to but something real good happened to me so I am super happy! I know now that I will be able to work on it tomorrow!

Great, thank you!

Just want to put in that I really dislike what Nintendo is doing about the name thing. I can only assume that you got some sort of warning about it. Especially since you are using 0's in place of o's. (I dislike big corporations though so I am very harsh when things like this happen.)

Yes I change o to 0 just to avoid the name in search results, as MIM is really a trademark of an educational game (I can admit, I havent finished it yet, but I do have all SMB1,2,3 series and I cant regret them). I never imagined some parody games on LOK and newgrounds being more requested and searched than Nintend0 games. Its like we are trying to develop interesting ideas they havent. Is this bad at all?

Ivan didn't get a warning directly. I checked Newgrounds yesterday and it said that MiM PUT (we can still shorten it, right?) was removed by the moderators. No reason given.
I told Ivan and he got a message from Tom Fulp who stated that they got a complaint from Nintendo, who now suddenly wants all Nintendo-related stuff removed. That is why the game's name has been changed.

Only to clarify, Tom Fulp is the founder of Newgrounds.
There are many (MANY!) Mario parody games elsewhere (XXX or not) and Nintend0 can't just remove all of them. Its like you are making The Doors band more known, as you're a fan at heart, then The Doors slapping in your face for no reason. If they do that, parody games will not be a peaceful place for indie attempts anymore, as people can't express themselves anymore. Its like a slavery. You play, say, Halo 3, then you have interesting ideas for a simplier remake. Halo 3 team doesnt want to recruit you, but you have time and you know coding. You create an interesting version, people like it, then Halo 3 team detects that people are more interested in the remake than their own game. Its like Halo 3 team saying: 'I didnt make a so interesting game but we had profit. But wait. He did a good version and free!! He cant! Its OUR game, we have the rights and we need the money. We are the official source. Delete it now!'

If this starts to happen, I envision movements on the streets about freedom involving expressionism and parodies of titles people really loved and payed for. Enterprises MIGHT (not WILL) end up being hated by their own fans.

I am pretty sure we are safe here though, Nintend0 (doing this just for you, Ivan) just goes to the most popular sites and inputs search commands in the search bar. They don't scour the internet.

Well, I am just a fan. We already seen Playshapes himself and 50 other coders making expansions, remakes of remakes of remakes and artists doing that all the time with Mario. If people insist on the parodies, that's because fans love the original. Parodies make us remember the games we PAYED for, and played. And this is indeed good for the enterprise. Let's say they order me to stop either way. 'Aedler: Stop!' They cant avoid 20 Russians, 5 chineses, 15 Us and even more, scattered along the world to make more parody games

[MPLDAM9919]

The whole situation seems odd to me. Why would Nintend0 want fan made games (E-rated or not) removed? It shows that fans love their games and they can't really do anything about these parody games. I highly doubt they are turning into Square and I'll still play their games not matter what happens.

[VintageBass]

True, haha. Is this a record or something?

Record? Which meaning? A place with common words? Yes. Thats just because let's say a Beetles cover band is getting more known than Beetles themselves because of a google search. Beetles can issue an YMCA.

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

... What?

You got that wrong. 1) The term is "DMCA" (I don't recall any of the Beatles opening a YMCA) and really 2) whoever holds the rights to the songs controls the DMCA handouts, and I think those people are more crazy in their power than some others. Heck, the Beatles are a good example since they (along with AC/DC and others, I think) being one of the few bands with tight holds on their songs.

And I'm not sure about the record myself. I guess it could be for reaching 400 pages (and shortly 8000 posts), so maybe that's what he's saying. Or maybe it's just the streak for going for a long time before Ninten comes in. And I'm pretty sure that's both a good thing and a bad thing.

FOOTBALL SEASON IS NEAR GO PEYTON MANNING

1) Who cares? 2) At least it's someone that's not Tebow 3) Who cares?

Hey, football season! 'He's taken the ball!!! He's running! He's....under 20 guys but he did it!'

I only said that because some of us are not really into sports (I do have a strange attraction for baseball. That could be because of me liking math). I do want the Miami Dolphins to do good, even if their new logo sucks

Yes I change o to 0 just to avoid the name in search results, as MIM is really a tradermark of an educational game (I can admit, I havent finished it yet, but I do have all SMB1,2,3 series and I cant regret them). I never imagined LOK and newgrounds could be someday more...requested and searched than Nintend0 games. Its like we are trying to develop interesting ideas they havent.

