Hentay multiplayer game idea. Need your opinion + assistance

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

Hello ! I did not sleep yesterday and think about idea for the game. And i think i get one interesting idea.

What if to make world - where players can fuck each other by there chose. For example both chose that they want then fuck. If there is no players then fuck with NPC.

What is specific:
0)free game
1)2d world like in LoK game.
2)World is seporated on rooms.
3)Each room has its own chat, PM masseges are disabled - so everybody see what is happening in the room.
4)Player can send request to fuck with anybody in the room. If he or she say yes - then they chose how it will go - and then they fuck.
5)World map from Legend of krystal G (Or T).
6)Players need to eat / bath /sleap and etc - as in real life.
7)No fast moving through locations. Like in real world.
8)Fully open source project. All scripts (server and clien side) and materials will be opened from the beggining. With instruction how to start own server of the game.
9)Different sex type and sex deviation that is legal and do not make real damage to health.
10)All characters are of the same age. 18+ game.
11)Possible to play with out server - or play online.
12)All mouse drive with out keyboard (or may be chose between mouse and keyboard).
13)Small ingame world - not suported for to much players (i do not think that it will be played by a lot people at the same time).

Some think in this points can be changed.

Realization:
1)Server part = PHP scripts.
2)Client on URL requests + socets.
3)Client on Flash (Adobe flash professional 6 for example) = *.FLA file + AS3 files with classes.

Characters:
Do not know for now i think LoK characters but reworked a little. May be another world characters. But i want it be about Krystal - we are Legend of Krystal (a lot of Krystals ) forum by the way

Story:
No story line. I am bad in quests - so i will not plan to make it. But may be it will be possible to add it in future.

It is very hard and big complicated project. I do not think that it will be possible to make some thing like that alone for me (I am limited in time). May be it is no reason even to start it. So i just want to know is any body interested in it ?
Do some body want to try to play with some thing like that ? And help may be ?

What do you think ? Do you like the idea and etc..

If you have better ideas please tell me about them.

If you want you can chat with me there: (But this chat can only content 10-20 masseges maximum !)

I post this chat by not only this resources so i see messages from all over the internet Sorry if i will ask you what forum you are
I need it for better communication

[PlanetRaider]

your ideas in general are really good.
I like the concept of your game and i think there would be enough poeple to play.
My opinion on your points:
3) good idea:D (maybe it will be possible to lock the door of the room so you can be alone with someone if you dont wan to be interrupted and if the door is locked someone else could join the room as "spectator" or he is secretly observing them (like he is standing in front of the door and tries to hear what happens inside, but cant come in and talk)
6) what are the consequences if they dont bath, eat, etc...? Will it affect your look for other players?
7) Im not sure what size your rooms are but when you say move as in real life do you planing on builing a city and the "rooms" are houses or is your world just 1 big building with difrent rooms?
13) I think your right there will not be many players at the same time. If you have luck you will find 2 or 3 other players online
Characters: If it is possible i would like to see as many playable characters as possible if you can manage there are many possibilities (Anime/Manga Characters, Videogame Characters, Series Characters). I´d love to see like Sakura and Lara Croft in 1 room .
Story: In my opinion there should be some kind of story or quests to do or else it could get pretty boring. If you just can walk up to someone and start watching every sex scene noone will play long enough to get enough players on your server. My idea is to creat quest to earn money or something to buy ingame scenes.

Id love to test your game when it is finished and if there is something i can do to help you i would try my best to do so, because i really like your idea.
Good Luck:D

[Enkide]

Oh was thinking you were doing a non-hentai style game, could do like a dating sim idea too.

