Hentai: Peach's Untold Tale 3.48 (Nov 2/18) - HIATUS

[QuizmasterBos]

I like the idea of Peach's reaction changing depending on the status. On the matter of Rosalina's personality, I find it interesting you see her that way. What I got from the game is that Rosalina was very intelligent and proper due to being an (at least to me) implied immortal.

I found her to be naive because the game specifically says that Rosalina was a child when she started looking after the Lumas. I don't recall ever seeing anything that implied that she is immortal.

Let me explain, Rosalina is NOT immortal. She travelled via a spaceship to the galaxies when she was a mere child (around 7,8 years old or so).
Some years have passed and she is now a grown-up. However, she never did learn about female reproduction, so all the stuff that has happened around then would be confusing and unknown to her. Basically the mind of a child inside the body of an adult.

Well, first of all, even they being children, they dont need to be weak like babies in real life. More, why we need to follow the expected rules in real life towards mushroom kingdom and other fairy lands in MIM PUT, where Peach can get into small vases, and jump higher than her height? And why we need to make Lumas as babies? Why not making them teens or even adults with no aging (they dont die), but still requiring milk to bright more in order to GRANT wishes, and bring happiness to the land?

Whoa, let me step right in. Lumas are baby stars, who eventually can change their form into various objects. It depends on the kind of Luma though:
Yellow Lumas can become Launch Stars and even Power Stars and Grand Stars!
Blue Lumas can become Pull Stars.
Pink Lumas can become planets and even Galaxies!

So, like Thatguy said, the Lumas "adult forms" are basically the objects around you and the "baby form" is what you know them by. But that is stating it very simple as it is more complicated than that. One thing that IS true though is that Lumas have children's minds.

So to put it simply, we can't make adult Lumas.

And I guess Rosalina isn't immortal, but the stories we hear in the Library make it seem like she's been traveling a lot longer then her age appears.
Again, What I'm saying probably isn't completely correct, but I've been remembering theses things like this for a while now.

Rosalina is actually a skilled mechanic. She fixes the Lumas spaceship all by herself and even builds the ship she travels on in SMG!

Actually, the handle just looks heh? I'd redesign the handle to look like an actual vibe. Take your pick of design. (I like the fourth one myself)

Ok it could be 4 and 7.
May I create a way to change the handle? We are the player, we can do everything then say: take it Peach, its your scepter!

We could do this, but honestly I like the idea of Peach using the scepter as is. It makes it more magical for me. But to each their own.

[Ivan-Aedler]

I kinda feel bad for Peach now because she has to do and take whatever you throw at her, but then i remember that she enjoys it all and even wants more and so my spirit rest in peace

Dont feel like this. Actually, we create features for Peach to be surprised or to try it by curiosity.

Let me explain, Rosalina is NOT immortal. She travelled via a spaceship to the galaxies when she was a mere child (around 7,8 years old or so). Some years have passed and she is now a grown-up. However, she never did learn about female reproduction, so all the stuff that has happened around then would be confusing and unknown to her. Basically the mind of a child inside the body of an adult.

We can retain that personality here.

Whoa, let me step right in. Lumas are baby stars, who eventually can change their form into various objects. It depends on the kind of Luma though:
Yellow Lumas can become Launch Stars and even Power Stars and Grand Stars!
Blue Lumas can become Pull Stars.
Pink Lumas can become planets and even Galaxies!

Wow. Is that right? I dont like that feature so much. But it might be only me. I expected them to be adult after thousands or even millions of years, not, say, 20 years or less. This doesnt make sense (well, in mushroom kingdom all is possible). Ok its cute that personality/expected things, and as the creators did it, and you and many that played Mario Galaxy get used to this (as its magical and special like SMRPG plot, although, again, I didnt like the 'flying cab' thing - why not using a giant balloon), If I try to change Luma features, lumas in my game wont be the same lumas in their game. But this IS a XXX game, so creating other features of Lumas MIGHT not do harm. There are MANY parody games with side features that, actually, became better than even the original! (I've told you this already). However, we can still retain the plot above (breastfeeding then tearing Peach bra). The only restraint is the same with baby bloopers: no penetrative/abusive scenes with them (penetration, etc). Breastfeeding is not a problem. Getting embarassed and running away, neither.

