Harem games... where are they?(Suggested game idea included)

[SuperHobo4000]

(Ignore this first post, it's just inane bullshit. Skip to my latest post for the real topic[assuming that it's been approved, yet].)

So I've been lurking for quite awhile and never really had the urge to post until ker posted his "Harem" game. It was then I questioned myself, "Hmm... Is this the first harem game I've seen on this site? Yes it is. Why is that?". So I decided to bring up the 'issue' as well as introduce my own idea for a harem game. Not gonna lie, this game will have been heavily influenced after trying out ker's game; but it will sport:

-an entirely new setting and story with AT LEAST three different paths to follow that will affect both the story itself and the sex scenes you'll see,

-options before and during sex scenes (the latter having no effect on what's unlocked in the obvious gallery mode it will have [because every H-game needs one, really they do, better for convenience of the player]),

-existing spells and abilities you and your party-mates have will become stronger or have alternate effects as the story progresses,

-new spells and abilities can be acquired through a variety of methods: leveling, training, combat, merchants, items, etc.,

-combat against women will be... different than combat against monsters and men *wink wink*,

-will use 3DCG for the porn scenes (since it's becoming the new trend and quite popular and all that),

-the women will have varying personalities (some may actually favor you choosing a darker path while others will abhor it),
--and skills (both in and out of combat [and I dont mean just sexually... perverts, jk jk]),
---and not all of them are entirely(or at all) human... *cough* furry/elf/alien *cough*...,

-inventorception (all your key items and quest items will be put in a bag that you'll find in your inventory, so you can avoid the usual clusterfuck of items when your carrying a lot of shit [now you can carry items while your carrying items... yo dawg]),

-a VERY basic crafting and enchanting system (at least until development starts),

-lootwhoring abound (loot on the enemies, loot in the barrels, loot in the toilets, loot on that old man, loot EVERYWHERE... most of it useless like a +1 ATK sword, but it's still there regardless just for your hoarding needs),

-sidequests (what more is there to say, really?),

-reputation system (higher rep with certain cities/factions/etc. will unlock more quests, lower prices from merchants, attract women/party members, etc. again),

-and finally but MOST importantly... MINI-GAMES!!! "YAY!! WOOHOO!!!" (will most likely never ever be put in the game in the entire history of mankind FOREVER! /dreamcrusher).


Yeah, that all sounds great and what not (probably not), but the one itty, bitty, tiny, little issue I'm having is I just don't have the time nor resources to make such a game. /sigh But that's why this is a request topic (as well as whatever the hell I stated earlier). Plenty of ideas, but no way of implementing them myself which I would imagine is fairly common here. Anyone with the resources, time, and competence which all three I lack is free to take any interesting idea from this topic and put it into their own game or contact me and somehow make this game work or ask for more suggestions on the game since I'm not short on ideas here and I haven't even mentioned the story at all (*hint: there are women and they get fucked a lot, mostly by the main character). Can't PM though since this is a newly registered account.

[trunks2585]

I'll spare you the usual rant and just point out things I don't like with your proposed ideas.

-an entirely new setting and story with AT LEAST three different paths to follow that will affect both the story itself and the sex scenes you'll see,

Care to go into more detail about your plans for this? A lot of moral choice system games follow the same storyline regardless and just the ending is altered, otherwise you're writing 3 different stories, and good luck making them all engaging and worth exploring. Also would you be stuck on one path all the way through or would it be like say Infamous 1/2 where you could choose to do good/bad things at key points?

-options before and during sex scenes (the latter having no effect on what's unlocked in the obvious gallery mode it will have [because every H-game needs one, really they do, better for convenience of the player]),

Again, what would these options do, what would they be for and what would they effect?

-existing spells and abilities you and your party-mates have will become stronger or have alternate effects as the story progresses,

-new spells and abilities can be acquired through a variety of methods: leveling, training, combat, merchants, items, etc.,

-combat against women will be... different than combat against monsters and men *wink wink*,

No problems here, except there should be a traditional combat option for women. After fucking the 10th random whore warrior, I'm going to be tired of the scene.

-will use 3DCG for the porn scenes (since it's becoming the new trend and quite popular and all that),

Haha, no it's not. most 3D models look like dull vacant lifeless dolls and have no real sense of art or emotion put into them, nor are they capable of displaying emotion. A talented artist can make it work yes, but then that same artist is going to convey a larger display of skill with a hand drawn a model rather than using some cheep mass produced poser model.

-the women will have varying personalities (some may actually favor you choosing a darker path while others will abhor it),
--and skills (both in and out of combat [and I dont mean just sexually... perverts, jk jk]),
---and not all of them are entirely(or at all) human... *cough* furry/elf/alien *cough*...,

Would these skills be used for puzzle solving or other things?

-inventorception (all your key items and quest items will be put in a bag that you'll find in your inventory, so you can avoid the usual clusterfuck of items when your carrying a lot of shit [now you can carry items while your carrying items... yo dawg]),

Ok so nothing new, most rpg systems put key items on a seperate tab.