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

your ideas in general are really good.
I like the concept of your game and i think there would be enough poeple to play.
My opinion on your points:
3) good idea:D (maybe it will be possible to lock the door of the room so you can be alone with someone if you dont wan to be interrupted and if the door is locked someone else could join the room as "spectator" or he is secretly observing them (like he is standing in front of the door and tries to hear what happens inside, but cant come in and talk)
6) what are the consequences if they dont bath, eat, etc...? Will it affect your look for other players?
7) Im not sure what size your rooms are but when you say move as in real life do you planing on builing a city and the "rooms" are houses or is your world just 1 big building with difrent rooms?
13) I think your right there will not be many players at the same time. If you have luck you will find 2 or 3 other players online
Characters: If it is possible i would like to see as many playable characters as possible if you can manage there are many possibilities (Anime/Manga Characters, Videogame Characters, Series Characters). I´d love to see like Sakura and Lara Croft in 1 room .
Story: In my opinion there should be some kind of story or quests to do or else it could get pretty boring. If you just can walk up to someone and start watching every sex scene noone will play long enough to get enough players on your server. My idea is to creat quest to earn money or something to buy ingame scenes.

Id love to test your game when it is finished and if there is something i can do to help you i would try my best to do so, because i really like your idea.
Good Luck:D

3)We need some kind of temp locations then. Need to read how it have to work from program part.
6)They will look dirty if thay will not bath - but will not lose any parametrs (there are some communitys that like to be dirty as i know ). Can not do actions if they will not eat or sleep (lose some parametrs for example - like stamina). If it will be too low - they can not sex at all for example.
7)I plan to take Legend Of Krystal world - not big houses or buildings (open world like forest and etc) (there is only 1 house - but i plan to take it too) (may be to add more of them in future).
13)Many playabel characters - ok i understand. I will think about it - but i will need arts of them, in the same style like main characters will be. So i will need people who will helpe me with arts and animations.

I am very bad in making quests ... . I always play the game the way like: I need exp ? Ok i wil kill 100500 mobs - i will not read anything i will just kill mobs
Or i will make quest but i will not read what NPC say to me becouse it is to boooring
So i will need some body who will make quests - or stiry for that.

So it is hard for me to think about quests and story lines

Oh was thinking you were doing a non-hentai style game, could do like a dating sim idea too.

Nice ! To add ability to take other player on hands and give him presents or some thing for example. Not bad. In game chat for room will let them speak. May be some kind of dating with NPC.

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This time i decide to try to make it by the way like it have to be in real world. And like i do it on my work. Not randomly like i like to do . I will try to understand what we have and what we can do. Try to make technical task for my self, understand will it be possible to make - before starting the project if so - start / if not - even do not start.

ATTENTION:
I will need people who can create story line / quests / animations / arts for the game in flash FLA format. May be more programmers too.
This time i will not try to rush - I already plan this as long time going project. So creation will not be fast.

The creation will be seporated on the parts. First i plan to test my server. I fast made some simple game prototype. Now i need to understand will my server work normal on load, so i will need testers, that can enter the game (and do not play it - it is even not ready as game just one test idea i start but do not finish for now). Just be in game and move in the same time. I need to understand what bugs i have in server logic - load of the server and etc.
Then when i understand that server logick is correct and server do not falling from load i will start think about the task and game as prototype first.
When it will be done, i can post some moments that i will need - for example basic models / animations and etc - and ask people who is interesting to make more content based on this models. Or add new characters based on models.

Some games on the forum were made more then 2 years - i hope we can create game faster, i do not plan too big world. But the game is big - it have to have server logic, client side, animations, arts and etc.
It is just impossible to make all for me alone .

So i need assistance - from people who can do games / can animate / draw / design / make interesting quests = have there own ideas for the games and etc.

May be we can assemble our ideas and powers and make complicated big game together - not work on our own projects - and make some thing big.

I am not against any ideas - but i hope Krystal and its world will be in game (becouse of specific of the forum) - but if it will be a lot of people with other idea i can try to use it and make some thing that i am not planning to do for now.
I am not interested to work alone again. I am not self motivated enough So i want to try to work in the command. And if this command will be motivated - will have there own ideas, motivation, and etc - it will be very good.