So to put it simply, we can't make adult Lumas.

We can. But it will diverge from the original, and as I know you want to retain the most proximity to the ideas (even though I keep reminding you that all these ideas was made from HUMANS, not gods), as I know you want to retain it (and probably other Mario gamers), so its up to us to think about anything else to keep the same magic. But the breastfeeding scene is arousing and it can be a button. (remember What ifs?) In this case, 'Make it Happen!' Then lumas would start jumping from Rosalina towards Peach.

If you have a better arousing idea, I'm listening. But really, we must not try to refrain everything just because "its not good", etc, etc.... and, at the same time, dont giving a good alternative. This refrains me from developing. Its almost like a small punch in the face 'Ivan, Dont do this!'.

Rosalina is actually a skilled mechanic. She fixes the Lumas spaceship all by herself and even builds the ship she travels on in SMG!

This is really nice and interesting. She can also meet E.gadd and exchange info. And we can infer that Sir Grodus might be stealing some of their science to do evil, but this is another story.

We could do this, but honestly I like the idea of Peach using the scepter as is. It makes it more magical for me. But to each their own.

Ok then! I dont mind. But if people start asking for it so bad, I'll add it. For you, just dont configure the scepter handler.

I hope you've read the earlier pages so you can give your opinion. I know things are bit fast here, and I know I wont be so present during my hard work times (job projects outside of flash games), so get the most of it while we have plenty of time. I dont want you to just find tons of new things in MIM PUT then ask me: 'HEY!! How and why are these here?'

And remember I might be doing a kind of Questionaire (actually a 'crossing yes/no' list) with things people like in Mario games and people dont like, with explanations why they dont like (I will also fill it in). So the more people fills it in, the more I will know each other preferences, and we can reach an agreement in order to make this game more enjoyable.

[QuizmasterBos]

Whoa, let me step right in. Lumas are baby stars, who eventually can change their form into various objects. It depends on the kind of Luma though:
Yellow Lumas can become Launch Stars and even Power Stars and Grand Stars!
Blue Lumas can become Pull Stars.
Pink Lumas can become planets and even Galaxies!

Wow. Hehe. I dont know what Miyamoto was doing when he thought this (I'm not saying I hate this feature but man... after seeing those giant planets with Mario head, everything is possible)
Ok its cute that personality/expected things, and as the creators did it, and you and many that played Mario Galaxy get used to this (as its magical and special like SMRPG plot), If I try to change this, lumas in my game wont be the same lumas in their game. But this IS a XXX game, so creating other features of Lumas MIGHT not do harm. However, we can still retain the plot above (breastfeeding then tearing Peach bra). The only restraint is the same with baby bloopers: no penetrative/abusive scenes with them (penetration, etc). Breastfeeding is not a problem. Getting embarassed and running away, neither.

Yes, but we can't make them grow into an adult form and we don't need to. Not everything in this game would have to be porn.

So to put it simply, we can't make adult Lumas.

We can. But it will diverge from the original, and as I know you want to retain the most proximity to the ideas (even though I keep reminding you that all these ideas was made from HUMANS, gods), as I know you want to retain it (and probably other Mario gamers), so its up to us to think about anything else to keep the same magic. But the breastfeeding scene is arousing and it can be a button. (remember What ifs?) In this case, 'Make it Happen!' Then lumas would start jumping from Rosalina towards Peach.

I couldn't get off to that. In my mind I know these are still kids, I couldn't see them as adults. 't Would be unsettling.

If you have a better arousing idea, I'm listening. But really, we must not try to refrain everything just because "its not good", etc, etc.... and, at the same time, dont giving a good alternative. This refrains me from developing. Its almost like a small slap in the face 'Ivan, Dont do this!'.