Which is sad because while, as I said above, these good creators will come up with something horrible and a good majority of time the fans will have something better in mind than the companies creating the stuff. Granted everyone will fall into prey into Sturgeon's Law, but at least there is that 10% worth searching

There are many (MANY!) Mario parody games elsewhere (XXX or not) and Nintend0 can't just remove all of them. Its like you are making The Doors band more known, as you're a fan at heart, then The Doors slapping in your face for no reason. If they do that, parody games will not be a peaceful place for indie attempts anymore, as people can't express themselves anymore. Its like a slavery. You play, say, Halo 3, then you have interesting ideas for an expansion. Halo 3 team doesnt want to recruit you, but you have time and you know coding. You create an interesting MOD, people like it, then Halo 3 team detects that people are more interested in the MOD than their own game. Its like Halo 3 team saying: 'I didnt make a so interesting game but we had profit. But wait. He did a good MOD and free!! He cant! Its OUR game, we have the rights and we need the money. We are the official source. Delete it now!'

If one Mario parody goes, another few takes its place.

And I think the Halo thing is a bit of a bad thing. Granted I don't own Halo but I know there's plenty of fan-made stuff for the game, so I think Bungie is cool with allowing that sort of thing. Heck I remember seeing contests being made using custom-made courses to win armor. Plus if that's the case, there won't be certain series made as well. Plus I can recall there were mods that become their own full games. It's a weird situation, but I know most companies are fine with mods as long there isn't a profit being made off of them.

If this start to happen, I envision strikes on the streets about freedom of speech and ideas. Enterprises MIGHT (not WILL) end up being hated by their own fans.

That's a bit of over-exaggeration. Sure there are fans that will complain about not being allow the access to make fan-projects, but to riot in the streets over freedom of speech? ... Well to certain people that would be a bad thing to give them that sort of speech, but it's still a little silly to imagine that. Plus there are companies being hated because they're being total dicks to their fans (I can name a few), so this is going on no matter what.

The whole situation seems odd to me. Why would Nintend0 want fan made games (E-rated or not) removed? It shows that fans love their games and they can't really do anything about these parody games. I highly doubt they are turning into Square and I'll still play their games not matter what happens.

Exactly. Heck I'll still play Square games myself (even if they're not that anymore) even if they're being dicks themselves. Granted I'm not a big fan of either companies, I'll still give their games a try because perhaps they struck something interesting to me. Why deny fans the right to create support for the company and products they like? It's bad business if you're not allowing your fans to give support through whatever means. Just seeing that someone is making a game of their own should give you motivation to make something new and better than your old product, just to get these fans to keep coming back. Not allowing these people the right to create is denying people a chance to come back and buy your product. That's not exactly a good business practice.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Only to inform, I am resting, moving and I am still coding as always. When I reach home, I'll finish 4-5 (underwater area).
I will just post more and code less during the moving. I am liking the discussion.

YMCA

Oh no!

The term is "DMCA" ... I think those people are more crazy in their power than some others. Heck, the Beatles are a good example since they (along with AC/DC and others, I think) being one of the few bands with tight holds on their songs.

Yes DMCA.

And I'm not sure about the record myself. I guess it could be for reaching 400 pages (and shortly 8000 posts), so maybe that's what he's saying.

Well I am amazed, but like I said before, there are several forums around there whose project thread pages are bigger than 4,000 (yes, 80,000 posts!) and that just means people are participating more around there, giving more feedback. We can search for a given discussion inside the thread, so no problem to have long ones. You know I sometimes link a given feature with a given post (e.g. 'Quiz said that on page 153'). This is nice for the brain too (we dont forget useful things said before).

(Having more interesting parodies from official games) -> Which is sad because while, as I said above, these good creators will come up with something horrible and a good majority of time the fans will have something better in mind than the companies creating the stuff. Granted everyone will fall into prey into Sturgeon's Law, but at least there is that 10% worth searching.

Really interesting. Its like Murphy's law or Moore's Law, even not being proven by axioms.

If one Mario parody goes, another few takes its place.

That's how it happens.

And I think the Halo thing is a bit of a bad thing. Granted I don't own Halo but I know there's plenty of fan-made stuff for the game, so I think Bungie is cool with allowing that sort of thing. Heck I remember seeing contests being made using custom-made courses to win armor. Plus if that's the case, there won't be certain series made as well. Plus I can recall there were mods that become their own full games. It's a weird situation, but I know most companies are fine with mods as long there isn't a profit being made off of them.

Thats the idea. We can fully agree that, if a given parody game is more interesting to play than some originals, thats just because fans created it in a way they would prefer better. Fans should be listened to more. A true feedback from the enterprise. We really PLAY the game with our heart, sometimes more than ten times, trying to find hidden items. Creators own the game, and they can test the game, but testing <> playing at home with a fresh mind with your friends. Just look at society. Who make the law? A few people? In a true democracy, all people counts.