Thats why i plan to start open source project - with technical task and etc. To seporate big game on small parts - to let everybody who wants to play with project, understand what we can and what we get - for not having problems in project discussion (not change main idea) in future.

If you do not like my idea - please write your own ideas about game - may be we will try to make some think different from what i write in first post.

For now i just want to understand what we have and what is possible or may be impossible to do.

I want to try to find some kind of command of developers with the same idea - to make some thing complicated in future. Not plan to try to make all alone again I already understand that i will not get anything good alone

How i look it like now:

[PlanetRaider]

Like i said before id love to test your servers and help you with any kind of gametestings or anything like that.
I would offer you my drawings but they are not on i high level too.^^
But maybe i can help with the quests or storyline.
If you can tell me the basic story, like the main character is lost in the city and needs to get richer to go back to her home, i could build up some miniquests within the story.
But therefor i need your basic idea what story it should be.

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

Thank you.

First i need to understand how much people can my server resist.

For that purpose i need people load and start this test flash at the same time.
It is only test flash - i remove all from it it is for test only. This flash will hardly load my server. If it will resist it - it will be okay. If it will drop down - then i will think about optimization.
Now we have to find people who can start the same time.

We have to find people and i turn on server - than i start gathering game statisticks and information about servers load.

We can discuss possible server start time in the chat in the first topic ! - For not to load LoKs forum.




Server status: OFFLINE Lets the testing begin. (It is just a test fast made server game do not worry i know that for now there are tons of bugs But i hope that i will fix them).

IF SERVER WILL FALL DOWN PLEASE WRITE ME !!! (If it will not be turned on).

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

The idea that bullets are anihilating each other may be was not the best =)

Finally i found player in the game and get first bug repost thank you

Server works perfect for now (I hope it will work normal in future). I hope that in MMO will not be any problems. (This project must load server much much more).

For now bugs of this game version is (players can not disconect (if they do there is immortal player on the map)).

It is fast made prototype - i think i will not work with it more - it made its work - it is testing my server.

So i think current algoritms for the server part will work good with a little changes.

As i can see now - the most loaded part is processor. (It is weak point) Memory and space are enough.

[dullman]

You see what i currently creating is highly moddable hentai game with 2d characters (as for worlds i also plan to make anime tilesets but i make make it either 2d or isometric 3d think something like civilization 5 with 3d map and 2d characters), and in this year i decided to move to vector art, but if i tried only reasonable engine for flash animation it (OpenFL) it had slowdown on having only 1 char on screen (with 10 it had 5 fps), so it wasn't option for me, there is always a flash but truthfully flash games aren't genre that are highly moddable since even with open source code the tool itself is pretty costly, so most gamers choose another game to mod that can be expanded with no additional costs. But then i decided to check unity asset store and it appeared the new asset to draw vector based files (.svg) although it's not support too much of svg specification but still if it's use basic methods it can draw a vector art, i bought it and although i only tested examples the art (Since i'm still not done to change my char template from flash format to svg format) still looking good with 10x scale, like true vector art, the asset allow to load svg files on run unlike the others which just transform vector art to texture(or any other preexisting format).
As for making MMO it's much better tool than flash game, int store it has even lua framework to add lua scripts to game. Also it's support online gaming, and if we load svg files on run, the player just need inkscape to modify characters/clothes/hairs etc. And since it's vector based art to recolor clothes player just need to change few values in file without touching any art, also since framework support changing shape in runtime, so i believe we could add to game something like tweening from flash (but programming based) and modify base templates in game (like characters get's pregnant or change shape of ears to elf ones) with sliders but truthfully it's not something that i made already, although i plan next it, after i'm done converting character templates and setting asset in project (so to be truthful the real challenge will be to check how characters can asset draw on screen without dropping in framerate but it will be after i apply simple morphing system in game). And one thing since framework allow to easily access paths data (shape data) we can basically also implement color picker for any part of body/clothes without needing to modify base svg files, also it becomes possible to write something like basic hair/breast physics for animation so the modders won't be needed to create it themselves.