Well, Lumas eat, but they aren't breastfed, they eat Star Bits. Star Bits are edible for humans as well. So the problem is that nothing really amounts to something sexual or what could be perceived as sexual. Unless the Lumas started thinking that breast milk is good for them to. If you are wondering about the taste of Star Bits, they apparently taste like honey. So they're very sweet.

I hope you've read the earlier pages so you can give your opinion. I know things are bit fast here, and I know I wont be so present during my hard work times (job projects outside of flash games), so get the most of it while we have plenty of time. I dont want you to just find tons of new things in MIM PUT then ask me: 'HEY!! How and why are these here?'

I do read the previous pages, I do it all the time. The thread just grows that fast. I sure hope it doesn't come to a conflict.

And remember I might be doing a kind of Questionaire (actually a 'crossing yes/no' list) with things people like in Mario games and people dont like, with explanations why they dont like (I will also fill it in). So the more people fills it in, the more I will know each other preferences, and we can reach an agreement in order to make this game more enjoyable.

Sure, you'll think up some good questions and I will review them.

[Thatguy45]

@Ivan
I understand that all this stuff is just ideas right now, and that this is a XXX game, so liberties can be taken, but with all the stuff about Galaxy, I urge you to play it before making too many decisions. I'm probably overreacting though. And the Mario-shaped planet only occurs in the second game, and even then, just as a spaceship/hubworld.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Yes, but we can't make them grow into an adult form and we don't need to. Not everything in this game would have to be porn.

I agree. But people like it (me included). Its only a matter of ACTIVATING the scenes or not.
See, I can make this game MUCH faster without any porn. But I DO WANT to create XXX features, because ITS still the main reason here. You can play the game without activating those, though. The game can be only 10% xxx, if you stomp / throw fireballs/veggies on enemies and dont activate , say, the throne.
So, again, I see no problem of adding breastfeeding.
Actually, I prefer making 100 scenes (that is, feed feed feed features), then filter them, put 'activate' buttons, 'make it happen' buttons (as being unexpected scenes but still nice to see), etc.
Again and again. I'll end up just adding features and filtering later, otherwise I will stop making them and this will lower my creativity.

It's like 9-1. I've created it without any consultation. And it is a nice level, albeit incomplete.

I couldn't get off to that. In my mind I know these are still kids, I couldn't see them as adults. 't Would be unsettling.

(I've corrected above. "HUMANS, NOT GODS").
No problem. I DONT WANT to change people minds about Mario games. I've played Super Mario RPG and I know that. I would be even angry if someone tries to change , say, Booster or Peach features 'so much' (I dont care if just 'a bit'). So that's why we're discussing this here. So, again, breastfeeding with them as kids wont do harm.

Well, Lumas eat, but they aren't breastfed, they eat Star Bits. Star Bits are edible for humans as well. So the problem is that nothing really amounts to something sexual or what could be perceived as sexual. Unless the Lumas started thinking that breast milk is good for them to. If you are wondering about the taste of Star Bits, they apparently taste like honey. So they're very sweet.

So lets make them think breast milk is good for them. Actually lets them discover that drinking milk make them stronger to grant wishes.
And do they taste like honey? Nice to know that

I do read the previous pages, I do it all the time. The thread just grows that fast. I sure hope it doesn't come to a conflict.

I hope too. Well, then you can say in newer posts, in case you're late: "I've read the pages I didnt appear, and for me thats okay, thats why I didnt respond". I will start doing this.

Questionary: Sure, you'll think up some good questions and I will review them.

Ok then!

@Ivan - I understand that all this stuff is just ideas right now, and that this is a XXX game, so liberties can be taken, but with all the stuff about Galaxy, I urge you to play it before making too many decisions. I'm probably overreacting though. And the Mario-shaped planet only occurs in the second game, and even then, just as a spaceship/hubworld.