That's a bit of over-exaggeration. Sure there are fans that will complain about not being allow the access to make fan-projects, but to riot in the streets over freedom of speech?

Sorry I edited the whole post above with better words. I was in a hurry.

... Well to certain people that would be a bad thing to give them that sort of speech, but it's still a little silly to imagine that. Plus there are companies being hated because they're being total dicks to their fans (I can name a few), so this is going on no matter what.

Gearbox is one.

I'll still give their games a try because perhaps they struck something interesting to me. Why deny fans the right to create support for the company and products they like? It's bad business if you're not allowing your fans to give support through whatever means. Just seeing that someone is making a game of their own should give you motivation to make something new and better than your old product, just to get these fans to keep coming back.

And more, Nintend0 can get free resources or their own resources, make a 'Mario: Peach Told Tale', using our ideas and sell it. It will attract fans who loved PUT so far. We fans dont mind. we will actually buy it (again). We work as scientists, doctors, nurses, supermarket chiefs, lawyers, cowboys, painters, singers, mages, astronauts, even in the military. We just want to play, like in the golden children times, when we get home. Now, if they dont make good games, of course people will search for other games. Give food to people and they will crowd. And the interesting (and funny) thing is that we can get games for free, respecting fair use, with tons of levels and features, using collaborative work, without a single penny. This is a synergic thing no one can destroy. Its powerful. Just see Linux, ReactOS, GIMP, OpenOffice, Blender and others. Man, This is beautiful. This is our souls crying for novelties, adventure and freedom to express ourselves This is the power of people, that came from people, and its for people.

[MPLDAM9919]

To get back on topic, the dress in the X-Naut base is missing. I had to walk around the base nude (not that's a bad thing. But it defeats the choice of walking around clothed or not).

[Calpico]

And more, Nintend0 can get free resources or their own resources, make a 'Mario: Peach Told Tale', using our ideas and sell it. It will attract fans who loved PUT so far. We fans dont mind. we will actually buy it (again). Now, if they dont make good games, of course people will search for other games. Give food to people and they will crowd. And the interesting (and funny) thing is that we can get games for free, respecting fair use, with tons of levels and features, using collaborative work, without a single penny.

a game where Peach is the main character such as Super Princess Peach? if they make another Peach game, they wouldn't base it on the simple platformer your game is. the only thing that separates it from other games is that it has sexual content in it. if you take that out, it would likely be one of the nicer-looking free platformers.
n with free games, most aren't as interesting, pretty, unique, or well-made as the games made by companies

[Ivan-Aedler]

To get back on topic, the dress in the X-Naut base is missing. I had to walk around the base nude (not that's a bad thing. But it defeats the choice of walking around clothed or not).

Hmm I'll check it.

A game where Peach is the main character such as Super Princess Peach? if they make another Peach game, they wouldn't base it on the simple platformer your game is. The only thing that separates it from other games is that it has sexual content in it. if you take that out, it would likely be one of the nicer-looking free platformers.

I see. Of course, enterprises want to innovate. They dont want to risk themselves by making sequels using the same platform and maybe the similar story. They fear the game not giving enough profit. They prefer to invest more in a different game engine and feel. Well, in classic times, SMB1, SMB2 and SMB3 all were platformers, and all were very successful (except for SMB2, which was...at least good, interesting - I still have it). As about other games with tons of sequels/episodes using the same engine, Command Keen was also a success. More than 7 games/episodes, each one was sold like an unicque game and new features/areas. I would like to see a Princess Peach game with Paper Mario TTYD or a New Super Mario Bros feeling. But again, they choose what they want. I can't just ask them. Mario fans just have to wait (sometimes a lot) to get PART of what they expect. E.g. some wanted to see Peach love Mario (both dating, with hearts, with feelings). We may never see this officially.

With free games, most aren't as interesting, pretty, unique, or well-made as the games made by companies

Of course not. Enterprises pay developers, scripters and artists (and pay well) for the game to be crystal clear. But we can also make good games, even with more features, provided people get enough free time to help. An interesting Mario game (although pixelated) is the Flash Game 'Super Mario 63' (its not 3D but it has interesting features). It was made from scratch as well, without any need of a business system.

[coolness32]

Sadly I didn't get to work on it today like I wanted to but something real good happened to me so I am super happy! I know now that I will be able to work on it tomorrow!

Great, thank you!

I'm working on it now, it won't be done in a day like I thought though. But at least I'm working on it, instead of sitting here doing whatever it is that I waste my time with all day...

I wanted to also tell you that it's a concept drawing, just in case you thought it was something made with flash. Don't wanna disappoint you with it being non-flash.