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

I do not understand you a little ? Do you say that flash is not good for games like that ?
But i like flash so game will be on it (may be i will try starling or some libruarys like that) for better work. For now only read about it.

Or i did not understand you correct ?

[dullman]

I do not understand you a little ? Do you say that flash is not good for games like that ?
But i like flash so game will be on it (may be i will try starling or some libruarys like that) for better work. For now only read about it.

Or i did not understand you correct ?

What i said it's not that flash isn't good for flash like games, the problem lies when we try to have a more complicated game (although to be truthful it's still doable in flash) but the main problem for flash engine that i don't consider making a project in it is that isn't support moddable games at all, and from what i understand you wanted to make a moddable game (or i misunderstood you?) so the base thing for this is basically access for local files (which truthfully in last time i wanted to export graphic data to text files, and didn't found any way to save to local files in flash documentation) which flash as it web based don't have, as for game libraries from what i read most if not all game frameworks for flash are optimized to sprite artworks, so basically if you want vector based art in game you don't gain any advantages so i believe it's better to stay for clean flash (although there is always way of mixing sprite based art with vector based so in that case it should slightly help with development although you should be ready to rework few elements).
Also one thing in a case of flash you are basically depend on flash environment on player device, whilst in other engines most of them support exporting to multiple platforms (and many of them have flash based targets so if you want to play in browser you can always make, but also you can export to linux, max, windows or even phones which as for mmo is something important).

Also as for flash myself i consider it rather as a tool to develop artwork than engine that would help with creating games, so to be truthfully i only tried to make one game in it and whilst it helped me with visual side of game greatly, the programming side wasn't so great as we could expect from game engines (but i was working in clean flash so some frameworks might help with that).

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

To save in local files you can use: Shared object and FileReference for example. Unfortunatly i do not know another wat to. Or make some kind of screenshot and pars it - like QR code for example.

I was makeing some kind of algoritms to secter data - for example you can make crypting - than convert it to image where each pixel is data - then decrypt it the same way ... .

I am sorry it is hard to understand what you are wrighting - please write more simple - my english is very bad unfortunatly

But i am not sure for now will it work with the netwok - i will try to test it soon.

If now may be create some kind of string - that player can copy paste - and that will load data about character.

Now i only start to make object model for the character - so i will now try to test it. I am not really 100% shure that it will work so may be it will be a little ass made

[Ivan-Aedler]

Oh my!! I really have to access more!
After the conversion of MIM PUT from AS2 to AS3 (which took more than 5 months) I feel like this alien, leaving the cave after so many years!

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Man, I LOVE your idea!
I REALLY want to help you. I can work with code, and with art.
As I am kind of 'toxic' (in regard to code) due to the amount of work done with MIM PUT lately, so I can help you more with art. I love making art
I can also help you with ideas!

I like this new Krystal, but she is.... not so beatiful as the classic one (Playshapes) and the one we use currently (from Krystal AE) . I've made her with all poses (frontside, backside, side face, forward face...), remember? : )
If possible, please use a more sexy Krystal!

The rooms could be dwellings, tree houses, underwater houses, there are so many ideas! And I can make them for you : ) I have many models created for PUT, some were not used yet!
So the player can walk around the level, then knock the door (a button could appear when the player touches the door). If its being used, it would say 'ITS LOCKED', and if the players who are doing sex inside allows you to peep, the button will change to 'PEEP IN' instead

[OwnerOfSuccuby]

I like this Krystal model

But it can be added new models based on that - now it can combine Cortas characters and krystal i think it is very good model - but if you can make it better It will be very cool i will made soon code model for this Krystal and put its sources - if you can add new arts of Krystal parts based on what i already have it will be greate !!!