-a VERY basic crafting and enchanting system (at least until development starts),

Be careful about making needlessly complicated things to even code. Even if it's just basic, just making the system work can be a weeks worth of headaches.

-lootwhoring abound (loot on the enemies, loot in the barrels, loot in the toilets, loot on that old man, loot EVERYWHERE... most of it useless like a +1 ATK sword, but it's still there regardless just for your hoarding needs),

No. It it serves no purpose other than to be there, no. It's a whole lot of extra coded bullshit that serves no real purpose and no one wants to include something in the game, that will be who knows how many lines of code, only to be told 'oh yeah this is just there for the sake of being there, we're not doing anything special with it.' Focus on the important things to the game. Like making it stuff that will sell for a lot at least, or make it so you can find items that make good presents to the girls.

-sidequests (what more is there to say, really?),

Pretty much standard and has lots of potential.

-reputation system (higher rep with certain cities/factions/etc. will unlock more quests, lower prices from merchants, attract women/party members, etc. again),

sounds good.

-and finally but MOST importantly... MINI-GAMES!!! "YAY!! WOOHOO!!!" (will most likely never ever be put in the game in the entire history of mankind FOREVER! /dreamcrusher).

I'm fine with no minigames.

Yeah, that all sounds great and what not (probably not), but the one itty, bitty, tiny, little issue I'm having is I just don't have the time nor resources to make such a game. /sigh But that's why this is a request topic (as well as whatever the hell I stated earlier). Plenty of ideas, but no way of implementing them myself which I would imagine is fairly common here. Anyone with the resources, time, and competence which all three I lack is free to take any interesting idea from this topic and put it into their own game or contact me and somehow make this game work or ask for more suggestions on the game since I'm not short on ideas here and I haven't even mentioned the story at all (*hint: there are women and they get fucked a lot, mostly by the main character). Can't PM though since this is a newly registered account.

Oh good this is where you get the lecture, scratch what I said at the start.

You clearly haven't been lurking long enough. How many 'request' threads go anywhere? How many times has this forum seen 'I got and idea for a game, but no way to make it!' What makes you think you'll be the special one to get his wish granted? Ren is working to make a game with eggplants, it's been what? 2-3 years now with nothing shown? Area 52 went through 2 teams with no solid code work for a game. And these are people that were actively working to make something on their own initiative. And you have a whole 1 post, just to ask for someone to make a game for you, so good fucking luck getting someone else to make your game, especially when as you admit, there's already a harem game being worked on.

[BlueLight]

Give me your formula for the combat and then we can talk about crafting.

[mando]

Most of this seems pretty do-able with any RPG Maker program.
Only things that might be difficult would be
-existing spells/abilities changing effects mid game.
-Alternate combat against women
-crafting/enchanting (though there's probably a script for this)
-mini games

Obviously if you've got no time to do anything you probably wouldn't have time to learn a RPG Maker program but it's a thought.
Personally it seems like you have a pretty exact idea of what you want, and unless you've got an exact script to go along with these ideas I don't think you're gonna get many people to pick this up for you.

[PenName15]

I don't think this would be easy even at RPG Maker....Unless he have experience with it - Which I doubt.

[SuperHobo4000]

You ever get those days...

I just spent a couple of hours making a response to you, trunks, going into great detail, answering all your questions and explaining the reasoning behind certain things I've listed what was roughly eight times the size of my original post and I had literally reached your last response only to have the power to my house say, "You know what would be hilarious? Me shutting off!"

Don't worry, I still plan on replying to all your responses AFTER I've calmed down and this headache goes away...

[Eggplants]

Phew I got a little sad when I heard there wasn't going to be trunks a rant :P
But hey at least you've put out your ideas to be freely taken for other projects because although as a whole this game sounds like a bit of a nightmare to put together, some of the ideas do sound worth having.

On the topic of harem games, I'm actually hoping to be a able to make one one day but with the ideas in my head I think I'll need a fair bit more experience points to take it on seeing as how much content it'll probably need.

[SuperHobo4000]

Sorry for the late response. I had started playing HOMM again and..... everything else is just a blur. Those games have always been massive time sinks for me.

This response is going to be nowhere near the length of my previous attempt because I'll be cutting out everything that doesn't have to do with my original reason for starting this topic: the current trend I'm noticing with the Legend of Krystal Forums' games. The game idea that I included is irrelevant to the actual topic and is just something I tacked on, spur of the moment. You can calm down now, trunks. I probably should of just stuck with what I wanted to discuss than to just hint at the issue and follow-up with a vague game idea. Like I said, it was spur of the moment.


What I've been noticing...
.....is that there are an abundance of "play female character that has-sex-with/gets-raped-by a variety of men/monsters" games, but not too many "play male character that has-sex-with/gets-to-rape(or-raped-by...) a variety of women/monstergirls" games. I just thought that the clear difference in ratio between the two types was kind of odd. Imagine my surprise when I go onto the LoK forums and find ker's game, "Harem":
"Wait a minute... you mean I... play as a GUY?!? WTF!?!"


From now on, I'll be more straightforward with my topics instead of trying to bring in something unrelated to what I actually wanted to discuss. This often happens when I join a new forum.