Area 52's Model Designs

[ronpepper]

While I tend to agree with Bussa's very precise and direct comments about the proportions, I wouldn't have said anything myself because I see a lot of talent and skill with the lineart -- too much to chalk it up to just plain lack of skill with perspective. Cartoon heads also have a tendency to be bigger -- although the "bone structure" on Krystal's face is lacking, as others have tried to point out as well. I would try to revise it, but it wouldn't be bad to leave it as-is, just keep things rolling and you guys should be good.

On the size of the sharpclaw heads: You have to be careful with that when you oversize the head of someone who is muscular, the two things being big kind of cancel each other out, after all. Also I mentioned the tricep before from that sharpclaw being too small. Well, it still is IMO, I would blow that thing up like a balloon.

[Liz]

i think krystal looks fine perfect from my point of view? nothings perfect?

[Malcanthet]

Alright these headshapes are for Katsuo, I sketched a couple others, and am working on Krystal's head again trying to make it model-worthy. I like the first one, the second one I feel is meh.

I'm trying to draw it to make it easy for the working jaw, afterall. Will work on the premade digital one already. It's just hard to work with a mouse for me.

[Malcanthet]

Added some more shading to the original face, though the mouth wont work model wise at the moment I dont think. I tried to edit it.

A little more play, with cheek ruff changes and mouth changes... I wanted to do the bone structure with shading, and only had mostly simple lineart.

[Malcanthet]

Yeah its been a week since I posted here - RL happened. This is for Katsu in case he misses me on AIM.

Silly heat exhaustion put me down, then i had an inner ear infection. Needless to say, it sucked.

[Malcanthet]

May as well upload this too so y'all can see some stuff.

[trunks2585]

Looking good, I don't know if we'll need all those seperate eyes or if one eye is enough, but those extra hands should be very helpful, namely for any rotations in the hand that let us see more of the palm/back of the hand.

[Malcanthet]

Mm, Katsu asked for numerous eye expressions. So I did some.

[Draket]

I suppose you want her looking shy and innocent. If this is the direction you want then I say good job with that. She certainly looks the part.

The face though. Weird.

[kuja]

U're a very good artist, I just got a few tips that may be useful:
The body looks a bit cambered, the head is too far forward.
The lower jaw seems to be a little shifted to the bottom, which makes the model face looks a little weird.

I hope I have helped

[Malcanthet]

Thanks Kuja. Ever since I drew her, I felt like I could've done much better. She is tilted forward, and we've been working in the background on the model, so it's taken a different look since the original art up there. I did have her forward...I wanted her to be walking and didn't think about what the flash model really needed. My next few models will be looking more appropriate, and in the background like I said, Katsu and I are hard at work with Krystal. -- I redid the head, above :/ I dunno how else to mess with it at the moment aside from completely redrawing it. Which I might, but I don't think Katsu wants to trace yet another model. I'll have to sketch her some more to get the right stuff -- just wait til I post the Twilight wolf girl!

I want to use a different head D: .. We already changed the arm and hands, and messed with that. Here's this... I only pasted it on *super* fast.

[kuja]

No problem. This one uv posted looks pretty good. Anyway, I almost forgot to say: Good work, keep it up.

[Malcanthet]

I'm fucking impatient, here's the WIP.

HEAVY WIP. I'm only satisfied with the Left one. The rest I'm just *working on* right now. I'm really not done with them

[MrBear]

So im guessing Malcan your doing the character models while Katsu will actually animate them? If thats so, then I love you because you just helped the project move forward

[Scapa]

I found the mouth the most 'disturbing' about the new krystal, but I really like the progress you're making (and at such a fast pace, aswell. Make sure you don't burnout early! ).

Though, I've got to say, you've really nailed the 'fox' mouth/nose on the latest image, the one on the left in particular.

Nice job. =)

[KaTsuO_O]

Ow, that looks amazing! I honestly didnt like the old one you made (may just be the pose) so this is great to see. The head on the left one looks great, i cant spot anything bad with it so if you could make a krystal head more similar to this but with a smaller muzzle, krystal hair style and wider ears rotated a bit outwards then i think it should turn out very well, also krystals head dont really got the same style as this and this looks good, especially how you made the muzzle.

[FuzzFace]

*pokes*
I think it's because it's the she wolf.

[trunks2585]

*Smacks Kuja for the trunks drawing*

On a serious note, it's good to see the krystal model is having some work still done on it, although I'm not sure I'd go with Kuja's recomendations for the face. The top left edit is ok, but the bottom left one would give her a huge jaw.

[Liz]

your always have to complain about something trunks? dont you... i love kuja's art work...

[trunks2585]

Technically I wasn't the one complaining about the original face being used, so no I'm not always bitching and unpleasable, I just get fucking sick of no one being able to agree on how these characters should look.

I will say I realize what Kuja did was show his full edit on the top side, and then right below it is just the red outline of the edit, so I was seeing things and there's no difference between the two. Non the less Mal and Katsu have already been working on shit in private so we'll see what they come up with, because even I don't know what they are doing to alter and make a better krystal model.