It's a plan for me to play it. But so much later after Sunshine, because I'm just TIRED of seeing Peach getting kidnapped and Mario (that is, US) trying anything, full of sweat and hard work, only to see her say 'THANK YOU'. That's over for me. Anyway dont worry, I wont be just creating features without knowing the game. Quiz is guiding me. As for Lumas, for now, I only needed to explain my intentions about breastfeeding, to make that area interesting, and to avoid me from 'just making it' and letting people surprised ('hey, why did you do that?'). I know its my game and all, but first, I dont like to say that (I'm just a developer, and others help me all the time), so I dont like to give the impression I'm a dictator and I only want what I decide.

[Toyloli]

Shall I suggest an alternative that may not have been considered.

In Yaoi and shotacon there is a massive drawcard for boys who are late teens (not yet adult, but no longer a child) desiring the 'mother figure' and especially her breasts.
You could go that way with these stars, large stars who are clearly not children with dialog that implies the 'Miss' the motherly thing and are latching onto Peach cause she looks motherly.

The best way to go with this is to make the stars up to a third ot Peach's height in size, And to make the dialog fit the theme.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Finished! (Boggly tree - inner area mapping)
WARNING: Paper Mario 2 SPOILER. You can see it if you didnt play the game yet, but 'quickly', otherwise you will pay much attention and it will spoil you.

I wont recreate it 100% equal. And I wont create all the rooms. Actually, it will more plain, It should be more vertical due to the tree itself.

Spoiler (click to show/hide):

We can see that each Chapter of Paper Mario 2 have almost that amount of rooms

[Toyloli]

That's a mess of images.

[Ivan-Aedler]

That's a mess of images.

The original is a BIG PNG (4000x4000). I'll get some inspirations from them. I wonder how it will be shown in colored nature mode (you know, brown tree/trunks, green leaves etc)

Shall I suggest an alternative that may not have been considered. You could go that way with these stars, large stars who are clearly not children with dialog that implies the 'Miss' the motherly thing and are latching onto Peach cause she looks motherly. The best way to go with this is to make the stars up to a third ot Peach's height in size, And to make the dialog fit the theme.

No problem for me.

[QuizmasterBos]

I couldn't get off to that. In my mind I know these are still kids, I couldn't see them as adults. 't Would be unsettling.

(I've corrected above. "HUMANS, NOT GODS").
No problem. I DONT WANT to change people minds about Mario games. I've played Super Mario RPG and I know that. I would be even angry if someone tries to change , say, Booster or Peach features 'so much' (I dont care if just 'a bit'). So that's why we're discussing this here. So, again, breastfeeding with them as kids wont do harm.

Breastfeeding would be okay, but that is the most I think we can get away with morally.

Well, Lumas eat, but they aren't breastfed, they eat Star Bits. Star Bits are edible for humans as well. So the problem is that nothing really amounts to something sexual or what could be perceived as sexual. Unless the Lumas started thinking that breast milk is good for them to. If you are wondering about the taste of Star Bits, they apparently taste like honey. So they're very sweet.

So lets make them think breast milk is good for them. Actually lets them discover that drinking milk make them stronger to grant wishes.
And do they taste like honey? Nice to know that

In SMG, you have to give a lot of Star Bits to pink Lumas and then they get enough strength to TRANSFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM!
So yeah, they could think the same for breast milk.

Shall I suggest an alternative that may not have been considered. You could go that way with these stars, large stars who are clearly not children with dialog that implies the 'Miss' the motherly thing and are latching onto Peach cause she looks motherly. The best way to go with this is to make the stars up to a third ot Peach's height in size, And to make the dialog fit the theme.

No problem for me.

Actually, Lumas grow fat (filled with Star Bits to transform into really big things and then only the pink kind, but not big in general. However, there is a Giant kind of Luma, so it seems it could happen. The Luma that resides inside Mario's hat is actually much smaller, he is apparently an actualy baby Luma.

So the problem is that Lumas are particularly difficult to read, but in my perspective we know these things:
- Lumas aren't babies, but they have a children's mind
- They love Star Bits
- There seems to be a MUCH bigger kind of Luma, but this is never explained how it could happen (only appears on a galaxy called Supermassive Galaxy, so it might be because of that)
- There can be baby Lumas but we know of one only. It also cannot speak as the other Lumas can
- There are 10 known colors of Luma and each Luma has a specific ability or purpose.


I am busy making 4-1, but I think it is time to think about creating the Wiggler enemy next. It would fit nicely in 4-1.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Breastfeeding would be okay, but that is the most I think we can get away with morally. In SMG, you have to give a lot of Star Bits to pink Lumas and then they get enough strength to TRANSFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM! So yeah, they could think the same for breast milk.

Ok, I'll make the scene later.

I am busy making 4-1, but I think it is time to think about creating the Wiggler enemy next. It would fit nicely in 4-1.

Those ones?

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[QuizmasterBos]

Breastfeeding would be okay, but that is the most I think we can get away with morally. In SMG, you have to give a lot of Star Bits to pink Lumas and then they get enough strength to TRANSFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM! So yeah, they could think the same for breast milk.

Ok, I'll make the scene later.

I am busy making 4-1, but I think it is time to think about creating the Wiggler enemy next. It would fit nicely in 4-1.

Those ones?

wiggler.swf

wiggler.swf

He could be a bit more colorful and his face could use some work, but yes.

[Inky3]

For the wiggler scenes, are you going to make ones where he is angry as well?

[Ivan-Aedler]

He could be a bit more colorful and his face could use some work, but yes.

Later. But before that, did you see the original Asian and Me based this up? So its almost a perfect replica.
If this is a not so good base.... then go blame Asian. And blame yourself (in the sense you dont have to blame me). Because you know, I need CLAY to work with. Dont expect me to do wonders without a good reference. People at least should help me on that.

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For the wiggler scenes, are you going to make ones where he is angry as well?

Yes.

[QuizmasterBos]

He could be a bit more colorful and his face could use some work, but yes.

Later. But before that.
Did you see the original Asian and Me based this up? So its almost a perfect replica.
If this is a not so good base.... then go blame Asian.

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For the wiggler scenes, are you going to make ones where he is angry as well?

Yes.

Alright, I'll blame Asian then. I cannot remember him making Wiggler, but the face isn't too great.
The artwork seems to be straight from SMW though, so I can't really blame Asian either.

The extra lines under his eyes don't need to be there, you just need to make it clear that he (or she?) has cheeks.
And I know you can do it better than the artists could back for SMW.
But aside from that and the color, I think you're good.

[Ivan-Aedler]

Alright, I'll blame Asian then. I cannot remember him making Wiggler, but the face isn't too great. The artwork seems to be straight from SMW though, so I can't really blame Asian either. The extra lines under his eyes don't need to be there, you just need to make it clear that he (or she?) has cheeks. And I know you can do it better than the artists could back for SMW. But aside from that and the color, I think you're good.

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But, seriously, he did a good job. The problem is the reference itself. Super Mario RPG reference is even worse. I'll see what can be done on his cheeks.
EDIT: ok done.

[MPLDAM9919]

A quick question about the Vibe Scepter, Ivan. Is Peach going use it in her bedroom where she can masturbate in private or take it with her so she can masturbate outdoors and be embarrassed/naughty?

[Ivan-Aedler]

A quick question about the Vibe Scepter, Ivan. Is Peach going use it in her bedroom where she can masturbate in private or take it with her so she can masturbate outdoors and be embarrassed/naughty?

Both! But for now, only in her castle, because I would have to create an inventory system first, like in Bowser Castle 1. She will keep the scepter safe (in her ass, whatever place), and we will see her grabbing her scepter and using it if we activate it. However you can make both if you want.

[immanoob176]

are u uploading?

[Ivan-Aedler]

are u uploading?

What? The game itself? No. As about tht wiggler and other features I'm developing, only when its more complete.